Masurao Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 hours ago, DeHammer said: Except I didn't say that. I said ALL he has done in this forum after years of playing is one single post that 'whines'. There's nothing wrong with people coming here and complaining about the game. I've done it myself. A positive contribution to the forum and the game would be him reporting his issues in the bug reports section and discussing the issues he's having. Despite that being the case, it was still quite relevant to your wording. I was also referencing the forum as a whole, as you'll notice. Take any glance around anywhere. You'll see it. 5 hours ago, SaulGoodman said: Um..Ark is the best game ever and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it, no matter how game breaking? (That should blend me in with these cultists. I’m so smart) Hey, now you've got it! You'll fit in juuust fine here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted March 2, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, GreenRoc said: Exactly. I havent bought Genisis, and I dont plan to. I like your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchantress24 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I lost 2 of my char in offline game because of the screen freeze after the game loading.Even its just offline game,I get really upset because I already leveling my char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click56 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Same it sucks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedoubleu Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Someone is monitoring server outage reports, but that's about it. Devs are busy finishing genesis which was as usual pushed to release in beta state, so don't expect any core-game fixes any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruvas78 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I read Astrophysics for People In A Hurry. Doesn't mean I'm much cope at Astrophysics though. If Wildcard were on top of things from the start..... I like to think of Ark like a large cruise ship, filled to the brink with amazing content that you'll just not see on any other ship. However the ship is full of holes and is letting in water. The owner is running backwards and forwards, slapping cheap cladding over the holes, but new ones appear at a rate that they just can't keep up with. It'll never sink though. All the customers who love the content are holding it up, regardless of whether their heads are under the water line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymric Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruvas78 said: I like to think of Ark like a large cruise ship, filled to the brink with amazing content that you'll just not see on any other ship. However the ship is full of holes and is letting in water. The owner is running backwards and forwards, slapping cheap cladding over the holes, but new ones appear at a rate that they just can't keep up with. I like it I know the developers work hard, but there are just so many time sucking annoying bug in the game. Like I just lost 2 stacks of kibbles because the timer didn't reset for transfering. But the snow owl taming was fun 20 min before that. The whole Ark experience just soo mixed. Like you mentioned there are no other ships. I'm just hoping for Population Zero and maybe Amazon's New World will create some competition for Ark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Crymric said: I know the developers work hard, but there are just so many time sucking annoying bug in the game. Like I just lost 2 stacks of kibbles because the timer didn't reset for transfering. But the snow owl taming was fun 20 min before that. The whole Ark experience just soo mixed. Like you mentioned there are no other ships. I'm just hoping for Population Zero and maybe Amazon's New World will create some competition for Ark. This gets back to what I said about the scope of the game. There's no other game like it simply because no other developers have been crazy enough to put themselves in a doomed position where they have an impossible task delivering such an expansive game with the sort of smooth experience players want. So Kudos to WC for trying, because otherwise you wouldn't be playing the game at all. Having said that, this was their first project like this, and there's no doubt if they went back to the drawing board... which they may do one day if the game continues to get the huge support it has... they could really make some huge improvements with all they've learned. So I'm going to continue to look at the bright side, and support the game where I can. There are a few other developers who also put themselves out there on other big projects, but approaching their projects differently. Example... Hello Games and their "No Man's Sky" which went from falling flat on its face thanks to Sony, to becoming the 'turn around story' of the gaming industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymric Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DeHammer said: This gets back to what I said about the scope of the game. There's no other game like it simply because no other developers have been crazy enough to put themselves in a doomed position where they have an impossible task delivering such an expansive game with the sort of smooth experience players want. So Kudos to WC for trying, because otherwise you wouldn't be playing the game at all. Having said that, this was their first project like this, and there's no doubt if they went back to the drawing board... which they may do one day if the game continues to get the huge support it has... they could really make some huge improvements with all they've learned. So I'm going to continue to look at the bright side, and support the game where I can. There are a few other developers who also put themselves out there on other big projects, but approaching their projects differently. Example... Hello Games and their "No Man's Sky" which went from falling flat on its face thanks to Sony, to becoming the 'turn around story' of the gaming industry. I do support the devs. I love this game. I invite my friends to play. (And than they die by raptors and glitches and just leave the game) But I do not support the lack of communication, the months old serious bugs and server problems. We are the consumers of the product what they made and we can criticize it. And if our critic is right (I dont know), they should react in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madjimrogers Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 This game is one of a kind and they have done some awesome things. Wildcard should open up a micro transaction store for skins so they can have a stream of revenue to fix the glitches in the game. no loot boxes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masurao Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 16 hours ago, DeHammer said: This gets back to what I said about the scope of the game. There's no other game like it simply because no other developers have been crazy enough to put themselves in a doomed position where they have an impossible task delivering such an expansive game with the sort of smooth experience players want. So Kudos to WC for trying, because otherwise you wouldn't be playing the game at all. Having said that, this was their first project like this, and there's no doubt if they went back to the drawing board... which they may do one day if the game continues to get the huge support it has... they could really make some huge improvements with all they've learned. So I'm going to continue to look at the bright side, and support the game where I can. There are a few other developers who also put themselves out there on other big projects, but approaching their projects differently. Example... Hello Games and their "No Man's Sky" which went from falling flat on its face thanks to Sony, to becoming the 'turn around story' of the gaming industry. Having said that, then I'm curious as to what would've happened if we'd turn back time and say...forgo the last two DLC, and instead focus on performance and vital bug fixes before even 'thinking' about moving forward. I ponder where we'd be at this point. The talk of profiteering would be much more easier if those other than fanatics were beaming cash forth, I believe. Also speaking of which. On 3/2/2020 at 3:59 PM, LEDminer said: You could also use common sense and realize that Wild Card is a profit making company and not a charity organization. Didn't they just raise and donate some $70k to charity not too long ago via the Extra Life event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted March 4, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted March 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Masurao said: Didn't they just raise and donate some $70k to charity not too long ago via the Extra Life event? They absolutely did, in fact it was more like $105k in the end. But still doesn't make them a charity organisation, which is what @LEDminer was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masurao Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, GP said: They absolutely did, in fact it was more like $105k in the end. But still doesn't make them a charity organisation, which is what @LEDminer was saying. By the very definition, that actually does make them both a for-profit and charity organization. Not sure if they could be considered a charitable for-profit entity though, since that was a one-time deal, but if one wants, they could still maintain the stance of them being charitable. Hence the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo96 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Oh well, i see alot of people blaming the devs for the broken game and you are not that wrong, i have 4k hrs in game (all official PVE) and had lots of bugs and lost time and dinos but even so i think this game is special and i will keep playing it because i like it. Indeed the game is a little buged and the new maps are bad at start but as someone who works as a programer myself ( not in gaming industry ) i can understand how hard is to fix something implemented a long time ago and sometimes not even by you, you have to understand that in big projects is about lots of people coding and sometimes you can't understand what someone else wrote. Ark is a pretty old game and i think most of the base code is old and not optimised, the cost of remaking the old code would be alot higher than you imagine ( think about companies that use specialised software on windows XP even now because it would take alot of resources to update it, most of the public administrations do this), if you think Wild card is a big company and it can afford to invest in you should think again, if they would have microtransactions or stuff like that than i would blame them too but so far i think the game is pretty fair. I don't say that you shouldn't complain about bugs and bad servers, if people wouldn't complain they wouldn't know what to try and fix but i think some people think that because they paid they should get a perfect game, sorry to disapoint you but nothing is perfect in this world. You should try to enjoy the game in your own way and if it isn't for you just move on, even writing here that you give up on the game and complaining is wasted time that could be used finding the new most awesome game for you. Sorry if i bored you but in the dev life sometimes it comes a time when you have nothing to do ( probably not for gaming ones tho ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldeHohenheim Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Teo96 said: Oh well, i see alot of people blaming the devs for the broken game and you are not that wrong, i have 4k hrs in game (all official PVE) and had lots of bugs and lost time and dinos but even so i think this game is special and i will keep playing it because i like it. Indeed the game is a little buged and the new maps are bad at start but as someone who works as a programer myself ( not in gaming industry ) i can understand how hard is to fix something implemented a long time ago and sometimes not even by you, you have to understand that in big projects is about lots of people coding and sometimes you can't understand what someone else wrote. Ark is a pretty old game and i think most of the base code is old and not optimised, the cost of remaking the old code would be alot higher than you imagine ( think about companies that use specialised software on windows XP even now because it would take alot of resources to update it, most of the public administrations do this), if you think Wild card is a big company and it can afford to invest in you should think again, if they would have microtransactions or stuff like that than i would blame them too but so far i think the game is pretty fair. I don't say that you shouldn't complain about bugs and bad servers, if people wouldn't complain they wouldn't know what to try and fix but i think some people think that because they paid they should get a perfect game, sorry to disapoint you but nothing is perfect in this world. You should try to enjoy the game in your own way and if it isn't for you just move on, even writing here that you give up on the game and complaining is wasted time that could be used finding the new most awesome game for you. Sorry if i bored you but in the dev life sometimes it comes a time when you have nothing to do ( probably not for gaming ones tho ). TL:DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted March 4, 2020 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Masurao said: By the very definition, that actually does make them both a for-profit and charity organization No. It doesn't. Words matter. Donating to a charity makes them "charitable". They are not, in fact, a charity organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, Joebl0w13 said: No. It doesn't. Words matter. Donating to a charity makes them "charitable". They are not, in fact, a charity organization. Agreed. Otherwise nearly every sizeable business in the world would be a charity since they nearly all donate to charity for purposes of tax benefits and 'optics'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masurao Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said: No. It doesn't. Words matter. Donating to a charity makes them "charitable". They are not, in fact, a charity organization. They do, don't they? Definitions are just as tantamount. 3 hours ago, DeHammer said: Agreed. Otherwise nearly every sizeable business in the world would be a charity since they nearly all donate to charity for purposes of tax benefits and 'optics'. Oh..? 4 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said: No. It doesn't. Words matter. Donating to a charity makes them "charitable". 3 hours ago, DeHammer said: since they nearly all donate to charity for purposes of tax benefits No intent to debate the adamant, but I'll leave these to mull over. Every entity has its reasons. Mislabeling can have annoying financial consequences, but correctly done it allows for lower taxable revenue. You're free to believe whichever. I'm just stating that for the instance, they were. Whoever heard of a game developer claiming a charity entity any ways? Wait for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 NPCube is the worst developer ever. WC and NPCube do have one thing in common though.... Snailgames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udam Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, GrumpyBear said: NPCube is the worst developer ever. WC and NPCube do have one thing in common though.... Snailgames. DU DU DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redz8734 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 http://www.snail.com/en/ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelancerKnux Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Masurao said: They do, don't they? Definitions are just as tantamount. Oh..? No intent to debate the adamant, but I'll leave these to mull over. Every entity has its reasons. Mislabeling can have annoying financial consequences, but correctly done it allows for lower taxable revenue. You're free to believe whichever. I'm just stating that for the instance, they were. Whoever heard of a game developer claiming a charity entity any ways? Wait for it. Gotta love when a person is wrong but they still take the superior attitude that they are infallible, Your friends have must really enjoy talking with you. I can understand being frustrated at WC bout the bugs in game but seriously they put a lot of effort into this game. If 50% of the devs out there supported their games to the same extent the industry would be in a much better place right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldeHohenheim Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 This thread. Because i just got word that we'd be waiting 6 weeks to get our tekgrams restored. Glad I didnt buy Genesis. Absolute poope company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Masurao said: They do, don't they? Definitions are just as tantamount. Oh..? No intent to debate the adamant, but I'll leave these to mull over. Every entity has its reasons. Mislabeling can have annoying financial consequences, but correctly done it allows for lower taxable revenue. You're free to believe whichever. I'm just stating that for the instance, they were. Whoever heard of a game developer claiming a charity entity any ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masurao Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, FreelancerKnux said: Gotta love when a person is wrong but they still take the superior attitude that they are infallible, Your friends have must really enjoy talking with you. Sure thing, I must be completely wrong then. I don't take myself seriously enough for that, but apparently you seem to think so. My friends seem to think I'm okay I suppose, though they barely take me seriously either. Insert cliche passive-aggressively condescending rebuttal that I don't care to think of right now. Merely observing the noticed trend annnd seeing De's response, I have my answer. You can return to your Knightly duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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