randomperson363 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Why are there not more weapons in ark? So currently these are the weapons in ark (this list doesn’t include explosives or tek, and it also doesn’t include basic harvesting tools) Melee - spear - pike - sword - club - electric prod - whip - chainsaw - lance ( I believe it’s useless prove me wrong ) Ranged Weapons - slingshot - bola - bow - crossbow - compound bow - boomerang Firearms - Harpoon gun - simple pistol - fabricated pistol - longneck rifle - shotgun - pump action shotgun - assault rifle (needs a buff) - fabricated sniper rifle - flamethrower Attachments - silencer - flashlight - scope - holo scope - laser I think ark needs to add a more expansive weapon system. I believe adding more Melee weapons would be interesting and could change some of the early game combat, and bring back melee for late game players. Now I personally have no idea what melee weapons ark could add. I do have some ideas for fire arms though I think stocks and foregrips could improve the assault rifle. I also think that light machine guns and multiple assault rifles, and maybe even an sub machine gun would be a good addition to the game. Also side note what about grenade launchers. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I don't think this would be useful for balancing weapon damage. Now there could be weapon skins. 2 or 3 visual variations for each weapon could me interesting but would increase the assets and size of the game and mostly just be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oieru Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Some new weapons are coming to Genesis, like the shoulder mounted tek cannon/rifle/sniper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 There are a ton of medieval weapons that could be added, but I'm not sure Ark's design would support the new weapons. Like, I'm not sure how much more different they'd be than what already exists. For starters, a battleaxe would be a nice addition. Slower and stronger than the sword, perhaps more effective against armor. Metal mace/morningstar for some real anti-armor fun, perhaps also useful to knock something out but would do significantly more damage than the club. A throwing axe would be cool, too. Alternatively, the option to throw the hatchet like the spear. It's too bad the metal spear is called a pike, otherwise they could actually add wood and metal pikes to the game. You should be able to wield the shield with a melee weapon, too. And there should be wooden shields as well as metal. With this implemented you could incorporate 2h weapons instead of limiting the survivor to only 1 hand. You could rename the Sword to Machete and then make an actual sword like a longsword or arming sword (knight sword). You could add skins too, like katana, saber, scimitar, falchion, etc. You could add knives, not sure why. Modern weapons look fine. LMGs and SMGs would add variety, but they're also a little extra. Assault rifle in a game like Ark is likely basically the same. I guess given the above melee weapons, LMGs and SMGs fit in fine. They could add heavy crossbow that requires a tool to reload such as a cranequin or windlass. This would be much more powerful but require stationary reloading. Might be worthless compared to the regular crossbow and rifle. Glaives would be cool. It'd be like a pike except it would slash like a sword instead of pierce like the spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I think you forgot lance, slingshot, chainsaw, and all the other resource harvesting tools. Anything can be a weapon. Plus ark is a dino game, tons of dinos can be used as weapons. Plus all the stationary weapons. Most of the human weiled weapons are generic which I think is fine, they cover all the basics. Maybe a battleaxe would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Juggernaut said: I think you forgot lance, slingshot, chainsaw, and all the other resource harvesting tools. Anything can be a weapon. Plus ark is a dino game, tons of dinos can be used as weapons. Good point. All/most of the dinos have unique attacks, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson363 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Aylana314159 said: I don't think this would be useful for balancing weapon damage. Now there could be weapon skins. 2 or 3 visual variations for each weapon could me interesting but would increase the assets and size of the game and mostly just be useless. I think that weapons are already unbalanced with the assault rifle being close to useless as it’s costs too much to fire and the way the gun’s recoil works, it becomes less useful. I don’t think it would break balancing if guns are made correctly. I did forget slingshot and chainsaw, but the rest of the harvest tools I didn’t include because they are not meant to be used as weapons and aren’t better than weapons in most cases, and I didn’t include lance because you have to be riding a Dino to use it (also side note I’ve never seen the lance used or even being remotely viable on a server) I do agree that more weapon skins would be cool like skins for fabricated sniper and pump shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 16 hours ago, randomperson363 said: I think that weapons are already unbalanced with the assault rifle being close to useless as it’s costs too much to fire and the way the gun’s recoil works, it becomes less useful. I don’t think it would break balancing if guns are made correctly. I did forget slingshot and chainsaw, but the rest of the harvest tools I didn’t include because they are not meant to be used as weapons and aren’t better than weapons in most cases, and I didn’t include lance because you have to be riding a Dino to use it (also side note I’ve never seen the lance used or even being remotely viable on a server) I do agree that more weapon skins would be cool like skins for fabricated sniper and pump shotgun. That doesn't sound like imbalance to me, it sounds like context. Assault rifle is good, it's just resource intensive meaning it's not practical. The weapons aren't balanced by design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson363 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Even if you had infinite materials it’s still bad also because weapons aren’t balance that why I suggest lmg cost lots of recourses and so would the smg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharneth Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, randomperson363 said: Even if you had infinite materials it’s still bad also because weapons aren’t balance that why I suggest lmg cost lots of recourses and so would the smg Your thread never discussed balancing anything, it just suggested that there could be more weapons. This game doesn't want balanced weapons, that would make little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeBomb2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 the lance is used to knock people off there mounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 who doesn't love wearing the clown mask and chasing people on the beach with the chainsaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, TimeBomb2003 said: the lance is used to knock people off there mounts And...? Forcibly dismounting someone is still an attack, and a lance is still a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeBomb2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, DeHammer said: And...? Forcibly dismounting someone is still an attack, and a lance is still a weapon. I know, the dude said it was useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboundGem Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Juggernaut said: who doesn't love wearing the clown mask and chasing people on the beach with the chainsaw? You just gave me an idea I haven't tried yet! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson363 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Kharneth said: Your thread never discussed balancing anything, it just suggested that there could be more weapons. This game doesn't want balanced weapons, that would make little sense. I understand that game doesn’t use balanced weapons but aylana brought that point up and I agree that some weapons that cost more materials and are harder to get are better but some weapons are just complete trash as in the assault rifle and lance. (Also side note I did add the chainsaw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 1:38 PM, randomperson363 said: I didn’t include lance because you have to be riding a Dino to use it (also side note I’ve never seen the lance used or even being remotely viable on a server)... Wow, you are completely underestimating the lance man. You do not have to be riding a dino in order to use a lance. In fact, you can't be riding a dino when you are using it to its fullest potential. They are, hands down, the very, VERY best weapon drop to use in an industrial grinder. You get so much freaking metal from an ascendant lance. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboundGem Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, DeHammer said: Wow, you are completely underestimating the lance man. You do not have to be riding a dino in order to use a lance. In fact, you can't be riding a dino when you are using it to its fullest potential. They are, hands down, the very, VERY best weapon drop to use in an industrial grinder. You get so much freaking metal from an ascendant lance. ? That's what I use them for. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson363 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Ok ok guys yes they are good in a ginder but not as a pvp weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 They need to add the TEK Can Opener in Genesis Part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameless Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Demerus said: They need to add the TEK Can Opener in Genesis Part 2. Does that mean we have tek cans ?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 12:21 PM, randomperson363 said: Why are there not more weapons in ark? So currently these are the weapons in ark (this list doesn’t include explosives or tek, and it also doesn’t include basic harvesting tools) Melee - spear - pike - sword - club - electric prod - whip - chainsaw - lance ( I believe it’s useless prove me wrong ) Ranged Weapons - slingshot - bola - bow - crossbow - compound bow - boomerang Firearms - Harpoon gun - simple pistol - fabricated pistol - longneck rifle - shotgun - pump action shotgun - assault rifle (needs a buff) - fabricated sniper rifle - flamethrower Attachments - silencer - flashlight - scope - holo scope - laser I think ark needs to add a more expansive weapon system. I believe adding more Melee weapons would be interesting and could change some of the early game combat, and bring back melee for late game players. Now I personally have no idea what melee weapons ark could add. I do have some ideas for fire arms though I think stocks and foregrips could improve the assault rifle. I also think that light machine guns and multiple assault rifles, and maybe even an sub machine gun would be a good addition to the game. Also side note what about grenade launchers. What do you guys think? U forgot the spyglass...indestructible weapon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, nameless said: Does that mean we have tek cans ?!?! Cans to store Element Kibble to feed the Ferox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson363 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Ok here is an idea a tek spyglass but you can put a can opener attachment on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udam Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 12:36 PM, Aylana314159 said: I don't think this would be useful for balancing weapon damage. Now there could be weapon skins. 2 or 3 visual variations for each weapon could me interesting but would increase the assets and size of the game and mostly just be useless. maybe some Weapons could get a TLC Simple pistol can auto fire when not Aiming down sight (like the revolvers in RDR) Double barrel can shoot both shots if you hold the trigger, and can uses simple rifle Rounds as a Slug (kinda like thoses Boar rifles) Longneck: goes through 50% of armor Advance Pistol has more ammo, can be set to burst fire, and does a tad bit more damage AR: when you shoot a target continuously it does more and more damage (does more damage if you continue to fire at the same target) pump Shotgun; ReSize in third Person Sniper: can take off scope, and add Holo scope, or Iron sights, and does 25% armor damage now maybe there could be a few new guns Bolt action rifle: holds 8 shots, looks kinda like a Lee Enfield, uses simple rifle rounds, more reliable, and easy to mass produces (when primitive) but does not have the range and damage as a longneck SMG: holds 85 rounds, looks like a modern tomson, Sprays bullets, uses advance pistol bullets so very cheap, not good at all for range! and Grenade launcher: its like a tek one but it only has 3 shots, and is pump action and does not have the range and diversity of ammo (Gas, smoke, grenade, Cluster) And for skins it could be Engraved Forged weapons: makes you're guns you make in the smithy look fancy and engraved Classic Pistol Skin: Looks like a 1911 but old Tactical Pistol skin: looks like a M9 Classic AR skin: Looks like a AK Savage AR skin: looks like a M4A1 but right and many parts missing and hide wrapped around it Classic Shotgun skin: looks like a Spas 12 Hunters shotgun skin: looks like a Hunting shotgun with wood, hide and metal, (pump) Classic SMG skin: looks like a Tomson with wood Warlord SMG SKIN: Looks like a PPSH-41 Makeshift Bolt Action rifle skin: looks like a Very makeshift Rifle Marksman Sniper skin: looks like a M14 Classic Sniper: looks like a SVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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