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With Element supposedly destroyed in Extinction

So in the final cut scene unless I'm mistaken all the element veins were destroyed on Earth when the Ark's came done. Do you all think that means there will be a new way of powering Tek items or possibly an all new form of Tek. Or like in real life will we just continue using Element, the thing that caused all this in the first place, still to power Tek?

 

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I'm a little confused by that as well, it's assumed we're going to the big show at this point, ie Earth. However, i would imagine even with the element veins destroyed, you are still gonna find remnants of element, or maybe they'll spin a tale of how the element left after the fall of the Arks has been altered and is no longer a threat to the planet, but who knows. lol

 

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On 12/3/2019 at 8:40 PM, Andrewrayven said:

Genesis being another simulation would make no sense from a story perspective, we already know what happened to earth and stopped it in Extinction. What would be the point of putting the survivors in another simulation, especially considering without the implant supposedly we can't resurrect anymore?

Remember, we are of another being without an implant.

 

Plus, even i have no idea where genesis is supposed to head towards, a simulation of the past? Or what.

 

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Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s.

But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation.

For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused  mating between family members aka full family porn.

For that they degenerated loosing health,  become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities

Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element..

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On 12/16/2019 at 2:40 PM, Noa said:

Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s.

But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation.

For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused  mating between family members aka full family porn.

For that they degenerated loosing health,  become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities

Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element..

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They told us already that Genesis does not take place after the events of Extinction. It takes place at some point in time prior to Extinction. The first part of Genesis is a simulation that the survivor gets put into, so none of it is actually "real". I'm not sure if Genesis part 2 will be a simulation, but I am assuming it is not. They are including all of the weird unique creatures in this expansion that they couldn't normally include in other expansions (like space whales) because it is a simulation and reality can be whatever they want it to be because of that reason. So element can exist here, since it is before Extinction and because it is a simulation.

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On 12/16/2019 at 7:40 PM, Noa said:

Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s.

But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation.

For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused  mating between family members aka full family porn.

For that they degenerated loosing health,  become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities

Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element..

Actually, someone changed Earth to PvE mode and spammed pillars everywhere... Humanity had to move to the Arks in order to build new homes.

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lol the final thing is the ending of the game the last map after geneis cause yes it will have element on it so will the last one if you seen the end map of ark you will understand why there is element again on the last map where getting

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And if anyone actually paid attention to what Helena was saying, she said "in time" the element will be filtered out by the arks.  That doesn't mean it's immediately gone, it means after whatever currently undefined period of time, it'll all be gone.  That could be next thursday before the football game, or three hours after the next 1700 millenia pass.  Vaugeness FTW :/

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On 12/31/2019 at 8:37 PM, RaidenSola said:

And if anyone actually paid attention to what Helena was saying, she said "in time" the element will be filtered out by the arks.  That doesn't mean it's immediately gone, it means after whatever currently undefined period of time, it'll all be gone.  That could be next thursday before the football game, or three hours after the next 1700 millenia pass.  Vaugeness FTW :/

She say also "will be filtered out by the arks"

Dangerous stance that could mean that all ark maps before extinction will be wiped out of tek tehnology including armor, weapons and structures (entire bases).

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element cannot be destroyed. when element is consumed or used it is a stable version of element and is transformed upon use. this process seeds raw element into the air which is usually harmless because it settles and grows into new element, this is how humanity harnessed it before the war.  once humanity started turning element fueled weapons on itself the amount of free element in the air, element that was being seeded back into the environment exceeded humanities ability to harvest and.or clean it up. this resulted in the large scale corrupted element and extinction.  the destruction of corrupted element does not preclude humanity reharnessing it into a stable form.  part of what made element amazing was that it was lossless. all element spent ended up back in the environment.

source: santiago's explorer notes.

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I didn't catch that part in the notes, that sort of changes somethings about element. But it doesn't explain in the trailer that we no longer have the implant, an implant that stored our experiences and downloaded them into the new body if we died. Without it I'm wondering how they will explain respawning or if they will simply say nothing about it like other games. I'm still not sure about the new simulation aspect, they did a fantastic job with the story in the first three expansions, in my opinion some of the most thought out lore in a game. Returning to another simulation rather than advancing things in a current time arch seems cheap for them.

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On 11/29/2019 at 11:33 AM, Andrewrayven said:

With Element supposedly destroyed in Extinction

So in the final cut scene unless I'm mistaken all the element veins were destroyed on Earth when the Ark's came done. Do you all think that means there will be a new way of powering Tek items or possibly an all new form of Tek. Or like in real life will we just continue using Element, the thing that caused all this in the first place, still to power Tek?

 

Spoiler Alerts!!!!

I would like to point out two things to you. First, as a few other people have mentioned, all the element wasn't instantly destroyed. You can think of it more as if it were purified. More than likely none of the element was destroyed but that the corruption was purified into the cleaner blue form. The second thing is that when the Earth sent the signal to call the Arks, or seeds, back to the Planet there is one very significant problem. Aberation is still a malfunctioning Ark full of very pure element. That is basically our teaser for the next point in the story of Ark after the events of Extinction. For anyone who did not know, Extinction is actually the first point in Ark where your survivor becomes a part of the story. No previous survivor had "saved the earth."

On 12/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Andrewrayven said:

Genesis being another simulation would make no sense from a story perspective, we already know what happened to earth and stopped it in Extinction. What would be the point of putting the survivors in another simulation, especially considering without the implant supposedly we can't resurrect anymore?

The point is this. Genesis is a simulated Ark. It exists almost in the same manner as any of the other arks exists. When a survivor defeats the overseer of an Ark, they get to chose which Ark to go to next. You can simply consider yourself to have chosen to go to the Genesis Ark. As a side note, no Ark offers the choice to go to Earth, as that was a choice that was given to players through the efforts of the humans who destroyed the Aberation Ark and also created the portal to leave that Ark. As others have mentioned Genesis is not a continuation of the story after Extinction, but will probably offer many interesting facts or unknown information to the many unanswered questions that have been left thus far.

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On 1/10/2020 at 2:14 PM, Ownz1nR34LT1M3 said:

when the Earth sent the signal to call the Arks, or seeds, back to the Planet there is one very significant problem. Aberation is still a malfunctioning Ark full of very pure element. That is basically our teaser for the next point in the story of Ark after the events of Extinction.

I was going to point this one out, people seem to forget about it, a fully corrupted ark landing in afterwards, the arks being meant to spread and cleanse the planet after llanding, the corrupted area would keep a area corrupted, just doing what it was programmed to do, thus, a area with element always.

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