Andrewrayven Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 With Element supposedly destroyed in Extinction So in the final cut scene unless I'm mistaken all the element veins were destroyed on Earth when the Ark's came done. Do you all think that means there will be a new way of powering Tek items or possibly an all new form of Tek. Or like in real life will we just continue using Element, the thing that caused all this in the first place, still to power Tek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeTea Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Genesis is a simulation. It doesn't completely continue from the old season pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio4201 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I'm a little confused by that as well, it's assumed we're going to the big show at this point, ie Earth. However, i would imagine even with the element veins destroyed, you are still gonna find remnants of element, or maybe they'll spin a tale of how the element left after the fall of the Arks has been altered and is no longer a threat to the planet, but who knows. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewrayven Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Genesis being another simulation would make no sense from a story perspective, we already know what happened to earth and stopped it in Extinction. What would be the point of putting the survivors in another simulation, especially considering without the implant supposedly we can't resurrect anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaculity Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 8:40 PM, Andrewrayven said: Genesis being another simulation would make no sense from a story perspective, we already know what happened to earth and stopped it in Extinction. What would be the point of putting the survivors in another simulation, especially considering without the implant supposedly we can't resurrect anymore? Remember, we are of another being without an implant. Plus, even i have no idea where genesis is supposed to head towards, a simulation of the past? Or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 since genesis will be a simulation, its not real so the implant being removed doesn't matter anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddyFCT Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 There are still creatures that evolved with the element, but not depended on it. Also with all the tek like AI we could maybe see some evil/bad AI that is working against Helena for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noa Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s. But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation. For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused mating between family members aka full family porn. For that they degenerated loosing health, become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewrayven Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 2:40 PM, Noa said: Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s. But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation. For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused mating between family members aka full family porn. For that they degenerated loosing health, become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element.. Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio4201 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Update: I think I read somewhere there's gonna be "matured element" obtainable, probably by the new mining drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divisd1 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 They told us already that Genesis does not take place after the events of Extinction. It takes place at some point in time prior to Extinction. The first part of Genesis is a simulation that the survivor gets put into, so none of it is actually "real". I'm not sure if Genesis part 2 will be a simulation, but I am assuming it is not. They are including all of the weird unique creatures in this expansion that they couldn't normally include in other expansions (like space whales) because it is a simulation and reality can be whatever they want it to be because of that reason. So element can exist here, since it is before Extinction and because it is a simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tateybread79 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 7:40 PM, Noa said: Don't worry, is not the element to cause extinction of human s. But fact that their entire civilization was based in disability to build near enemy foundation. For that they could build cites only with family members. That caused mating between family members aka full family porn. For that they degenerated loosing health, become less resistant on various sickness up to a point to lose reproductive abilities Helena didn't want to write soo bad of humans and their "to close to enemy foundation" so she invented element.. Actually, someone changed Earth to PvE mode and spammed pillars everywhere... Humanity had to move to the Arks in order to build new homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyhobo Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 lol the final thing is the ending of the game the last map after geneis cause yes it will have element on it so will the last one if you seen the end map of ark you will understand why there is element again on the last map where getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidenSola Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 And if anyone actually paid attention to what Helena was saying, she said "in time" the element will be filtered out by the arks. That doesn't mean it's immediately gone, it means after whatever currently undefined period of time, it'll all be gone. That could be next thursday before the football game, or three hours after the next 1700 millenia pass. Vaugeness FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleiva Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 They will add mining drill what is saying that "This weapon/tool can also harvest the matured Element Node" so i think on new map will be element farm like on extinction but another system.https://ark.gamepedia.com/Mining_Drill_(Genesis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noa Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 8:37 PM, RaidenSola said: And if anyone actually paid attention to what Helena was saying, she said "in time" the element will be filtered out by the arks. That doesn't mean it's immediately gone, it means after whatever currently undefined period of time, it'll all be gone. That could be next thursday before the football game, or three hours after the next 1700 millenia pass. Vaugeness FTW She say also "will be filtered out by the arks" Dangerous stance that could mean that all ark maps before extinction will be wiped out of tek tehnology including armor, weapons and structures (entire bases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaprosuchus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 element cannot be destroyed. when element is consumed or used it is a stable version of element and is transformed upon use. this process seeds raw element into the air which is usually harmless because it settles and grows into new element, this is how humanity harnessed it before the war. once humanity started turning element fueled weapons on itself the amount of free element in the air, element that was being seeded back into the environment exceeded humanities ability to harvest and.or clean it up. this resulted in the large scale corrupted element and extinction. the destruction of corrupted element does not preclude humanity reharnessing it into a stable form. part of what made element amazing was that it was lossless. all element spent ended up back in the environment. source: santiago's explorer notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewrayven Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 I didn't catch that part in the notes, that sort of changes somethings about element. But it doesn't explain in the trailer that we no longer have the implant, an implant that stored our experiences and downloaded them into the new body if we died. Without it I'm wondering how they will explain respawning or if they will simply say nothing about it like other games. I'm still not sure about the new simulation aspect, they did a fantastic job with the story in the first three expansions, in my opinion some of the most thought out lore in a game. Returning to another simulation rather than advancing things in a current time arch seems cheap for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownz1nR34LT1M3 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 11/29/2019 at 11:33 AM, Andrewrayven said: With Element supposedly destroyed in Extinction So in the final cut scene unless I'm mistaken all the element veins were destroyed on Earth when the Ark's came done. Do you all think that means there will be a new way of powering Tek items or possibly an all new form of Tek. Or like in real life will we just continue using Element, the thing that caused all this in the first place, still to power Tek? Spoiler Alerts!!!! I would like to point out two things to you. First, as a few other people have mentioned, all the element wasn't instantly destroyed. You can think of it more as if it were purified. More than likely none of the element was destroyed but that the corruption was purified into the cleaner blue form. The second thing is that when the Earth sent the signal to call the Arks, or seeds, back to the Planet there is one very significant problem. Aberation is still a malfunctioning Ark full of very pure element. That is basically our teaser for the next point in the story of Ark after the events of Extinction. For anyone who did not know, Extinction is actually the first point in Ark where your survivor becomes a part of the story. No previous survivor had "saved the earth." On 12/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Andrewrayven said: Genesis being another simulation would make no sense from a story perspective, we already know what happened to earth and stopped it in Extinction. What would be the point of putting the survivors in another simulation, especially considering without the implant supposedly we can't resurrect anymore? The point is this. Genesis is a simulated Ark. It exists almost in the same manner as any of the other arks exists. When a survivor defeats the overseer of an Ark, they get to chose which Ark to go to next. You can simply consider yourself to have chosen to go to the Genesis Ark. As a side note, no Ark offers the choice to go to Earth, as that was a choice that was given to players through the efforts of the humans who destroyed the Aberation Ark and also created the portal to leave that Ark. As others have mentioned Genesis is not a continuation of the story after Extinction, but will probably offer many interesting facts or unknown information to the many unanswered questions that have been left thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malxao Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Smh. Genesis comes before Extinction. Why do you think it's called "Genesis?" Just look at it's order on the list of DLCs in the Host/Local menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 2:14 PM, Ownz1nR34LT1M3 said: when the Earth sent the signal to call the Arks, or seeds, back to the Planet there is one very significant problem. Aberation is still a malfunctioning Ark full of very pure element. That is basically our teaser for the next point in the story of Ark after the events of Extinction. I was going to point this one out, people seem to forget about it, a fully corrupted ark landing in afterwards, the arks being meant to spread and cleanse the planet after llanding, the corrupted area would keep a area corrupted, just doing what it was programmed to do, thus, a area with element always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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