WarpSpasm Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I quoted from your post as I was to lazy to scroll up, just another glitch I guess. Didn't do it on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, WarpSpasm said: I quoted from your post as I was to lazy to scroll up, just another glitch I guess. Didn't do it on purpose. yeah i figured it was a mistake, was just letting you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMP Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 hours ago, caleb68 said: Bitter? nah. Halloween use to be one of my favorite holidays, especially back when people still went all out and decorated their yards for the kids, loved going around the neighborhoods and seeing all the spooky decorations, now the only spooky holiday decorations for Halloween I ever see is the little bit some businesses put out, or in games. Didn't mean bitter about this issue specifically, just about the collective group of stuff that annoys you. Don't take it the wrong way, I enjoy watching you get fired up about stuff, even if I don't always agree with you. I was like that too, before I ran out of energy and just lowered my expectations lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, caleb68 said: Using that train of thinking is the same as saying that when people could cryopod dinos with 450+ levels to keep them on server restarts wasn't being a exploits either. It doesn't matter what your intentions were, its still a exploit. Well thats not an exploit either. Those dinos will stay only in cryopods. If you try to uncryo them they go poof instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Piffguru said: I still have my tombstones n stuff in my cooking pot, but im on console and it seems that the rates went down to standard evo rates but the tree colors and spooky piles are still turned on. Figured it was while they figure out how to get people their emotes back or something. Also I still have holiday items in a vault from last year lol. Thats because turning off the event items requires a patch and takes longer on consoles due certification. Rates however can be turned off on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, SMP said: Didn't mean bitter about this issue specifically, just about the collective group of stuff that annoys you. Don't take it the wrong way, I enjoy watching you get fired up about stuff, even if I don't always agree with you. I was like that too, before I ran out of energy and just lowered my expectations lol yeah im not afraid to speak my mind thats for sure. I do enjoy the game but they do stuff like this where things just get deleted, its rather annoying to say the least. Just now, Luewen said: Well thats not an exploit either. Those dinos will stay only in cryopods. If you try to uncryo them they go poof instantly. thats before wildcard fixed it, you could pod them, and keep the stats for server restarts, same with saddles that were above the maxium, pod the dino wait for server restart unpod and you'd still have the saddle. It was a example of how using something to avoid getting a item deleted that was meant to be deleted is considered a exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luewen Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, caleb68 said: yeah im not afraid to speak my mind thats for sure. I do enjoy the game but they do stuff like this where things just get deleted, its rather annoying to say the least. thats before wildcard fixed it, you could pod them, and keep the stats for server restarts, same with saddles that were above the maxium, pod the dino wait for server restart unpod and you'd still have the saddle. It was a example of how using something to avoid getting a item deleted that was meant to be deleted is considered a exploit. Saddles still stay above cap when podded with dinos. Dinos have gone poof above 450 when uncryod for a looong time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Luewen said: Saddles still stay above cap when podded with dinos. Dinos have gone poof above 450 when uncryod for a looong time now. like I said, it was a example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico86 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 2:50 PM, Piffguru said: I still have my tombstones n stuff in my cooking pot, but im on console and it seems that the rates went down to standard evo rates but the tree colors and spooky piles are still turned on. Figured it was while they figure out how to get people their emotes back or something. Also I still have holiday items in a vault from last year lol. You are lucky, all mine vanished, the strange thing was it vanished on the day the event was 1st meant to finish, but i was still able to collect everything again, Same thing happened over the winter event, i even placed everything and it all went when the event finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piffguru Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Rico86 said: You are lucky, all mine vanished, the strange thing was it vanished on the day the event was 1st meant to finish, but i was still able to collect everything again, Same thing happened over the winter event, i even placed everything and it all went when the event finished. Yea they eventually turned off the event completely on xbox and all our stuff disappeared also. But I guess they didnt do a dino wipe cause I found a few skeletal dinos after and got some bones from them lol but I dont plan on holding them till next event so I just dropped them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 1:34 AM, caleb68 said: Using that train of thinking is the same as saying that when people could cryopod dinos with 450+ levels to keep them on server restarts wasn't being a exploits either. It doesn't matter what your intentions were, its still a exploit. Using game mechanics as intended is not an exploit. Period. An exploit involves using game mechanics in a way that isn't intended. Uploading stuff into an obi or transmitter temporarily removes the items from the map; that's all intended functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 10:25 AM, DeHammer said: Using game mechanics as intended is not an exploit. Period. An exploit involves using game mechanics in a way that isn't intended. Uploading stuff into an obi or transmitter temporarily removes the items from the map; that's all intended functionality. using a game mechanic that isn't meant to be used in such a manor to avoid getting items deleted that should have been deleted is an exploit regardless of how you try to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 4:25 PM, caleb68 said: using a game mechanic that isn't meant to be used in such a manor to avoid getting items deleted that should have been deleted is an exploit regardless of how you try to justify it. No. Putting items into an obi to remove them from the map is exactly what the obi and transmitter are intended for. Period.The devs could easily enforce whatever limitations they wanted. For instance not being able to transfer trophy items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 8:21 PM, DeHammer said: No. Putting items into an obi to remove them from the map is exactly what the obi and transmitter are intended for. Period.The devs could easily enforce whatever limitations they wanted. For instance not being able to transfer trophy items. still trying to justify it eh? so using your logic duping via a obelisk is perfectly legit too because, game mechanics and wildcard could easily stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted November 19, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, caleb68 said: still trying to justify it eh? so using your logic duping via a obelisk is perfectly legit too because, game mechanics and wildcard could easily stop it. Comparing duping (which is an unfair competitive advantage) to decorative items (that provide no competitive advantage whatsoever) is like comparing apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 12 hours ago, GP said: Comparing duping (which is an unfair competitive advantage) to decorative items (that provide no competitive advantage whatsoever) is like comparing apples and oranges. im comparing 'game mechanics' in 'creating / keeping' items that weren't meant to exist. people focus on the smallest of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 hours ago, caleb68 said: still trying to justify it eh? so using your logic duping via a obelisk is perfectly legit too because, game mechanics and wildcard could easily stop it. Apples & oranges. Duping is not even close to an equivalent comparison. Duping is not easily prevented without also preventing transfers completely, and it also requires the manipulation of save files, which is clearly an exploit. At least I have logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeHammer Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, caleb68 said: im comparing 'game mechanics' in 'creating / keeping' items that weren't meant to exist. people focus on the smallest of things. Just because you can post illogical nonsense, doesn't mean you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, DeHammer said: Just because you can post illogical nonsense, doesn't mean you should. its funny your fighting this so hard, only someone who knows that what they did was wrong would continue to argue the issue. And here we are, you saying something is illogical because it brings a valid point to the table and you can't find a real argument to counter it. Just because something exists in the game that one can use to 'get around something' doesn't mean its a mechanic that was intentionally left in play. But that's okay, you keep thinking that its a illogical argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAS Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Is it going to be patched? I have to continue play Fear Evolved, upload all the event items or lose them. Or I could place hundreds of them somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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