Rosati Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Question about clones So it will be a minute or 3 until I get to this point but i like learning about things that are in the future to me. I have seen a lot of posts about people who don't want clones. And after looking I have seen that they can be pricey for resources to clone and that it sterilizes the dino as well. Is that the main reason why people don't like clones or are there more things that people are against them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rosati said: Question about clones So it will be a minute or 3 until I get to this point but i like learning about things that are in the future to me. I have seen a lot of posts about people who don't want clones. And after looking I have seen that they can be pricey for resources to clone and that it sterilizes the dino as well. Is that the main reason why people don't like clones or are there more things that people are against them? I doesn't sterilize the dino\creature the only thing I could see why they wouldn't want a clone would be cost or imprinting. ..u lose the 20% increase from imprint when u clone a bred creature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseX Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 What Lycan sayd and for me the dino is tagged with (Clone)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Some people want to trade for dinos ready to use. Clones take away any imprinting bonus stats that could be achieved otherwise (different than the 30% rider buff). So a dino that is able to be imprinted but loses that imprint stat gain through cloning may be less desirable. It can also be as simple as some people don't like to see the word clone at all times. Cloning is very beneficial for high stats someone is looking to acquire for breeding purposes and high stats that receive no imprint bonus for use (like Karkinos, Basilisks, Griffins, Arthro's, Mantis') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosati Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, MooseX said: What Lycan sayd and for me the dino is tagged with (Clone)... Oh that's dumb And I'm guessing there isn't anyway to change that either. 36 minutes ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Some people want to trade for dinos ready to use. Clones take away any imprinting bonus stats that could be achieved otherwise (different than the 30% rider buff). So a dino that is able to be imprinted but loses that imprint stat gain through cloning may be less desirable. It can also be as simple as some people don't like to see the word clone at all times. Cloning is very beneficial for high stats someone is looking to acquire for breeding purposes and high stats that receive no imprint bonus for use (like Karkinos, Basilisks, Griffins, Arthro's, Mantis') So if you breed the clone with another dino does the offspring pop out with the word clone on it or some way of showing (other then looking at heritage) that it is the offspring of a clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua1antern Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The responses above kinda cover the biggest reasons why, just wanted to add something at the end. For trading, clones are also cheaper, simply due to rarity. Having (clone) generally means there's more floating around, takes away from the uniqueness of the dino. You can breed lines with colors and stats generally, so I know it doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense. But just what I've observed overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rosati said: So if you breed the clone with another dino does the offspring pop out with the word clone on it or some way of showing (other then looking at heritage) that it is the offspring of a clone? Nah. That doesn't transfer over but stats and colors can just like a normal dino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua1antern Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Sorry, forgot to add something. So on the sterilized part, cloning is done at times in response to it being neutered, so you can get another copy to breed with. I haven't actually had to do it myself, but cloning if its neutered will produce a dino fresh with none of the baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgirl Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aqua1antern said: Sorry, forgot to add something. So on the sterilized part, cloning is done at times in response to it being neutered, so you can get another copy to breed with. I haven't actually had to do it myself, but cloning if its neutered will produce a dino fresh with none of the baggage. I think if you clone a sterilized dino the clone is also sterile. There was a big thread about it a while back and that is what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishAlexis Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The only downside to cloning for me is I hate the [CLONE] I front of it's name all the time. Otherwise clones carry on just like regular dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosati Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cowgirl said: I think if you clone a sterilized dino the clone is also sterile. There was a big thread about it a while back and that is what was said. Maybe thats what I read on the wiki. When working I read the wiki and this site a lot to try and learn some new stuff and I swear it said that once you clone a dino its fixed and I thought that would be a reason that people wouldn't like to have clones. But I guess if you have the elements and you wanna take it to a boss fight where you know you're gonna loose some dinos this would be a good way to do it without loosing one of your favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rosati said: Maybe thats what I read on the wiki. When working I read the wiki and this site a lot to try and learn some new stuff and I swear it said that once you clone a dino its fixed and I thought that would be a reason that people wouldn't like to have clones. But I guess if you have the elements and you wanna take it to a boss fight where you know you're gonna loose some dinos this would be a good way to do it without loosing one of your favorites. I've cloned a couple favorites just so I can use the clone instead, and not risk the favorite itself. TIP - Cloning time is 2x as well, so it takes 1/2 the normal time to make a clone right now, its treated as breeding (and is why you cant clone a baby). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhNxy Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I imagine cloning was an easy way to just have boss fighting dinos, but if it makes it sterile, seems to lock it into that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, AhNxy said: I imagine cloning was an easy way to just have boss fighting dinos, but if it makes it sterile, seems to lock it into that category. cloning doesn't make them sterile, all mine can still mate, but I don't know about ones that have been neutered or spaded (probably wrong spelling) and then cloned, as I like to leave mine so they can mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyme Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 No real reason to clone any breedable dinos, its very expensive and gives no imprint bonus. I typically only see clones or rare unbreedable dinos like zomdodos, phoenixes, or any unbreedable dino with cool event colors or some godly stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, Thyme said: No real reason to clone any breedable dinos, its very expensive and gives no imprint bonus. I typically only see clones or rare unbreedable dinos like zomdodos, phoenixes, or any unbreedable dino with cool event colors or some godly stats 2 players on giga, 1 good mantis with 200+dmg pick, doing element veins, that expensive cost just became null. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hud Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 What's about cloning cost?? We wanted to do some experiments with quetz, tamed one, lvl 200-220 not sure 100%, but cost 120k element shards. We cloned many dinos, low levels, high levels but never seen so high cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Cloning is for cloning non-breedable + non-imprintable animals. cloning lvl 5 female animals for breeding for mutations. You can clone 100 lvl 5 fem anything, pump up the food lvls so they don't starve and get to work. If you have enough of them, you will get perfect copies of say a lvl 377 stud. backing up important breeding animals, if you want to ensure one base destruction doesn't end your Ark life, keep backup copies on different servers so you can rebuild your bloodlines. transfering colors from event or mutations , preferably you get the colors on lower lvl females..... clone the female until you feel you have enough, work on color project. cloning dust gachas. You could tame 100 and not find a dust gacha, you can birth 100 gachas and not get a dust gacha. You can clone a lvl 21 female dust gacha in 6hrs, 23 element to start. 'nuff said. lots of single stat mutating breeders simply park the 1 stat on a lvl 5 stat base and clone it, sell clones . Worth doing on gigas and other longer raise aninals(water especially). any animal that takes more than 5 days to raise benefits more from a cloner than say a 2 day raise or other easy to raise animals. I dont' know all the ins and outs on this, but generally speaking, the lower the level, the lower the cost to start a clone. example, try cloneing a lvl 350 ravager that takes 2 days to raise and a lvl 100 giga, the giga will be cheaper. * last addition, NO - you can NOT clone a neutered animal and get a breed-able copy. That was way in the past and info out on the web that says otherwise is not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, hud said: What's about cloning cost?? We wanted to do some experiments with quetz, tamed one, lvl 200-220 not sure 100%, but cost 120k element shards. We cloned many dinos, low levels, high levels but never seen so high cost there are a few dino's with extremely high costs done so that you can not clone them in the cloning machine, it was a intentional thing done by wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosati Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Thank you all for the info! I'm not where close to even getting any tek atm but I like having advanced info so I can know whats coming and what to plan for or what to shoot for next!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampirisNocturn Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Cloning cost is based on 2 things the current lvl of the dino and its original tame hatch lvl. so you have a lvl 100 giga you just tamed it will cost u x amount(we will say 70,000 shards) you lvl it 30 lvls you will now have a y amount based on the original lvl (100) 70k shard + y shards based on each additional lvl gained so your new cost to clone your lvl 130 giga will be Z amount(100,000 shards) the down side to this is 2 fold as 1. it cost you more to clone. 2. The clone will come out at the original lvl.100 not 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Wiki info is old and outdated. Cloning a sterile animal will result in a serilized clone. I've done it and confirmed it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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