Engraverwilliam Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 51 minutes ago, Gluttonist said: No. nononononononono. no. I am a builder. I hate being encumbered while only carting a couple of things. (I can carry 5 stacks of stone) I dive for drops in the ocean.( Over 50 fortitude) I spend a tremendous time in the snow biome. I am always going to be a squishy human. I have Dinos for fighting. I did put some into stamina and movement speed for on-foot escaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluttonist Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Just now, Engraverwilliam said: I am a builder. I hate being encumbered while only carting a couple of things. (I can carry 5 stacks of stone) I dive for drops in the ocean.( Over 50 fortitude) I spend a tremendous time in the snow biome. I am always going to be a squishy human. I have Dinos for fighting. I did put some into stamina and movement speed for on-foot escaping. Right, I understand this, but for every scenario you mentioned there are dinos whose role is almost specifically for that. I know its preference but I play pvp and I would be incredibly ineffective running about with 100 health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4u2s0t Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gluttonist said: Right, I understand this, but for every scenario you mentioned there are dinos whose role is almost specifically for that. I know its preference but I play pvp and I would be incredibly ineffective running about with 100 health. You would probably be fine though if you spent most of your time building in the safety of your base :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluttonist Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, D4u2s0t said: You would probably be fine though if you spent most of your time building in the safety of your base :-) I do all the building in my base Personal opinion is that you don't need more than 200-250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanGoTeM Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I play on an Official PVP server, and am an experienced player. After I got to about level 73, I used a Mindwipe Tonic to readjust my stats. Here are my current stats (I might be off on a couple points, as I'm at work at this moment) Health: 350 Stamina: 150 Oxygen: 100 Weight: 340 Food: 100 Water: 100 Melee: 100 Fortitude: 20 Movement speed: 125% Before my Mindwipe Tonic, my melee damage was at about 160%. I recognized that at this point in my gameplay, I rarely ever found myself actually using melee weapons. I'm always mounted on a dino of some kind, whether it be on land or in the water. We have Gigas, Rexes and Wolves for any kind of land fighting we'd be doing, which is usually just to collect meat or raid another tribe anyway. We have Plesiosaurs and Megaladons for killing Anglers, Sharks and Plesiosaurs underwater. Even if I do dismount to kill something without the use of a dinosaur, I usually use a crossbow anyways. I think that depending on your circumstances, it may or may not make sense to invest points into melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4u2s0t Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gluttonist said: I do all the building in my base Personal opinion is that you don't need more than 200-250 For my play style, I agree. I think I have my weight at like 210 or 220 right now, if I need to carry more than that I'm not doing it on foot. I generally only go out harvesting on foot or using my own weight if I need a few pieces of something. If I need say 4 walls, I'm not going to lug a mammoth around, I'll just go chop a few trees and stone. More than that and I'll be collecting on my argy or quetzal, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluttonist Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I play the roles of Tribe Leader, resource gatherer, and crafter. Stats that work for me are: Health -350 Stamina -150 Oxygen -200 Food/Water -100 Melee -200 Movement Speed -100 Fortitude -32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes013 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yeah, 5 points in it aint nothing. But, invest 15-25 points, and now we're talking! Its amazing. I play in official pvp and I LOVE it. Especially tapering off ~300-325%. One club hit can knock out a guy in armor. Its glorious. Why repeat kill a guy in a raid? KO + Handcuffs or just KO = longer time out of fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manding0 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I have to disagree as well. Take the mastercraft club for example. I will put you to sleep with my 300% melee damage in full riot gear. My friends who have 100% melee damage can't knock fools out with 1 hit in basic flak. It also allows you to hack away at wooden structures with better damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiningsessionpaul Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 400 melee. 1 hit ko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Melee has nothing to do with gathering, it's a PvP Stat. It makes a Big difference in a gun fight or Melee battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluttonist Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, MrDynamicMan said: Melee has nothing to do with gathering, it's a PvP Stat. It makes a Big difference in a gun fight or Melee battle. http://ark.gamepedia.com/Melee_Damage Third sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGein Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 On March 16, 2016 at 0:07 PM, IDNeon said: Easy yes, not when you have to do it every 10 minutes. Which, again you must not be playing official server or something. Because that's exactly how often I'd have to repair my flak. By the way, melee dmg is worthless in PvP. Tell this to my ascendant sword/mastercraft metal shield or my mastercraft wood club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Gluttonist said: http://ark.gamepedia.com/Melee_Damage Third sentence. Yes yes, it will technically increase your gather rates but by lvl60 you shouldn't be manually gathering anything, there are dinos for that. People who spec melee do it for PvP combat, not to get three extra wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluttonist Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, MrDynamicMan said: Yes yes, it will technically increase your gather rates but by lvl60 you shouldn't be manually gathering anything, there are dinos for that. People who spec melee do it for PvP combat, not to get three extra wood. You may not, but someone might. My point was that it does affect resources and you shouldn't tell people otherwise simply because you don't use it for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndR20 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 thats true man, maibe a lil bit of melee but never go full on, youre never gonna have to fight a rex on foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 28 minutes ago, Gluttonist said: You may not, but someone might. My point was that it does affect resources and you shouldn't tell people otherwise simply because you don't use it for that. Sorry, misunderstanding. I worded my post a bit weirdly. Basically what I meant is that the primary goal of spending melee is to deal more damage against players and dinos, and if you want to gather better there are much better stats for that. (weight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDNeon Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 On 3/30/2016 at 6:19 AM, EdGein said: Tell this to my ascendant sword/mastercraft metal shield or my mastercraft wood club Drop you in lava, destroy your stuff. Big waste of money. Drop you in the middle of the ocean. Grab...barrel roll, all it takes. Tranq you. Lol. So many ways to defeat your ascendant anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overthrown Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Someone probably already said this, but melee is very important in pvp aspect. With 300 melee and a bat, you can knock someone out in one hit. (overpowered in my opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePotatoChip Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I don't know, man. Melee seems like it could be a lot of fun. Maybe for the bigger tribes with more members, they could even create an infantry unit when they want to raid but don't want to risk many tames. Have tribemates who've stated the heck out of movement speed, stamina and Melee and bring them into a battle. Pull up in a Gallimimus, hop out and do as much damage to the squishier tames as possible. Manhandle the wolves and sabers and, when you're picked up by a flyer, grapple onto it and wail on it with your Journeyman Metal Sword or whatever. When your teammates pick riders out of their saddles, run in and slice 'em up after they're dropped and don't die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosNopales Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Personally I love Melee. First stage when I build, put all of your points in Weight and Melee. Harvest and build to your heart content. When you done building then mind wipe and you balance better. Melee makes a big difference with the right tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Its indeed a preference imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGein Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 On April 8, 2016 at 6:58 PM, IDNeon said: Drop you in lava, destroy your stuff. Big waste of money. Drop you in the middle of the ocean. Grab...barrel roll, all it takes. Tranq you. Lol. So many ways to defeat your ascendant anything. Until you get grappling hooked and your bird is chopped into raw meat for my fridge. Or if we're bringing birds into it Ill just grab my war quetzs and have 45 turrets ripping your bird into confetti. We have a coliseum in official pvp NA 414 I'd like to see you attempt any of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansPegasus Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I love going melee early on an mid game because its fun to have your back up wait on the sideline while you go 12 rounds with an alpha provided you got a crap ton in health or your screwed my quetz, argents an pteras can literally 1 hit alphas some times 2 or 3 if its a rex but me it takes a good 5 minutes of hit an running for me to kill an alpha raptor providing you can get away when your health is low or be close to your dinos. An it might just be me but i swear melee also helps increase damage of ranged weapons an firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupen Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 On PvE, this is true. I still like a few points in it, but I can't think of a single scenario where I couldn't bring a Dino if I wanted. Even the new swamp and snow caves are Dino friendly if you breed them and lead them inside. Definitely a lot of fun one shotting things with pikes though, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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