SaltyMonkey Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Best Direbear stats? Looking to help my tribe member find and breed some Direbears. What high stats should we be looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Highest tamed/clean I seen was approx 4500 hp, 2500 st, 1240 wt, and 387 melee. Obviously melee can go higher but think the other stats were on the higher side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Highest tamed/clean I seen was approx 4500 hp, 2500 st, 1240 wt, and 387 melee. Obviously melee can go higher but think the other stats were on the higher side. Damn that’s high melee, I’m sure the last time we did a project on a different play through the highest we saw was around the 370 mark so it’s good to know it can go above that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymas Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 When looking for "breedable" stats the answer will be the same for almost every animal--40+ points is the rule of thumb for a good baseline. The only exceptions to this rule are birds, which don't put any points into speed and can easily push up to around 50. Much beyond that and it becomes a point of diminishing returns--the effort spent looking for better animals is higher than that of breeding for mutations. 50+ is rare but golden if you find it, essentially. To figure out how many points an animal has, the Ark Smart Breeding tool can extract the stats and provide the data for you. The only downside is it's a PC program and I know you guys are on console, so that might require a bit of literal extra legwork, lol. One thing it is possible to do is simply calculate ahead of time what the raw stat value you're aiming for is and write it down, so that way you don't really need to pull the stats on every bear you tame. Just compare it to the "ideal" stat and it's easy. I went ahead and looked it up, this is what 40 points in each stat looks like on a bear: HP 3600 Stamina 2500 Oxygen 1350 Food 15000 Weight 1170 Melee 361 The stats yek has are ~50-52 HP, 40 stamina, 46 weight and 44 melee. All very achievable base stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Highest tamed/clean I seen was approx 4500 hp, 2500 st, 1240 wt, and 387 melee. Obviously melee can go higher but think the other stats were on the higher side. Yeah, that's a hell of a bear. On legacy I had bears that would easily kill Alpha Rexes, I miss em... They hit so damn hard. I was still a noob then too, but lucked out with a tamed HP stat and got a clean melee on island of 404 from someone. But I don't want to guess how long it took them to get that 404 melee, holy crap that tribe had a base full of bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukushu Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I saw some guy selling 425 or 445 meele dire bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 5,8khp 2200stam 1127 weight 508 melee on legacy birthed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Cymas said: When looking for "breedable" stats the answer will be the same for almost every animal--40+ points is the rule of thumb for a good baseline. The only exceptions to this rule are birds, which don't put any points into speed and can easily push up to around 50. Much beyond that and it becomes a point of diminishing returns--the effort spent looking for better animals is higher than that of breeding for mutations. 50+ is rare but golden if you find it, essentially. To figure out how many points an animal has, the Ark Smart Breeding tool can extract the stats and provide the data for you. The only downside is it's a PC program and I know you guys are on console, so that might require a bit of literal extra legwork, lol. One thing it is possible to do is simply calculate ahead of time what the raw stat value you're aiming for is and write it down, so that way you don't really need to pull the stats on every bear you tame. Just compare it to the "ideal" stat and it's easy. I went ahead and looked it up, this is what 40 points in each stat looks like on a bear: HP 3600 Stamina 2500 Oxygen 1350 Food 15000 Weight 1170 Melee 361 The stats yek has are ~50-52 HP, 40 stamina, 46 weight and 44 melee. All very achievable base stats. Thanks. I use to have smart breeder but the file got corrupted and I could never get it to redownload properly so don't have it as a reference anymore. @TheDonn and @SaltyMonkey sorry. That wasn't my bear or one bear, lol. Those are stats I seen around. I tamed the 2500 stam for a friend who also had the 1240 wt. I seen on a FB trade site the 4500 hp and after talking to the guy found out it was clean hp which is crazy. Highest I tamed was probably like 3700. The melee, unmutated, I seen on a facebook trade page too. I do remember the guy with 4500 hp had got his bears up to 410 melee as well, I don't remember rest of stats, but he was a paypal seller so I banned him from our trade group so no idea how he progressed from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 UPDATED: I started a fresh blood line of bears, starting stats: hea 3.9K sta 2.9K oxy 1.3K foo 15.8K wei 1.1K mel 402 current stats: hea 5.8K sta 3.7K oxy 645 foo 17.4K wei 1.3K mel 508 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heay Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 8:13 AM, h2o said: I started a fresh blood line of bears, starting stats: hea3.9 sta2.9 oxy1.3 foo15.8 wei1.1 mel402 current stats: hea4.7 sta3.4 oxy645 foo16.8 wei1.2 mel449 cubs were popping 338 so decided to nerf oxy and speed, now popping 265. Idk if you are still playing seeing this was in July but did you ever find a higher clean hp I’ve tamed so many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyBear Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 We have had 425 clean on official pve for ab ones for awhile. I would go hunt for bears on valg. A friend just got 443md clean on the polar bears there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heay Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 23 hours ago, GrumpyBear said: We have had 425 clean on official pve for ab ones for awhile. I would go hunt fire bears on valg. A friend just got 443md clean on the polar bears there. I have 3.8 clean ab bears but on regular bears my best stats are 3.6hp 2650s 1404 oxy 15900f 1248w 419m all clean stats, if anyone on the Xbox platform has better (clean) stats and is willing to trade, would gladly be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4.9k hp 1100 stam 1127 weight 566 melee on legacy ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 3:36 PM, Heay said: Idk if you are still playing seeing this was in July but did you ever find a higher clean hp I’ve tamed so many Yup still playing, no 3.9 still highest clean, I have 5k health at birth now so I can't complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 3:51 PM, GrumpyBear said: We have had 425 clean on official pve for ab ones for awhile. I would go hunt fire bears on valg. A friend just got 443md clean on the polar bears there. Thanks for advice, I have 484 melee now so going to stick with my current bloodline, way to much time invested to start fresh again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heay Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 6:49 AM, h2o said: Thanks for advice, I have 484 melee now so going to stick with my current bloodline, way to much time invested to start fresh again. 484 clean? Or mut line? I assume mutated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakhen Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 My best bears are 4960.1hp, 2650stam, 1350oxy, 15,900food, 1248wt, and 408.1 damage (57, 43, 40, 43, 46) clean, no mutations. (44 in speed too) They birth at level 322. But this is off on a crossark so can't offer anything up for trade etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I have 4000 HP 396 melee clean, pretty happy with that. No good mutations so far, but we'll see what we see. Imprinted up with a half-decent saddle they absolutely rout the entire ice cave on Rag without breaking a sweat. Such an underused tame, they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heay Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Drakhen said: My best bears are 4960.1hp, 2650stam, 1350oxy, 15,900food, 1248wt, and 408.1 damage (57, 43, 40, 43, 46) clean, no mutations. (44 in speed too) They birth at level 322. But this is off on a crossark so can't offer anything up for trade etc. I have never heard of That kind of hp, only 4400 but the rest of the stats are exactly like mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakhen Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I've tamed a ton of bears but only gotten good hp stats like that once or twice. It must be a super rare thing to get 57 points in a stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Drakhen said: I've tamed a ton of bears but only gotten good hp stats like that once or twice. It must be a super rare thing to get 57 points in a stat. Definitely on something that has a chance to waste levels in speed. I've gotten several 50+ points on flyers including 58 in Argy stam (1560) and 57 in Argy oxygen (1005) but they don't waste levels in speed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 8:55 AM, Heay said: 484 clean? Or mut line? I assume mutated 484 mutated stat, started at 402. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 12:20 AM, Drakhen said: My best bears are 4960.1hp, 2650stam, 1350oxy, 15,900food, 1248wt, and 408.1 damage (57, 43, 40, 43, 46) clean, no mutations. (44 in speed too) They birth at level 322. But this is off on a crossark so can't offer anything up for trade etc. 4.9k clean health is insanely high. Hand on heart I must have tamed anywhere from 50-100 130+ bears, majority being 145 and 150's, highest health I ever got was 3.9k, second highest was 3.7k. The danger you face with such high combined stats at the start of a bloodline is that 376 is the max start level, so at 322 you only have room for 54 levels, which is only 27 possible new muts before bloodline level too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Got a new health mutation last night, 5.2k at birth now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2o Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If anyone still has this thread thought I'd update you on my bear stats, I now have 5.8k health 3.7k stam and 508 melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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