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I think  if you did a POLL< asking the community from all servers  what they would rather,   NEW content,  or Just fix Crap  so that it works right. (like that is ever going to happen).  You would get an Overwhelming Majority telling you to just fix the fundatmentals of the game.  

I GUARANTEE  you would LOSE  a lot less players as well.

#1, I have nearly 5000 hours on ark.  and I have 3 kids that play or have played at various times.

#2  I played stomping lands B4 ark, and was in on the beta for ark since begining.

#3 I own, Island, centre, Scorched, ragnarok, valguerro, extinction, aberration  season pass, and Primitive Plus.

 

I will do my best to make this brief, although there is a LOT of info here.

I have played on all those expansions, etc listed above.  since the begining of time ark has run,   and here are some of my Insights into ark.  game developers, Mods, Admins  . whoever you all are that run this crap.

I spend a lot of money, on this game, and Expansions,  season pass etc. this *ENTITLES* me to customer Support,, I am a PAYING Customer.   but *IN MY GAMING EXPERIENCE With Ark / Wildcard* 
That has NOT mattered one Freaking bit.   EVERY SINGLE  support ticket I have ever posted  has been Denied,  or ignored,   I mean,  I have tickets 4 years ago.  that I never once got an email or reply to.  not even a Courteous HEY WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE MAN!!

On Official servers,  Pve, mode,  i played on several servers  (a rather long while ago,)  we were PLAGUED by tribes that pillared off areas,  put up foundations to block metal spawns,    Vast areas  covered   and to Prevent  Me ( and other players) from expanding or growing out tribes  our building sites were often blocked off around us, so we oculd not expand any farther.   They look for new joiners / players to the server and block in your thatch buildings so you can't grow.   

I put in countless tickets  about this,  with others form my tribes, and server who all played together,  I never once received an answer or ever recall a GM coming online to do anything.  after more than a year, 

I played on PVP>  OFFICIAL servers,  where listerally  several servers  ive played on,  My entire tribe was wiped  by Alphas fnot just from other servers but other nationalitys.  Spanish, chinese, Br's,  just to name a few,, Came in and wiped numerous servers  over and over,    Soimetimes  setting up bases around all the obelisks and plant X, gun turrets  heavys  etc etc  so no one can transfer in equipment pets, etc.   There are Metal Spike walls,  around Spawn points  so when you log in, you are spiked to death instantly and lose all your shyt.  this is STILL HAPPENING  AT THE PRESENT TIME  ON MANY SERVERS>

I have seen ALPHAS occupy a server for more than 2 Yrs.  Logging in on weekends and what not,  taking players hostage in cages and doing round the clock Narc'ing so we can't respawn new toons,  etc.  

This is NOT once a while  this happens, this is Nearly a daily basis.  in my experience on probably more than  a Dozen servers I have played on  over the last 5 yrs or what not.

And then legacy servers..

I have played on legacy on at least 1 server  and at times 4-5  since the Beta.    and Although there are alphas that do come on and wipe entire servers,  even though we screwed for support completely  by the company we are still PAYING<   with the same hard earned money  everyone else is using.    we get Fluffed over  time and time again.

 

I got some news for you,   We pay same CASH  as everyone else..   we are on OFFICIAL SERVERS<<   they belong to wild card  or what not,  and are your officially released game,  your officially released Expansion modules etc.

what you are doing is NOT about Keeping customers happy,, its about FORCING your customer base,  To move to new products and Expansion  so you can keep taking their fricken money.  IF  YOU EVER  HAD ANY*** INTENTION to keep your Customers happy,   you would have stopped just randomly adding dinos  every month  5 yrs ago, and actually fixed your game engine, and lag issues, and Disconnects,  and fixed falling through landscape and Meshing  Issues  THAT STILL EXIST TO THIS DAY.

I play WOW<  world of warcraft for more than 15 yrs,  and HAPPILY PAID 14.99$ canadian  Per month,  month after month, year after year.. BECAUSE THEIR PRODUCT WORKS>

THEY BAN Game abusers,  hackers, Bullies Those who are there to Lessen the game experience of others.

I Played Global MU online for probably 12 yrs +  Paying for Items and buffs as I went  adding up inot the 1000's of dollars over the years,

I played  SWTOR    star wars the old republic,  Again,  MORE than 10--12 yrs,,  purchasing items,  buffs,  etc In  the Ingame  sHops.. 

These are just a COUPLE of the games i have played,  for years,  not to mention  EVERY SINGLE  Need for speed game and movie ever released,   All the Gran turismo's. PS

Battle fields, Medal of Honours,  Half life,  etc etc

One of the patterns Is that I have been  a LOYAL paying Fan  of these other games  for some more than 20 years.  Because  they work,  they support their customers,  they ban hackers,  they ban abusers,  THEY DO THE WORK  to make the Game Great.
They dont just throw up some Weekend Boosted XP  and tell players to go screw themselves.

 

I PAID for your game, So i can indulge MY SENSE of Entertainment.  To raise baby dinos,  to build bases. and breed new Dinos to see how big and strong and high level i can make them.   This is MY  entertainment that I am paying for.

JUST SO THAT Some Dumbass Weekend warrior can unload 100's of C4 and rockets  and him and his pot smoking group of fuktards can go and wipe out 3 yrs of work,, While im Offline   and then when I submit a ticket  I get told  we don't offer customer support on legacy servers.

AND the best one of all,   You need to submit a recent screen shot,  of your pet.  Proving that it exists,  Other wise  Lost, destroyed, killed pets, ETC  will not be replaced.

Are you freaking kidding me ?   I have baby rexes, lvl 392, to 420,   and Breed then Enmass,  I don't take screenies as each one is born then update them all each day.

 

YOU Abuse, and neglect  your customer base, and come up with lame azz exscuses for why you cannot support your product / services,  and give your paying customers a pat on the aback   once in a while.

I LOVE legacy servers  and in all honestly  ive been raided like 30 times in the last 7 - 8 months, and I have managed, to save my baby rexs, and manas, and wyverns, and almost lvl 300 Quetzels.   and after being wiped,  move to a new spot, or a new sever, or a new base and ENTIRELY start over again,, COUNTLESS times.

 

So since i am  ABSOLUTELY  one of your MOST LOYAL fans,  Since I have stuck through all the crap for more than 5 YRS now.  Since i have gone through Countless Loss,  and tried nearly every game mode over and over   here is what would make me happy.

 

you DONT need 100% of your servers updated to new ones. thats just a LOAD of crap.. HALF your *official* servers  are empty most of the time,  then when  you add Expansion or other modes, you get a Burst of players for 30 days ?? MAYBE 60 if your lucky  and then they are Empty again.

 

Leave a certain % of servesr as Legacy,  of each game mode,  aberation, extinction, ragnarok, island, centre, SE

FIND SOME WAY<  that Legacy players can copy,  move, Upload  their dinos and key Items and Move them to a new   *Official server*  If they so wish to do that.  AFTER 3 Yrs on Legacy,  Breeding my rexes up to level 420 babies, with 38K Health, and 1250% melee dmg. with 2000+ Stam  etc  Why should I have to watch them all get deleted  and POOF<  so that I can move to an  *Official*  server  to start with absolutely nothing,   and have  LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON on that server  abuse the shyt out of you. because you have nothing.   At least  Being able to move with my dino's  I have some Defense.. I have some means  to get metal . stone,   make  a descent base  within a matter of hours,, not a matter of days.

Change all of your Game modes to FREE Expansions,    YUP<  A  One time purchase gets you ALL Modes, expansions of ark  So whatever it is 49.99$  and you get ALL ARK games / expansions.  THEN<

Charge a flat Rate fee,   5.99 Month,  9.99 $ a Month.  (not more,  your game simply isn't worth that much)   THEN  After people start subscribing,, offer some REAL CUSTOMER SUPPORT ACROSS ALL REALMS>  Because My 79.99$  in cash is the same value  as the guy who plays official vs legacy,  YOu cant pick and choose to support some cutomers and not  others/

You boost DmG   for caves  etc  right ?   why not support a More Fair  PVP alternative.   Something like this.

When you are offline,  the Damage you take is dropped By like 90%  and the dmg your pets,  turret  etc infict is boosted another 50% or something.  This will help make raiders  really have to pay,  and bust their butts to raid someone offline.  and OFC  You can't be in the middle of a Fight and try to OFFLINE  to save your azz... not fair.

To those  jerks and Alphas.   who INSIST on consitantly raiding  OFFLINE players / tribes,  They will be given a DEBUFF<  where they will take an extra 100% Dmg  for a set duration of time,    so while they are out Bullying  those tribes  who have 3-4 guys, and totally wipe all their dinos etc.  and destroy every base,  every box, vault and everything they own,  they must also take a risk.    and as they Raid more  and more offline players,   Kill more dinos,     their DEBUFF weakens them more and more so that they take more dmg   maybe 500% more damage  from all sources.

THEN  when that tribe logs in,  that has 2 or 3 players,  who doesnt Spend 30 people, 10 hours a day farming gunpowder and metal,    they can go and ACTUALLY retaliate.  Vs those  who abused / bullied  etc.  

Even out the battle field for those we don't spend all their time on ark  stockpiling to wipe out everyone else for no reason.

Go back to making things  Simple man.   ARK  island / Centre  was for  Dinos  and primitive type of play,, KEEP IT THAT WAY> 

Stop allowing Cross Dino Contamination.   

IF wyvern are in SE and Rag,  Extinction.  Leave them there.  Do not allow  moving  cross modes.  If TEK is allowed  Aberation and Extinction,  LEaVE it on those two game modes.

I can't tell you how many times  On Ragn  My base,  Golems,  Gigas,  Rexs  have been wiped out By Meks and Rail guns and other Tek crap.. its frustrating...  

If you tame a TITAN<  on Extinct  It should STAY on extinction.  etc etc.

then by doing so,  Players  who have  Rexs and Gigas,  will only have to fight  Vs.  Rexes and Gigas.    and So forth.   

You  simply CANNOT  make a base on ragnarok thats going to witthstand  Meks, and Tek gear  assaults.  

So those who like tek  can go play tek,  those that like more oldschool  can do their thing.

 

 

This is really what gets  me  this   Makes my head explode...

I pay the same as everyone else.  and all I want to do  is raise my dinos,, build a cool a base.   THATS   MY<<< thing.  but I hvae to Tolerate.   Idiots  quite frankly,  because they grew up on a free internet that Promotes Obscurity, and Anonymity   no one knows  who they are,, where they are,,, So they can say/  do anything they like.  Mentality.  Heres the problem.  I pay the same amount of money  to enjoy your game  the WAY  i enjoy it.. and all they do  Is destroy  the beauty  of what other people Create.  Why s hould i have to be subjected to online bullying,  and harrassment  because you can't support the people who buy your products ???

 

LASTLY 

I cannot tell you,  words Cannot express   how much  I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE   *the IDEA  Of This game  ARK*

But you have dropped the ball  so many times,  and ignored Sound.  Professional  BUSINESS~!!!!  this game COULD BE  beyond Amazing,  SPECTACULAR     and go down into the HIstory of  Best video games  ever.  But  you guys keep ignoring the basics,  fix the bugs,  get rid of the  Game exploits,  Meshing among other things.    Balance the PVP system so It cannot be abused, by the bullys, hackers, and Griefers,   Back in the BETA of ark, I would fall through the floor of my house  and drown in the water Underneath.. IT STILL DOES THAT<   5+ yrs later.. WHO DOES THAT???   Seriously,, what Company out there,  has such HUGE  Glaring bugs, glitches etc,  and Completely Ignores it,  so they can launch a new dino!! Or a new 2x  XP event..  

IF YOU WANT PAYING CUSTOMERS S GIVE THEM WHAT THEY PAY FOR>

RULE #1  SUPPORT YOUR DAM CUSTOMERS    plain and simple,,   then they keep coming back,  Your losing people.   having server populations DROP dramatically because people are tired of you NOT doing your JOBS      to be CLEAR     without PAYING  CUSTOMERS    You have NO JOB>

#2  YA  i KNOW ITS PVP server,  but your PVP  if F*********      do something to FIX it.   balance it.  In ALL THE YEARS ive played ARK  i have LITERALLY  been online 2x  when i was raided  out of like 200  Times  Ive been raided and wiped out. i have been online  to dfend myself 2X>..    and BOTH of those times   i was outmanned,  out gunned and could do almost NOTHING  to stop them from raiding me,< BUT   both times,   i packed up my best pets,, flyers  etc, and the BPS  items i wanted most  and walked away  while they destroyed everything.     They don't do it  to get items or dinos  for the most part, I have screen shots of people  typing ot me in chat,  on how much they do it,, JUST  for the FUN of killing Peoples pets they have worked so hard for.. 

Your PVP is broke,, ffs   Do something  with it..

 

I would be happy  to pay your company more money, if you actually did ANYTHING  tha tmattered  to fix the game.  make it more playable,  more balanced  and I would KEEP playing  it  for years,, without MORE DINOS and More XP event.s.   Just leave me the Fark  alone  to play   but No you gota keep deleting my servers and wiping my pets.

 

I have ranted a raved enough.. so tired of this  Crap..   if you want peoples money,, Treat them like you give a CRAP and they will be appy to give you Money.

I have been loyal to this game SINCE day one.  and I am finally FED UP  with the bull crapoola    If you guys don't fix this crap  im Out!

 

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We are a lot of people who play in Legacy 935, we have established beautiful relationships and fortunately we all get along. After more than thousands of hours a day we will have to log in and lose everything, because you have to open new servers where nobody will ever play. You give us the way to download the data, but what do we do with it? We want to play where we are. Playing knowing that one day we will be canceled makes the urge go away. If this is a good way for you to hold back the players, you are WRONG. And if I lose everything, you will no longer have our cent.

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when I just find out that all legacy servers are getting shut down and you don’t realise that 1000s of those people that played on them servers are not gonna come back because of you wildcard. Making old servers disappear so can you make new ones? That’s pretty stupid and I been on a cluster legacy server for 5 years and I still haven’t done all boss fights yet to unlock my trophies but Here goes me back to step 1. Thanks wildcard ruin it for everyone.

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I am reply to the new closing of servers on Jan 28 2020. I been playing Ark when it started where this caused me to be on legacy server and my bad choice primative.  My tribe and friends been pushed from server to server now this Jan 28 2020 we have no place to move to. Xbox pve primative serve will be erased and it seems Wild Card does not care about there first players . Everyone on 94 is so upset and this server is not dead. Visit it. We try our best to keep our numbers up This time that did not work. 

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17 minutes ago, MyKarma13 said:

I looked to see where I can move to. There is nothing.  Blank. Not right. 94 right now is mad and sad. Why are we treated like this?

94 is very mad. Your not being fare to us. Let us move our things. A lot if us want to go to 1147 valg.

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It would be really nice to let 1 Server each map of legacy Server  online, or give the playerbase the chance to move their char (and chibi!) to another active Server.

shutting down all legacy Servers at one time is a bit hard... but maybe necessary when your real intention is to make the official Servers become new-legacy and launch real new official servers Oo

so please give the legacy Server community a place in YOUR official or whatever servers and let them move there at least with the character!

 

 

by the way.. fix meshing.. fix 123 steamids..  let every Player Register an unique accountname, that is visible to all..

the advantage for you will be that you can implement a herold like in other shooter/pvp games with statistics and rankings. (daoc those days)

like kill Counts... like raised 100% imprint Counts...  or number of bosskills... a game that  uses a "ShooterGame.exe" deserves statistics and rankings!

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Why is the Winter Wonderland still running. Also when do you think you will move 442 PVE to a different server IP so we are not constantly disconnected due to network issues. It makes playing on Extinction almost impossible as the risk of losing the drop halfway through and possibly losing your dinos is not worth it. This has been this way for weeks now. 

 

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Dear Ark Devs, please spare us..

Dear ark devs,

Yesterday you posted that you will be removing all legacy servers due to lack of activity. While this is a valid reason for it removal, I humbly ask you consider sparring primitive legacy server 130 on xbox.  We don't know whose feed back you got to do this but we can garentee no one from Xbox is part of it what's left in legacy on Xbox is fairly tight nit and no one talked to a dev. I will now explain why you should not only spare LEGACY-Primitive-NA-XboxOfficialServer13O but to give Xbox primitive a scortched earth or ragnorok server. 

Server 130 has 4 active tribes on it that most continue to play bring the server count to above 10 usually daily until now with this announcement. 

So as I said we get above 10 players daily and we new players joining the ark alot as well. Ark primitive was the beginning it started everything you guys have now. It's quite literally the beginning of your legacy. There are still people who love primitive and just those who don't want to be wiped by a dodo strapped with c4. A valid argument is that you will be letting us download and keep the server going on a private server but it's just there is a feeling of competition and excitement you get from a legacy/official server that private servers don't give you. As a small game developer myself I know you can't give the fans what they want all the time and we try hard to keep them happy and I know servers cost money so i completely understand why you need to remove legacy to make Genesis servers but We from 130 humbly ask you you devs at wildcard to please don't throw away your roots and keep atleast 130 primitive Xbox server. 

Now if by I chance I atleast have your attention I believe if you guys are open to it you could also add ragnorok or scortched earth to primitive. Why you may ask, well 2 reasons.
1.  Dragons/wyverns are cool and removing scortched earth is a big reason primitive players stopped playing and new ones or old ones never came back 
2. We did pay for scortched earth so honestly to not have that available for all games modes is a bit outrageous to me.

Thank you for reading this and I hope it will reach you guys. Have a good day.

#saveprimitiveark #fight4ark

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Greetings, 

Well I don't really even know how I ended up on legacy servers because it didn't say legacy when I first got on the cluster but I like were I am and the people I play with. 
However it has been very annoying that every time I get going good on a server it gets shut down and have to move. 
I only play PVE I work and don't have time to constantly monitor crap and nothing is worst than getting on your game and all your crap is gone or your animals decayed or starved to death when you been working all the time.

anyway my question is if all legacy servers are eventually going to go away how do I move all our stuff to a non legacy server couse quite frankly if I cant im gonna quit playing. because it ridicules' the amount of time and effort that has to be put into this game to just loose everything . 
thanks

GOARACK
 

 

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Lol mate your server is getting killed nothing you can say or do will change that.

Take this time considering your playerbase on the server is tiny anyway to discuss all of you going unofficial and continuing your game from the save file and as an added bonus you can grant yourself a SE or RAG map, or building up on an official map but trying to put effort here into saving your map isnt gonna help.

Also just a quick fyi they didn't ask for feedback before making the post only after and the legacy hour glass is clearly near empty now so by genesis part 2 legacy will most likely cease to exist so might as well accept it.

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10 minutes ago, goarack said:

Well I don't really even know how I ended up on legacy servers because it didn't say legacy when I first got on the cluster but I like were I am and the people I play with. 

You may have been playing on the server before it was designated Legacy. At that time, all the new servers were brought up and it was time to move off the old to the new. You might have missed the memo.

11 minutes ago, goarack said:

my question is if all legacy servers are eventually going to go away how do I move all our stuff to a non legacy server

As of right now, that's not possible.

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I'm going to lock this thread.  Why? The purpose of this thread has been served.  I mainly wanted this to serve as a temporary way to collect feedback on a topic.  There will be times in the future to voice your feedback on the topic.  Thank you to everyone that participated and provided feedback that's relevant to the conversation.

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