Weigh In: Legacy, New Servers, and New Modes

[Erinn]

3 hours ago, crazyhobo said:

imo these need to be taken down a heck of a lot of them need to be removed theres no reason in hell for 248 leg servers where 90% of them are only 2 people online at a time

The same can be said about official servers. Sometimes during peak hours I see at least 4-6 people on ALL legacy servers, but when I check official servers some say 2-3 players are online. I even saw an empty one.

I would suggest migration, but this time for official players. We will gladly share this funny event with you.

[ItWasntMe]

On 11/23/2019 at 12:52 PM, koreamedia said:

I agree with you.

same here

[GreenRoc]

I would like to play on an official PvE server with no hostiles.

I am a builder, a mount rider, an eye candy collector, a breeder, an item hoarder, a harvester, and I love playing with my friends...

But I hate losing stuff that I spent time on. I hate getting attacked. I hate adrenaline (hurts me irl) and I want to hold onto what I earned for years to come. (and I dont enjoy 'creative' which removes a lot of the stuff I enjoy).

I also have friends who wont play this game because of how easily they get killed by npc creatures in the first hour, before they know how to craft anything, because they are still learning the controls.

I also know other players who wont play because of avatar (your human) maintenance. Food drain, water drain, stamina drain, it's too much work for them, and they love to play Minecraft and other building games. But asking for those drains to be turned to zero might be too much? But I am pretty sure I am not the only player who wants this lack of avatar maintenance. Managing HP (weather, falling) and Oxygen can be the limit of what some ppl would be willing to put up with.

How many players would start playing ark, or play ark once again, if they can avoid dying so much? I can only imagine. For sure, my roommate would. He's seen me play and he is soooo "nope" from the avatar maintenance alone. He even hates stamina drain in some easier games. I hear him ranting about stamina interrupting his diggy diggy hole (Boundless) from time to time from his PC.

A server, official, non-PvP, no hostile creatures, nor hostile-inducing creatures (pachyrhino etc)... but defensive are ok imo (defensive like trikes, stegos, etc).

I am sure a small number of players would enjoy an Official server lacking dilos and rapamatars, not just myself.

Would it cost too much to have at least one, just one server like this? How many ppl would play it? I know I would, and I'm pretty sure I'd buy Ark for my roomate if such a server existed. Totally possible with existing configs, because I set up my Singleplayer like this.

Suggested server nickname: Peaceful

[GreenRoc]

I stopped playing Legacy when someone had built a 4-high, 12+ wide wall of BEHEMOTH gates on PvE Aberration (I am not kidding) blocking off the path I took daily between needed resources and my home base...

and GMs would not remove it because "Legacy".

[TheDonn]

There seems to still be confusion about Legacy, as @Lycan187u pointed out.  Crunch 135 has vague language about servers that are "safe from future removals" but @Cedric says to not expect the servers to stick around forever.

Again, the Legacy/non-Legacy discussion is worth having if there is any way that some Legacy servers will stay online, or will be merged with the main official cluster.  If all Legacy servers will definitely be removed in the future, there is nothing more to say and we should really move on.  Legacy players should play and have fun until their servers are killed off, and Official players should stop trying to look like the Dictators of ARK by commanding that Legacy be taken offline. 

I'm not saying this because completely depreciating all Legacy servers would be good for me in any way, shape, or form.  I am trying to remind people why discussions are useful in the first place.  You have discussions to decide what the frigg to do.  If the decision is already made, the discussion is pointless because you are basically screaming into a vacuum (not that anyone is necessarily screaming).  If the dialogue goes somewhere for the Legacy folks, great!  If there is nothing to do but wait for the axe to fall, we as a community should really end the discussion and let those folks enjoy their time.

[Joebl0w13]

Only a matter of

for Legacy servers.

[Lycan187u]

4 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said:

Only a matter of

for Legacy servers.

haha that's the case for all eventually at the rate its going

[Lycan187u]

5 hours ago, TheDonn said:

There seems to still be confusion about Legacy, as @Lycan187u pointed out.  Crunch 135 has vague language about servers that are "safe from future removals" but @Cedric says to not expect the servers to stick around forever.

Again, the Legacy/non-Legacy discussion is worth having if there is any way that some Legacy servers will stay online, or will be merged with the main official cluster.  If all Legacy servers will definitely be removed in the future, there is nothing more to say and we should really move on.  Legacy players should play and have fun until their servers are killed off, and Official players should stop trying to look like the Dictators of ARK by commanding that Legacy be taken offline. 

I'm not saying this because completely depreciating all Legacy servers would be good for me in any way, shape, or form.  I am trying to remind people why discussions are useful in the first place.  You have discussions to decide what the frigg to do.  If the decision is already made, the discussion is pointless because you are basically screaming into a vacuum (not that anyone is necessarily screaming).  If the dialogue goes somewhere for the Legacy folks, great!  If there is nothing to do but wait for the axe to fall, we as a community should really end the discussion and let those folks enjoy their time.

very true my friend I stand for the ppl!!!!that inhabit our communities we are players too some old some new but same as officail.nothing different except no support. duped items ? haha on Officail.crazy god like dino/creatures? haha even more on official .theres hundreds of players on on the legacy clusters. not all even know about these forums to stand up for themselves in this wonderful topic:) we are the cheaper cluster no support means less $$ spent on all the compliants we have learned to just bite the bullet. its a survival game ...survive..   I keep quoting that community crunch 135 for one reason us vets that play ur game with the bugs/glitches without support we were told this by wildcard. so whats the big deal  .......you tell someone something do it don't lie or go back on your words what else do we the legacy community have besides that? I have my first doed to this day.thats close to 12k hours of gameplay with a dino that was a poop lvl 60 doed lol but I mejo tamed him for hours!!! butt naked in the cold harsh environment we call the ark.i have my first paracerthium that I tamed on scorched earth when the dlc dropped that's just a few my point is those hundreds of players have the same ide bet .Wildcard you made a awesome game for real but .if you keep braking the trust of the community u wont have one for long stand by what you said leave us a few servers let us play the game in peace . ive been raided/kited imprisoned on pve no need for support ive handled it.and ive been thinking a lot about this lately why do I hold onto this stuff/game? I don't want to spend another 12k or so hours again doing it lol .and thanks @TheDonn :)but yes I doagree we legacy/and official need a buttwipin because population is low on both I check trust me im a nerd in a non wining battle to save my home on ark just simple scrolling down in the server menu will tell the truth lol look at each cluster @Cedric leave us few servers would ya and we will buy all content with out all the $$ needed for support hint hint even after is it 3 years or so give or take we are still here and enjoy the bugs/glitches savagery of the place called ark hell haha most of the ppl complaining wouldn't have made it 1 week in alpha beta stage in the game woulda quit and played something else^^

 

[Lycan187u]

5 hours ago, GreenRoc said:

I stopped playing Legacy when someone had built a 4-high, 12+ wide wall of BEHEMOTH gates on PvE Aberration (I am not kidding) blocking off the path I took daily between needed resources and my home base...

and GMs would not remove it because "Legacy".

sorry to hear that bud but these situations can be handled threw diplomacy or or other means hehe >:) a good community will get rid of that toxicness  

[TheDonn]

33 minutes ago, Lycan187u said:

most of the ppl complaining wouldn't have made it 1 week in alpha beta stage in the game woulda quit and played something else^^

 

Oh Lycan, I got several thousand hours on legacy servers back from July '15.  Seen a lot of wonky poop in this game, been PvE-wiped with a Titanosaur back when PvE was a griefer's paradise, got pillared in before they did anything about it and all base expansion halted.  I ditched PvE Legacy Island37/SE757/Rag to move to official and landed on SE55, cold start, slogged through crap to get my first eggs with many deaths, just restarted again to see if I could do it.  Been on Official since, on various servers.  Pre-Breeding, Pre-Redwoods, Pre-SE, I played.  It is miles and miles better now than it was then to play ARK.  Plus you can actually kill the Broodmother...  Remember that poop?  Alpha Broodmother did like, 2500 damage a hit and would wipe an army of 35K boss Rexes with decent saddles (85+) in about 3 minutes?  So terrifying.  We took an old line of ~75 armor saddle, 30K HP and I think 600-700 melee Rexes and fought Beta, just to see how the old stats would do and I think we lasted about 5 minutes before half the army was dead.

I am not saying this because that was better.  That wasn't intended and she was waaay overtuned, and has since been adjusted.  Many things have changed though, just reminiscing, and taking a second to PERSONALLY express that I appreciate the changes to the game to this point.  There is still plenty to piss and moan about, but at least its better than it was.  So, I hear ya!

[Lycan187u]

5 minutes ago, TheDonn said:

Oh Lycan, I got several thousand hours on legacy servers back from July '15.  Seen a lot of wonky poop in this game, been PvE-wiped with a Titanosaur back when PvE was a griefer's paradise, got pillared in before they did anything about it and all base expansion halted.  I ditched PvE Legacy Island37/SE757/Rag to move to official and landed on SE55, cold start, slogged through crap to get my first eggs with many deaths, just restarted again to see if I could do it.  Been on Official since, on various servers.  Pre-Breeding, Pre-Redwoods, Pre-SE, I played.  It is miles and miles better now than it was then to play ARK.  Plus you can actually kill the Broodmother...  Remember that poop?  Alpha Broodmother did like, 2500 damage a hit and would wipe an army of 35K boss Rexes with decent saddles (85+) in about 3 minutes?  So terrifying.  We took an old line of ~75 armor saddle, 30K HP and I think 600-700 melee Rexes and fought Beta, just to see how the old stats would do and I think we lasted about 5 minutes before half the army was dead.

I am not saying this because that was better.  That wasn't intended and she was waaay overtuned, and has since been adjusted.  Many things have changed though, just reminiscing, and taking a second to PERSONALLY express that I appreciate the changes to the game to this point.  There is still plenty to piss and moan about, but at least its better than it was.  So, I hear ya!

I dunno why I rambled on like that wasn't directed at u:D I actually appreciate it bud not many ppl wanna hear about us ark boomers left in legacy these days lol just wipe wipe wipe lo

[GreenRoc]

2 hours ago, Lycan187u said:

sorry to hear that bud but these situations can be handled threw diplomacy or or other means hehe >:) a good community will get rid of that toxicness  

Unless they dont talk to you, and I dont believe in revenge. Been playing on Wildcard's pve servers since 2015 as well. The behemoth wall was more of a last straw for me, not the only drop in the bucket, not the first rodeo with issues on these servers. I still play on official pve today... I wish they would stop updating during breeding events, it's like 6 restarts now, grrr.

Legacy became unplayable for me for many reasons, not just the one. Some of the things other players did was stuff I had no good counter/alternative. Revenge is bad so that isnt an option in my book. The verbal hostility (with ptsd triggered by certain words) on top of that wall, and even more more garbage that I haven't verbalized here. Nowadays I just keep the chat closed. I fail hard at diplomacy because my social skills are in line with fellow autists, so would heavily clash with most of the rest of the world, so I wouldnt even try.

Legacy saves were a blessing, so I still have all my lovely beauties to keep playing with.

Edit to add: I remember I started playing when scorpions were new, and before doeds and the fiber picking gorrilla. Fastest way to cather stone was by hand. I still remember seeing many of my tribemates just running around on foot spamming E, as our tribeleader struggled to park the argent in a good floating position inside their pen, as well as making sure every single tame had food in it, because Food troughs werent in the game when I started.

[SlipperySquid]

On 12/21/2019 at 3:41 PM, GreenRoc said:

Edit to add: I remember I started playing when scorpions were new, and before doeds and the fiber picking gorrilla. Fastest way to cather stone was by hand. I still remember seeing many of my tribemates just running around on foot spamming E, as our tribeleader struggled to park the argent in a good floating position inside their pen, as well as making sure every single tame had food in it, because Food troughs werent in the game when I started.

Pretty sure the anky + rock topia or river rocks was the best for stone gathering even when gathering by hand was a thing+you got good flint at the same time.

[GreenRoc]

15 hours ago, SlipperySquid said:

Pretty sure the anky + rock topia or river rocks was the best for stone gathering even when gathering by hand was a thing+you got good flint at the same time.

Indeed. We had one Anky, and five tribemembers, the anky was usually being used getting metal. The plucking rocks was faster where we were, lots of rocks. Before there was kibble, a 13 (18?) hour mejoberry tame for an anky. That tame was what brought me into the game, I wanted to help my friend tame it, and he was falling asleep Zzz..

[Moldylegs]

I think i will see out the Legacy servers before i move over kicking and screaming to the new official servers. I have enjoyed spending so many hours on them i cant bring myself to discard them like yesterdays newspaper and saver what time there is left on them and try to recall all the multitude of people and their tribes that I played alongside for the last 5 years that made it such a great game through countless glitches and server crashes as it slowly evolved.  

[Lycan187u]

2 hours ago, Moldylegs said:

I think i will see out the Legacy servers before i move over kicking and screaming to the new official servers. I have enjoyed spending so many hours on them i cant bring myself to discard them like yesterdays newspaper and saver what time there is left on them and try to recall all the multitude of people and their tribes that I played alongside for the last 5 years that made it such a great game through countless glitches and server crashes as it slowly evolved.  

Totally agree. 

[Helsel89d]

No need for new servers or modes. Just fix meshing and duping then wipe the game. The only players you'll lose are the toxic players anyhow. Will probably bring other good players back.

[telausblade]

I stay on my legacy cuz i have played the character for longer i have good set of dinos and dont see a reson to leave my hard work with no way to quickly get it back on a new server

[Samuelam]

We stay on legacy because 

1 we are a smaller community and we have more freedom this way

2 precisely the reason we do not get support, when someone steals our inventory or takes our eggs you guys do nothing, because taking eggs and stuff from your inventory is not against the code of conduct, and if a wyvern was on your inventory in a cryopod they took your wyvern instead of kiting it and killing it, it now becomes their dino, so we kite them and take our stuff back

And 

3 we can not transfer our characters to official, we spend years defeating every alpha boss and you want us to transfer to official with absolutely nothing?

Gigas take 14 real life days to raise and I have 30 raised gigas, you do the math we don't want to go to official because we would have to start over and we already did everything.......this game take hours to do just one thing and we spent years over here on legacy now.... You should have wiped legacy servers upon release of the game, now you are loosing players because of it

[AdcfTM1234567678]

 Immediately following the closure of legacy servers, we will be providing the save files from those servers for you to download.

whats Devs mean?

[FeyreC]

I just saw that legacy servers were being wiped completely in place for more official servers. I have been playing since this game was in beta and the only reason I have continued to play is because of PVP legacy servers. I have tried playing on official for several years but ultimately transferred and have enjoyed legacy much more. Legacy PVP servers provide smaller tribes that still enjoy PVP without ridiculous mods to enjoy the game.  Smaller tribes can not thrive or even survive on official servers with open transfers. Mega tribes scout all official servers to kill and wipe any growth from other tribes even on lower population ones. Too many times, I have tried joining official servers to only have some person from a mega tribe transfer over and kill me on spot. Other times, I had a few days of peace to only lose everything after less than a week. I can never hope to survive on official servers unless open server transfers are taken away to prevent abuse from scouting mega tribes. I have tried modded servers as well but PVP aspects have been a disappointment as well as the constant boosted rates, etc. that make the game bore quickly. So now, I leave this community. I will not buy genesis because everything that I enjoyed about legacy servers is being taken away and any transfer over to official servers will just end up in constant wipe from mega tribes. All of my tribe mates are quitting the game as well and the few that bought genesis are seeking refund. I have several friends that were interested in playing ark with me and now I am telling them not to waste their time in buying such a game if it only means being wiped by mega tribes or playing PVE, etc. no PVP aspects. I am not sure this will help future growth of the game as in order to continue to expand more servers will need to be added in the future regardless or other official servers will need to be wiped.  

[Aghajili]

Hiiii, i play 4 years in legacy servers(cluster 4,6,10) , why u want close legacy???
We spent a lot of time building and taming animals, as well as unlocking tek.

I have 2 question:

1_We can transfer to wich servers???

2_when we can transfer to others servers???

[FreakendWarrior]

Wiping SmallTribes and Or Official is a huge Mistake. Thousands of Players will be massively discouraged from continued play because why put all that time in again. Also people who say it will give new player a chance at playing are deluded. Megatribes will Take over all sever again just as it is now. So why bother. Why ruin the work of thousands of hours to repear the process?

[AXEHOLE]

I think  if you did a POLL< asking the community from all servers  what they would rather,   NEW content,  or Just fix Crap  so that it works right. (like that is ever going to happen).  You would get an Overwhelming Majority telling you to just fix the fundatmentals of the game.  

I GUARANTEE  you would LOSE  a lot less players as well.

#1, I have nearly 5000 hours on ark.  and I have 3 kids that play or have played at various times.

#2  I played stomping lands B4 ark, and was in on the beta for ark since begining.

#3 I own, Island, centre, Scorched, ragnarok, valguerro, extinction, aberration  season pass, and Primitive Plus.

 

I will do my best to make this brief, although there is a LOT of info here.

I have played on all those expansions, etc listed above.  since the begining of time ark has run,   and here are some of my Insights into ark.  game developers, Mods, Admins  . whoever you all are that run this crap.

I spend a lot of money, on this game, and Expansions,  season pass etc. this *ENTITLES* me to customer Support,, I am a PAYING Customer.   but *IN MY GAMING EXPERIENCE With Ark / Wildcard* 
That has NOT mattered one Freaking bit.   EVERY SINGLE  support ticket I have ever posted  has been Denied,  or ignored,   I mean,  I have tickets 4 years ago.  that I never once got an email or reply to.  not even a Courteous HEY WE GOT YOUR MESSAGE MAN!!

On Official servers,  Pve, mode,  i played on several servers  (a rather long while ago,)  we were PLAGUED by tribes that pillared off areas,  put up foundations to block metal spawns,    Vast areas  covered   and to Prevent  Me ( and other players) from expanding or growing out tribes  our building sites were often blocked off around us, so we oculd not expand any farther.   They look for new joiners / players to the server and block in your thatch buildings so you can't grow.   

I put in countless tickets  about this,  with others form my tribes, and server who all played together,  I never once received an answer or ever recall a GM coming online to do anything.  after more than a year, 

I played on PVP>  OFFICIAL servers,  where listerally  several servers  ive played on,  My entire tribe was wiped  by Alphas fnot just from other servers but other nationalitys.  Spanish, chinese, Br's,  just to name a few,, Came in and wiped numerous servers  over and over,    Soimetimes  setting up bases around all the obelisks and plant X, gun turrets  heavys  etc etc  so no one can transfer in equipment pets, etc.   There are Metal Spike walls,  around Spawn points  so when you log in, you are spiked to death instantly and lose all your shyt.  this is STILL HAPPENING  AT THE PRESENT TIME  ON MANY SERVERS>

I have seen ALPHAS occupy a server for more than 2 Yrs.  Logging in on weekends and what not,  taking players hostage in cages and doing round the clock Narc'ing so we can't respawn new toons,  etc.  

This is NOT once a while  this happens, this is Nearly a daily basis.  in my experience on probably more than  a Dozen servers I have played on  over the last 5 yrs or what not.

And then legacy servers..

I have played on legacy on at least 1 server  and at times 4-5  since the Beta.    and Although there are alphas that do come on and wipe entire servers,  even though we screwed for support completely  by the company we are still PAYING<   with the same hard earned money  everyone else is using.    we get Fluffed over  time and time again.

 

I got some news for you,   We pay same CASH  as everyone else..   we are on OFFICIAL SERVERS<<   they belong to wild card  or what not,  and are your officially released game,  your officially released Expansion modules etc.

what you are doing is NOT about Keeping customers happy,, its about FORCING your customer base,  To move to new products and Expansion  so you can keep taking their fricken money.  IF  YOU EVER  HAD ANY*** INTENTION to keep your Customers happy,   you would have stopped just randomly adding dinos  every month  5 yrs ago, and actually fixed your game engine, and lag issues, and Disconnects,  and fixed falling through landscape and Meshing  Issues  THAT STILL EXIST TO THIS DAY.

I play WOW<  world of warcraft for more than 15 yrs,  and HAPPILY PAID 14.99$ canadian  Per month,  month after month, year after year.. BECAUSE THEIR PRODUCT WORKS>

THEY BAN Game abusers,  hackers, Bullies Those who are there to Lessen the game experience of others.

I Played Global MU online for probably 12 yrs +  Paying for Items and buffs as I went  adding up inot the 1000's of dollars over the years,

I played  SWTOR    star wars the old republic,  Again,  MORE than 10--12 yrs,,  purchasing items,  buffs,  etc In  the Ingame  sHops.. 

These are just a COUPLE of the games i have played,  for years,  not to mention  EVERY SINGLE  Need for speed game and movie ever released,   All the Gran turismo's. PS

Battle fields, Medal of Honours,  Half life,  etc etc

One of the patterns Is that I have been  a LOYAL paying Fan  of these other games  for some more than 20 years.  Because  they work,  they support their customers,  they ban hackers,  they ban abusers,  THEY DO THE WORK  to make the Game Great.
They dont just throw up some Weekend Boosted XP  and tell players to go screw themselves.

 

I PAID for your game, So i can indulge MY SENSE of Entertainment.  To raise baby dinos,  to build bases. and breed new Dinos to see how big and strong and high level i can make them.   This is MY  entertainment that I am paying for.

JUST SO THAT Some Dumbass Weekend warrior can unload 100's of C4 and rockets  and him and his pot smoking group of fuktards can go and wipe out 3 yrs of work,, While im Offline   and then when I submit a ticket  I get told  we don't offer customer support on legacy servers.

AND the best one of all,   You need to submit a recent screen shot,  of your pet.  Proving that it exists,  Other wise  Lost, destroyed, killed pets, ETC  will not be replaced.

Are you freaking kidding me ?   I have baby rexes, lvl 392, to 420,   and Breed then Enmass,  I don't take screenies as each one is born then update them all each day.

 

YOU Abuse, and neglect  your customer base, and come up with lame azz exscuses for why you cannot support your product / services,  and give your paying customers a pat on the aback   once in a while.

I LOVE legacy servers  and in all honestly  ive been raided like 30 times in the last 7 - 8 months, and I have managed, to save my baby rexs, and manas, and wyverns, and almost lvl 300 Quetzels.   and after being wiped,  move to a new spot, or a new sever, or a new base and ENTIRELY start over again,, COUNTLESS times.

 

So since i am  ABSOLUTELY  one of your MOST LOYAL fans,  Since I have stuck through all the crap for more than 5 YRS now.  Since i have gone through Countless Loss,  and tried nearly every game mode over and over   here is what would make me happy.

 

you DONT need 100% of your servers updated to new ones. thats just a LOAD of crap.. HALF your *official* servers  are empty most of the time,  then when  you add Expansion or other modes, you get a Burst of players for 30 days ?? MAYBE 60 if your lucky  and then they are Empty again.

 

Leave a certain % of servesr as Legacy,  of each game mode,  aberation, extinction, ragnarok, island, centre, SE

FIND SOME WAY<  that Legacy players can copy,  move, Upload  their dinos and key Items and Move them to a new   *Official server*  If they so wish to do that.  AFTER 3 Yrs on Legacy,  Breeding my rexes up to level 420 babies, with 38K Health, and 1250% melee dmg. with 2000+ Stam  etc  Why should I have to watch them all get deleted  and POOF<  so that I can move to an  *Official*  server  to start with absolutely nothing,   and have  LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON on that server  abuse the shyt out of you. because you have nothing.   At least  Being able to move with my dino's  I have some Defense.. I have some means  to get metal . stone,   make  a descent base  within a matter of hours,, not a matter of days.

Change all of your Game modes to FREE Expansions,    YUP<  A  One time purchase gets you ALL Modes, expansions of ark  So whatever it is 49.99$  and you get ALL ARK games / expansions.  THEN<

Charge a flat Rate fee,   5.99 Month,  9.99 $ a Month.  (not more,  your game simply isn't worth that much)   THEN  After people start subscribing,, offer some REAL CUSTOMER SUPPORT ACROSS ALL REALMS>  Because My 79.99$  in cash is the same value  as the guy who plays official vs legacy,  YOu cant pick and choose to support some cutomers and not  others/

You boost DmG   for caves  etc  right ?   why not support a More Fair  PVP alternative.   Something like this.

When you are offline,  the Damage you take is dropped By like 90%  and the dmg your pets,  turret  etc infict is boosted another 50% or something.  This will help make raiders  really have to pay,  and bust their butts to raid someone offline.  and OFC  You can't be in the middle of a Fight and try to OFFLINE  to save your azz... not fair.

To those  jerks and Alphas.   who INSIST on consitantly raiding  OFFLINE players / tribes,  They will be given a DEBUFF<  where they will take an extra 100% Dmg  for a set duration of time,    so while they are out Bullying  those tribes  who have 3-4 guys, and totally wipe all their dinos etc.  and destroy every base,  every box, vault and everything they own,  they must also take a risk.    and as they Raid more  and more offline players,   Kill more dinos,     their DEBUFF weakens them more and more so that they take more dmg   maybe 500% more damage  from all sources.

THEN  when that tribe logs in,  that has 2 or 3 players,  who doesnt Spend 30 people, 10 hours a day farming gunpowder and metal,    they can go and ACTUALLY retaliate.  Vs those  who abused / bullied  etc.  

Even out the battle field for those we don't spend all their time on ark  stockpiling to wipe out everyone else for no reason.

Go back to making things  Simple man.   ARK  island / Centre  was for  Dinos  and primitive type of play,, KEEP IT THAT WAY> 

Stop allowing Cross Dino Contamination.   

IF wyvern are in SE and Rag,  Extinction.  Leave them there.  Do not allow  moving  cross modes.  If TEK is allowed  Aberation and Extinction,  LEaVE it on those two game modes.

I can't tell you how many times  On Ragn  My base,  Golems,  Gigas,  Rexs  have been wiped out By Meks and Rail guns and other Tek crap.. its frustrating...  

If you tame a TITAN<  on Extinct  It should STAY on extinction.  etc etc.

then by doing so,  Players  who have  Rexs and Gigas,  will only have to fight  Vs.  Rexes and Gigas.    and So forth.   

You  simply CANNOT  make a base on ragnarok thats going to witthstand  Meks, and Tek gear  assaults.  

So those who like tek  can go play tek,  those that like more oldschool  can do their thing.

 

 

This is really what gets  me  this   Makes my head explode...

I pay the same as everyone else.  and all I want to do  is raise my dinos,, build a cool a base.   THATS   MY<<< thing.  but I hvae to Tolerate.   Idiots  quite frankly,  because they grew up on a free internet that Promotes Obscurity, and Anonymity   no one knows  who they are,, where they are,,, So they can say/  do anything they like.  Mentality.  Heres the problem.  I pay the same amount of money  to enjoy your game  the WAY  i enjoy it.. and all they do  Is destroy  the beauty  of what other people Create.  Why s hould i have to be subjected to online bullying,  and harrassment  because you can't support the people who buy your products ???

 

LASTLY 

I cannot tell you,  words Cannot express   how much  I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE   *the IDEA  Of This game  ARK*

But you have dropped the ball  so many times,  and ignored Sound.  Professional  BUSINESS~!!!!  this game COULD BE  beyond Amazing,  SPECTACULAR     and go down into the HIstory of  Best video games  ever.  But  you guys keep ignoring the basics,  fix the bugs,  get rid of the  Game exploits,  Meshing among other things.    Balance the PVP system so It cannot be abused, by the bullys, hackers, and Griefers,   Back in the BETA of ark, I would fall through the floor of my house  and drown in the water Underneath.. IT STILL DOES THAT<   5+ yrs later.. WHO DOES THAT???   Seriously,, what Company out there,  has such HUGE  Glaring bugs, glitches etc,  and Completely Ignores it,  so they can launch a new dino!! Or a new 2x  XP event..  

IF YOU WANT PAYING CUSTOMERS S GIVE THEM WHAT THEY PAY FOR>

RULE #1  SUPPORT YOUR DAM CUSTOMERS    plain and simple,,   then they keep coming back,  Your losing people.   having server populations DROP dramatically because people are tired of you NOT doing your JOBS      to be CLEAR     without PAYING  CUSTOMERS    You have NO JOB>

#2  YA  i KNOW ITS PVP server,  but your PVP  if F*********      do something to FIX it.   balance it.  In ALL THE YEARS ive played ARK  i have LITERALLY  been online 2x  when i was raided  out of like 200  Times  Ive been raided and wiped out. i have been online  to dfend myself 2X>..    and BOTH of those times   i was outmanned,  out gunned and could do almost NOTHING  to stop them from raiding me,< BUT   both times,   i packed up my best pets,, flyers  etc, and the BPS  items i wanted most  and walked away  while they destroyed everything.     They don't do it  to get items or dinos  for the most part, I have screen shots of people  typing ot me in chat,  on how much they do it,, JUST  for the FUN of killing Peoples pets they have worked so hard for.. 

Your PVP is broke,, ffs   Do something  with it..

 

I would be happy  to pay your company more money, if you actually did ANYTHING  tha tmattered  to fix the game.  make it more playable,  more balanced  and I would KEEP playing  it  for years,, without MORE DINOS and More XP event.s.   Just leave me the Fark  alone  to play   but No you gota keep deleting my servers and wiping my pets.

 

I have ranted a raved enough.. so tired of this  Crap..   if you want peoples money,, Treat them like you give a CRAP and they will be appy to give you Money.

I have been loyal to this game SINCE day one.  and I am finally FED UP  with the bull crapoola    If you guys don't fix this crap  im Out!

 

[PrinceCursed]

We are a lot of people who play in Legacy 935, we have established beautiful relationships and fortunately we all get along. After more than thousands of hours a day we will have to log in and lose everything, because you have to open new servers where nobody will ever play. You give us the way to download the data, but what do we do with it? We want to play where we are. Playing knowing that one day we will be canceled makes the urge go away. If this is a good way for you to hold back the players, you are WRONG. And if I lose everything, you will no longer have our cent.