stevealicious Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Hello, My tribemate and I are avid otter breeders and we are at a point with the project where we would like to mutate the 47+ stats we have. Our count of wild tamed females was over 250 the last time I checked and all would be used for mutations. Considering we will have so many "shoulder pet" dinos down, we are worried we will be violating the Code of Conduct, specifically the following portion:Intentionally filling the server tame limit via spamming tames (such as Dodo, Jerboa, or easy to ‘tame and maintain’ dinos) and/or rafts There have been reports on the forums here for tribes receiving punishment via wipes for large quantities of other shoulder dinos like glowpets, but its hard to distinguish fact from fiction in an open forum like this. It would be devastating to lose all that hard work between stats (300+ level clean) and event colors. Would love to hear some feedback on this topic, if any mods or GM's have some input that would be appreciated too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaprosuchus Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 i have no answer for you but i think you breeding super otters is awesome and i approve of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 250+ otters !! o . O And I thought my small otter farm of about 10 to 15 otters was alot to handle lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSacra Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 It is perfectly OK for someone to have 100 rex, but I have seen reports on here and reddit with tribes being wiped for breeding 50 pets. I believe it has to do with the GM who responds to the ticket. If that GM likes otters, you are safe. I giggle while I write this, but also shake my head because I firmly believe it to be truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogero Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I am in the same situation with my vultures, when I read the post before about wiping tribes for light pets I cryod most of mine. Would be good to hear a GM here , maybe breeding for mutations with many dinos is not ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSacra Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rogero said: I am in the same situation with my vultures, when I read the post before about wiping tribes for light pets I cryod most of mine. Would be good to hear a GM here , maybe breeding for mutations with many dinos is not ok? All of my event vultures are in cryo. Same with jerboa, monkeys and everything else. I am waiting for someone from a large tribe that the devs hangs out with to run into an issue. Once that happens, maybe they will clarify the wording and or enforcement ? A tribe at tame cap can continue breeding all day long, as long as they manage their cap. Someone with 100 dinos has to worry about breeding 20 jerboa, because a dev might wipe their base. Something just does not feel right about that. I cannot put my finger on it, but something just does not seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 24, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 24, 2019 I have only heard of one instance where a tribe was wiped for spam-breeding small pets. Nobody knows the details of that event but the CoC staff. I wouldn't for a second listen to anything a rando on the internet who just got dev wiped has to say. I know they do investigate and perform due diligence on the issue. Here's the deal. I'm pretty sure it's easy for the CoC guys to distinguish between a tribe that is legitimately breeding dinos for stats/colors and one that is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arathein Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 @stevealicious I"m with you, though I am only at just around 200 otters myself. Anyone who has otters knows they are not easy to maintain. Only eating fish, have a consumption rate similar to a giga for their base food stat. You have to feed them twice a week if you want to ensure they don't starve. But yea I am in the same boat, I had to unpod all of mine so I could get a good count and be able to pod them with the current pod logic (they were podded before the pods even showed stats) and to let them get off CD. I put billboards up around them hoping not to get reported, and the server was not capped when I had them out. But yea it is a gamble. If I were you I would reach out to support and get a direct response from them on the situation or maybe Jen or Cedric could direct you to an answer quicker. Unfortunately though even if Jen/Cedric verified it is fine, I have found that CoC items that leave room for interpretation can get interpreted differently depending on who has the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevealicious Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 Appreciate the support and feedback guys. I think there were some valid points made about CoC being able to distinguish between dino spamming vs legit breeding and as well as otters falling under the category of not being easy to maintain. Definitely feel a lot better about this and we'll probably make the arrangements to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowkyuubi Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I would say the ones that you are not currently breeding to store them in cryo pods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Otters are not easy to maintain due to eating only fish. Also not easy to tame. Not hard to tame either. More of a dead fish getting in the way glitchy tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, MIsterMayhem said: fear of spending thousands of hours into breeding to only have your tribe wiped for CoC reasons Why you you keep playing with this fear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted May 25, 2019 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, MIsterMayhem said: Let me ask you a simple question. Do you play on official servers. Or do you play on your own unofficial server? And in any case why would you, as a ark forum moderator, have anything to worry about as far as this goes? I doubt you will know the true fear of spending thousands of hours into breeding to only have your tribe wiped for CoC reasons. Without warning. Full dev wipe while offline. So again, beyond monitoring the post for your moderator reasons it’s hard to take your word for it. I’ve never played anything but officials. Playing on official PvP at the moment. I’ve spent thousands of hours on officials. I’ve never feared being dev wiped as I’ve never exploited the game. That said. If I did, being a volunteer moderator, not an employee of WildCard I can assure you I wouldn’t be treated any different than current cheaters are. Forgive me if I can’t be bothered if you take my word for it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, MIsterMayhem said: Let me ask you a simple question. Do you play on official servers. Or do you play on your own unofficial server? And in any case why would you, as a ark forum moderator, have anything to worry about as far as this goes? I doubt you will know the true fear of spending thousands of hours into breeding to only have your tribe wiped for CoC reasons. Without warning. Full dev wipe while offline. So again, beyond monitoring the post for your moderator reasons it’s hard to take your word for it. Forum mods arent employees of WC or anything. They're volunteers and just regular people. They dont get any special treatment ingame or anything lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 hours ago, arathein said: @stevealicious Unfortunately though even if Jen/Cedric verified it is fine, I have found that CoC items that leave room for interpretation can get interpreted differently depending on who has the case. This is the single biggest threat to anyone mass breeding pets. Jen can say its fine but the CoC team could interpret it as not and you will be wiped. Sure, they might investigate into it but with good enough stories (the people reporting you) its easy to get opinions skewed and bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMP Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Risking dev ire is a small price to pay for the numerous benefits seen from an otter breeding program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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