Cyclops Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 What's the point of lengthy cryo sickness in PvE? I can understand having the current cryo sickness mechanic for PvP servers, as you don't want massive spamming of dinos in the middle of a PvP fight. After being thoroughly frustrated with the cryo sickness mechanic in PvE I'm wondering why the timers are so long? The amount of time spent babysitting a dino accidentally deployed instead of actually playing the game is not fun Examples: - Rez sick buff runs to zero and you deploy another dino; but server lags and when it catches up it deploys the cryo pod while the buff is active. - You insert a empty cryo pod in hotbar, but it doesn't register the empty pod and still thinks the full pod in your inventory is in the hotbar; a rez sick dino is accidentally deployed. - Sometimes you just aren't paying attention to buff timer and deploy an dinosaur by accident. In all those cases you have to sit and babysit the dino that takes 10x damage when rez sick. The length of the timers on some dinos in PVE is INSANELY long. There should be nothing longer than 5 mins for PvE. I'm tired of losing dinos to server/game glitches that cause accidental cryo deployment; and tired of wasting my time waiting for the rez sick to wear off. REDUCE THE REZ SICK TIMERS FOR PVE, or even eliminate them outside of caves/boss areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Cryo sickness is only 5 minutes. Torpor timer is in many cases longer depending on the dino. You can stim them awake faster in that case. I think the 10x damage is only active during the 300 second countdown so after that your dino should just take the normal damage even if it's still KO'd. They probably don't have a mechanic to separate PvP to PvE timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 What's the point? Balance I would imagine. For official it makes sense. For unofficial there should be an .ini for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampeh Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Yeah I don't quite understand why pve has cryosickness either. Not a huge problem but would definitely be a great quality of life change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaprosuchus Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 There is no real reason other than they wanted to and it would be more work to seperate the change for pvp and pve. there isn't always a good reason for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamron Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 War mechanics. Same principal as PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 hours ago, yekrucifixion187 said: Cryo sickness is only 5 minutes. Torpor timer is in many cases longer depending on the dino. You can stim them awake faster in that case. I think the 10x damage is only active during the 300 second countdown so after that your dino should just take the normal damage even if it's still KO'd. They probably don't have a mechanic to separate PvP to PvE timers. My wording wasn't quite right; I was referring in part to the long torpor timers. After the 300 second rezsick countdown the dino should wake up. We shouldn't have to wait on the unreasonably long torpor on certain dinos. We don't often have stimberries on us either. Would prefer to see the mechanic removed for PvE, or at the very least have the dino fully awake after 300 seconds... it's just frustrating the way it is currently for PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb68 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, flamron said: War mechanics. Same principal as PVP. I agree, war mechanics, nothing like agreeing to combat with another tribe then having them spam 20 giga's on top of you cause no cryo sickness. Seems to be a logical reason. Separating it wouldn't be a hard thing to do, far as making it work differently in PvE/PvP, but then additional coding would have to be done to make it initiate for the war mechanics on PvE. Simpler just to leave it the way it is, and less possibility of additional bugs. It would however be nice to see a timer setting added for it for Non-Dedicated/Single Player, as in single player there really isn't a point to it. and on non-dedicated it could benefit them allowing them to increase / decrease the timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattare Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 To add a bit more challenge since the game is so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 hours ago, d1nk said: What's the point? Balance I would imagine. For official it makes sense. For unofficial there should be an .ini for it There already is an ini, even before Extinction came out. You have 2 separate settings that effect torpor, wild and tamed. 1 could simply adjust the tamed dino torpor drain if they really wanted to, but after throwing out 10 level 277 Rex’s with over 30000 torpor in quick succession and them waking up in a fraction of their normal full torpor time with the setting on default, I see no need to change it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArianaGaming Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Well as always, use it. Turn it to advantage. When something enjoys you stop doing it. It really sounds silly easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 It's so I can't deploy 50 brontos in ur base u will have time to trap me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 hours ago, SaltyMonkey said: There already is an ini, even before Extinction came out. You have 2 separate settings that effect torpor, wild and tamed. 1 could simply adjust the tamed dino torpor drain if they really wanted to, but after throwing out 10 level 277 Rex’s with over 30000 torpor in quick succession and them waking up in a fraction of their normal full torpor time with the setting on default, I see no need to change it personally. I meant .ini for the cryosickness timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Tattare said: To add a bit more challenge since the game is so easy. ummm, cryopod, Gachas and kibble simplification would not have happened if people wanted a harder game. Simply waiting for them to wake up is the biggest challenge, just raise Gigas, they are up before the cryosickness is over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 Once again another dino lost to rez sickness on the PvE server. Even though I had an empty cryopod in hotbar, ark thought I still had the previous cryopod in the hotbar. Went to freeze a dino and it deployed the previous dino I froze. In the wastelands on extinction and a corrupted giga comes by and kills my rez sick giga that takes 10x the damage. I was on an argy and couldn't deploy any other dino to kill the corrupted giga because it would be REZ SICK too. This mechanic is IRRITATING on PVE servers. I understand it on PvP, but it's annoying on PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiztidwoundz Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 After the dino recovers from cryo sickness, just pod em back up and deploy them in the safety of your base to wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkark Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Twiztidwoundz said: After the dino recovers from cryo sickness, just pod em back up and deploy them in the safety of your base to wake up. Should be like that, however with some dinos is pretty tricky to cryopod while k.o.'d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpcab Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 U want pve even more easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukushu Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 People could just take out whole armies at an OSD, that's just stupid. Why can't you guys just be happy to have Cryos? The time without them was just horrible. Having a job while playing this game was nothing a normal person could manage. the small 5 minute timer is nothing compared to what it was before without cryos. Be happy for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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