dillypoopee Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Im sure most of the ark community knows at this point just how stupid manas are... and if not, here are some of the reasons why 1. fastest land mount 2. one of the highest dps in game 3. ranged beam that spans about 40 foundations+ 4. the beam freezes targets extremely quickly and continues to to damage while you are frozen 5. Manas are the fastest air tame as well, the only creature even close would be a wyvern (and wyvs actually have weaknesses unlike the manas...) . 6. Can dash side to side up and down in the air. This is commonly used to spam jump up and down on people to kill them easily. 7. are EXTREMELY fast underwater 8. Can be dismounted in water to regain full bar of stam 9. Most breeding lines will well surpass 10k health 10. Can have SADDLES (many alphas deck em out with 100+ armor saddles) 11. This saddle can hold 2 people... 12. Can be Bred, imprinted, and mutated 13. and the list keeps going So here we have a tame that dominates all fields of play except for tanking turrets. In which case why would you even tank when you could block entire tames by exploiting platform saddles (but that is a whole other rant). This Creature literally completely ruined any type of pvp in ark. And i dont see why the devs think this is ok. One of the beautiful things about this game is that every dino has a purpose and you could tell the devs liked that with their TLC passes etc. But all of that work into TLC's is down the drain now because all of Mid to end game on any ark server is legit Manas and more manas. Stupidest thing thats ever been added to ark by a long shot. Titans.. meh whatevs. ez to defend if you have a mana or two that can pump out thousands upon thousands of damage onto anything it wants.... Something really needs to get done about these things. Nerf them into the ground if you need to. Sorry for rant but from a players perspective, its just stupid that developers of a game this large, add something this broken, and continue to let it stay broken to most likely get more money off of extinction... Edit: I made an account just to post this because thats how much it sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodking194 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 They r not super op this is extinction they r meant to be op for titans and osd’s and element veins what did you mean expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I think ice beam needs an adjustment. Not a nerf - just the damage comes from being on a target for longer (good for pve, easier for pvp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodking194 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I do agree the damage per second or what ever is a bit to fast but to level it out they made the damage considerably low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aetherson Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 And remember they are dumb AF. Set on agressive and long range targeting, they will just wanish in a few seconds, best luck to find them out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodking194 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I put a tracking thing on them infact all my creatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 6:28 PM, Kodking194 said: They r not super op this is extinction they r meant to be op for titans and osd’s and element veins what did you mean expect Manas aren't OP for any of those things though, Kod! For OSD above yellow, you'd need to go ALL HP (because of the amount of time you spend attacking in melee), which means you would do hardly any damage. You can't use the breath close to the actual OSD, so the breath is effectively useless because you can't reliably nuke things quickly from range before more things mob all over the drop, and start trashing it. This makes Manas on OSDs essentially Thylacoleos with a slightly lower base damage (M - 35 VS T - 40) and a bit more base HP (M - 825 VS T - 700). For Element Veins, again you are hamstringed by the breath-attack damage falloff paired with the core of the Vein blocking the actual effect of the breath unless you are right on top of an enemy. Once again, you are on basically a Thylacoleo with slightly lower base damage and a bit more HP. For Titan killing you could say that they are OP I guess, but other methods that are more dependable at long range are better now because of, once again, that darn breath-attack damage falloff. So to do real damage you have to get pretty close to the Titan and risk getting chomped or tailslapped, or else face killing it taking forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonn Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 9:32 PM, d1nk said: I think ice beam needs an adjustment. Not a nerf - just the damage comes from being on a target for longer (good for pve, easier for pvp) So like a stacking debuff or something on the target that only serves to make it take increased damage from the breath attack as it stacks higher? That doesn't sound too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 hours ago, TheDonn said: So like a stacking debuff or something on the target that only serves to make it take increased damage from the breath attack as it stacks higher? That doesn't sound too bad. Exactly. I think it would fix most of the problems, while not nerfing it down for PvE content aswell. Its meant to be an agile mount so a skilled rider could still use it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miszu Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 They need nerf but if they got one pve players will be sad about that (nerf only good for pvp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson12 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Its a very very badly balanced tame and i dont know DILO wildcard are thinking, I suspect its another tool of theirs to put a nail of the coffin in to official servers so they don't have to keep funding them, get us on to unofficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodking194 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I use them for everything and don’t go getting up cause I say they r the best thing I use for those events I said they are op compared to other creatures cough cough reapers, drakes, even velanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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