Foxkid Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Please, I ask why was it a "great" idea to make something that has way too much mobility, a sniper's range on a freeze breath with a 10 second stun, and a dive that ignores all armor? Wyverns are bad to deal with, but at least they're slow as crap to balance out the stupid offense they have access to. Same with Gigas at least being locked to the ground, unlike these things that fly and do stupid amounts of damage as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodomaster420 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hello Wildcard if you are reading this, this does not apply to PVE, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipsnip Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I feel you on this mana issue. Very hard to pvp against when on a different mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxkid Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, dodomaster420 said: Hello Wildcard if you are reading this, this does not apply to PVE, thanks! How often are you dealing with ranged dinos, armor, and running away/mobility/encountering in pve though? It's clearly a pvp focused tame, and a straight problematic (and beyond broken) one at that. Plus, this applies to wild variants as well considering they share the same problems (especially the armor piercing dive with a radius 20ft' wide you're not escaping on foot or with most tames, including a Pteranodon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen00 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 The fix for this OPness is that occasionally you'll be despawned while riding one along with all your stuff >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClanTKC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Zen00 said: The fix for this OPness is that occasionally you'll be despawned while riding one along with all your stuff >_> LOL ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLLuSivE Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I play pve so idk about the pvp issues but as far as wild ones my dire bear wrecks them along with just about anything else lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photonicle Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 its a cute lil puddy cat, a dodo will kill one if not mounted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertymine Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Foxkid said: Please, I ask why was it a "great" idea to make something that has way too much mobility, a sniper's range on a freeze breath with a 10 second stun, and a dive that ignores all armor? Wyverns are bad to deal with, but at least they're slow as crap to balance out the stupid offense they have access to. Same with Gigas at least being locked to the ground, unlike these things that fly and do stupid amounts of damage as well. Maybe the fact that it looses fistfights to Carnos and Allos? Unlike Wyverns, who can go toe to toe with Rexes? Sure, their range is a little much, and probably needs to be changed, but the Mana can't hold its own in a 1V1 against a lot of other dinos. If you can get a good Giga or Rex on it, lights out. Any Mana that runs out of stam is also done for, so mounts that have good turning radius and decent speed like the Allo can out-maneuver them long enough to wear them out. Turrets also shred them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 i think wc was just running out of ideas for new tames, just look at the gasbagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Woodsman said: i think wc was just running out of ideas for new tames, just look at the gasbagger At least the gasbags is based off a real animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: At least the gasbags is based off a real animal the gasbagger is a real life animal? i dont think ive ever seen anything remotely close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast1124 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Woodsman said: the gasbagger is a real life animal? i dont think ive ever seen anything remotely close to it I think it's suppose to be a giant cateriillar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcreif Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Foxkid said: Please, I ask why was it a "great" idea to make something that has way too much mobility, a sniper's range on a freeze breath with a 10 second stun, and a dive that ignores all armor? Wyverns are bad to deal with, but at least they're slow as crap to balance out the stupid offense they have access to. Same with Gigas at least being locked to the ground, unlike these things that fly and do stupid amounts of damage as well. It's a great idea because I say so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxkid Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Qwertymine said: Maybe the fact that it looses fistfights to Carnos and Allos? Unlike Wyverns, who can go toe to toe with Rexes? Sure, their range is a little much, and probably needs to be changed, but the Mana can't hold its own in a 1V1 against a lot of other dinos. If you can get a good Giga or Rex on it, lights out. Any Mana that runs out of stam is also done for, so mounts that have good turning radius and decent speed like the Allo can out-maneuver them long enough to wear them out. Turrets also shred them. Freeze, Dive, Jump when freeze is about to wear off (or just perch on a cliff above a rex/allo/carno and spam freeze until armor breaks then dive on the rex/allo/carno once you get your stamina back until its dead. Not all that hard to achieve, and this is coming from someone who doesn't use them willingly (literally only if I don't have any other fliers to get around on). Turrets don't mean much if they can attack from outside the range of them set on long distance either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertymine Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Foxkid said: Turrets don't mean much if they can attack from outside the range of them set on long distance either. So force them to come closer. A Managarmr can't handle pressure. If all your tames are protected or covered, the Managarmr can't do anything unless its rider risks getting close enough to plant explosives. If the Managarmr can't hit land its ice breath, it's utterly useless in a fight. Anywhere with poor sightlines, from the Redwoods to the City are where the Managarmr underperforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Woodsman said: the gasbagger is a real life animal? i dont think ive ever seen anything remotely close to it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade Ark version is only slightly bigger lol, as is the case with many creatures in this game (I could be wrong, of course. But the resemblance is uncanny.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covenantgrunt Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Qwertymine said: So force them to come closer. A Managarmr can't handle pressure. If all your tames are protected or covered, the Managarmr can't do anything unless its rider risks getting close enough to plant explosives. If the Managarmr can't hit land its ice breath, it's utterly useless in a fight. Anywhere with poor sightlines, from the Redwoods to the City are where the Managarmr underperforms. The moment you leave your base you are dead. Managarmrs have force people to hide behind turrets all time instead of being able to go out and PvP griefers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade Ark version is only slightly bigger lol, as is the case with many creatures in this game (I could be wrong, of course. But the resemblance is uncanny.) The dossier agrees with this. Yes its only a little bit bigger than the tardigrade, just a little bit. From the gasbag dossier: "Wild It was always hypothesized that a member of the Tardigrada phylum would be the last species on Earth in the event of a global apocalypse, so in some ways, the existence of Mopsechiniscus fluitobesus is completely expected. Its size and method of travel, however? Less so." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcreif Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, covenantgrunt said: The moment you leave your base you are dead. Managarmrs have force people to hide behind turrets all time instead of being able to go out and PvP griefers. Go tame some! Then before you go get them killed, practice with them in single player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covenantgrunt Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Melcreif said: Go tame some! Then before you go get them killed, practice with them in single player ? Brah I have been in Mana fights, a lot. I play official PvP and no one is enjoying this Mana meta it's not fun at all. That is the problem. Pvping with rhinos, pteras, theris, reapers,.racers etc was fun. 20 Manas jumping around just no please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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