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31 minutes ago, InfernoRodan said:

It still boggles my mind that Griffins, Megalania, and Thylacoleo tame with Extraordinary kibble.  What, exactly, about them puts them in that tier?

 

This is what is called a strawman argument.  What you're suggesting would completely obliterate any semblance of progression in the kibble system.

Not really based on the arguments which were presented.

They are solutions and ideas to make the game easier for players.

That is what players want. They want to tame what they want easier.

And these are solutions to such matters.

 

It would be called the, "All in one kibble."

The "All in One" kibble basically takes any food ingredients of any quantity.

What kind of ingredients and the quantity of ingredients you put in to it affects the quantity and the quality of the kibble you get. 

The higher your crafting ability, the higher the quantity and quality of the kibble you get from the ingredients you put in.

In this way, players can tame dinosaurs with whatever food ingredients they have.

 

Obliterate any semblance in the progression in the kibble system? Don't we have that in the current kibble system?

"All in One Kibble" is the way to go to simplify the kibble system.

I buy "All in One" things all the time.

If players love easy and simplicity, they would love the "All in One" kibble.

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1 hour ago, InfernoRodan said:

It still boggles my mind that Griffins, Megalania, and Thylacoleo tame with Extraordinary kibble.  What, exactly, about them puts them in that tier?

Yeah, I don't know either. It confuses me as well, then again, I don't feel like either of those is all that insanely important, so whatever...

They DID however bump down the Karkinos from extraordinary to exceptional. Thanks for that. So you need Basilisk, Bronto, Giga, Quetz, Rex, Therizino or Yuty Eggs for it. It helps I guess, though it still seems to be quite high for "THE aberration farming companion". On second thought... The only dino of those that is actually native to aberration is the Basilisk. While Spinos NEED exceptional Kibble, their eggs only produce superior kibble according to the announcement list. That seems... rather not thought through to me? I think I'd like to see Spino eggs in the "produce exceptional kibble" list, same as the Megalosaurus... Maybe someone who plays more on aberration can comment on their relative strength?

Also, again: Since Tek dinos are a different species, and potentially a lot more powerfull than their normal variants, please consider again to bump them up a cathegory in the kibble list? That would flesh out the extraordinary cathegory, adding Tex Rexes and Tek Quetzals to it.

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Gabriel, you are deliberately cherry picking from the arguments that have been used- and there are plenty- to create an easily knocked-down strawman. This is called arguing in bad faith. What seeing this tactic tells me is that engaging further with you will not be productive.

RE: Spinos, definitely should produce exceptional kibble. This feels like an oversight- creatures producing eggs which tame the tiers below them, but not their own or higher, doesn't really serve a purpose from a progression standpoint. In this particular case, however, it serves to notably bottleneck Aberration only players: I would think a spino should be more readily obtainable before a rock drake. Or to be specific, before your first rock drake. 

RE: Extraordinary: These all seem to be "novelty" tames in some way. It's the only common thread I can see among them. That being said, Tek dinos are not inherently better than their flesh and blood counterparts, if my understanding of how they work is correct. Only if they both spawn at the higher levels they are capable of AND those stat rolls go into useful stats. 

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Yeah, creatures definitely shouldn't produce eggs lower than their kibble tier.  That brings me back to what I said in a previous post about my issues with the Extraordinary kibble tier: if you're going to leave Megalania in there, at least make its eggs Extraordinary as well.  That would also make producing Extraordinary kibble on the Island and Extinction much more reasonable because relying on Golden Hesperornis eggs on those maps (especially Extinction) feels pretty silly.

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On 3/6/2019 at 3:20 PM, Eldar Seer said:

[...] That being said, Tek dinos are not inherently better than their flesh and blood counterparts, if my understanding of how they work is correct. Only if they both spawn at the higher levels they are capable of AND those stat rolls go into useful stats. 

That is correct. Stats wise, they are really only worth it if they are above 150, and ideally have high specialized stats for breeding. Still, they have the potential to be quite a bit better than their normal versions, so why not make them a bit harder to get? It's not like this blocks anyone in the earlier stages of the game, you don't really need them that badly. They're "just higher level"

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Raising a megalania and it asked for Kibble (Camelsaurus Egg) instead of simple kibble when it wanted care during the imprinting process. This makes it near impossible to get full imprint buff unless one uses a mod to return to the old kibble tier system or use admin commands to spawn in the required kibble.

Please fix this major issue to have them ask for the new kibble, or remove from them wanting kibble during the imprinting.

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New kibble is out more than a week now.
Please fix babies asking for old kibbles which cannot be crafted anymore.
I know you can work around it by using cryo/uncryo until baby asks for something else, but this does not help when you have 20+ babies and cryo sickness kicks in.

Thank you.

EDIT: have this behavior on Scorched Earth, I am told babies on Center/Island ask for the new kibble system.

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Hello. I have a big problem on my server EU-Pve-Aberration220.

I started to raise a new huge batch of babies, and absolutely all of them continue to ask for the old kibbles ( or classic cuddle/walk). These babies hatched today or yesterday, and the eggs were fresh (not before kibble rework).

Why ? I can no longer imprint on them ! Am I the only one who has this problem ? My other friends are playing on Ragnarok and they don't have the problem, their babies ask for new things, like Berries for Rex ( lol? ). But me on Aberration, they babies seem to keep asking for old kibbles...

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Server: NA-PVE-Official-Aberration409

We have a large batch of new babies from parents that were bred after the kibble rework.
 - Spinosaurs, Velanosaurs, Iguanodons, Bulbdog, Featherlights, Paracertherium.

All of these babies are requesting the old kibbles.  We have tried using another kibble of the same quality to imprint, but it is not accepted.
Can this issue please be fixed swiftly?  We are running out of the old kibbles 😧

Thank you.

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21 hours ago, CHLOCH52 said:

New kibble recipes unbalanced. 

It costs more resources to make basic kibble than simle or regular kibble. Even though it might just be berries, it costs more resources to make a single kibble from a dodo egg than almost everything else.

My critters are eating it faster than I can make it now.

This is when you take a berry harvesting dino and go crazy in an area with it. I can get up to 800+ berries within a span of a few minutes without changing any of the settings that affects gathering

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