Why Don't People Put Turrets Inside Their Base?

[UnfairPepi]

In all the bases I have seen, I have never found a turret in somebodies base.  Lots of people raid these bases by just running up to them and quickly blasting the door before the turrets kill them, but if there were a bunch of turrets waiting for them on the other side of the door, all those people who raid others without mounts/soakers would have a much harder time raiding bases.

[Oli4]

Sounds like the bases you raid are owned by noobs

[FreelancerKnux]

I always have indoor turrets 

[Sphere]

Even on PvE I keep turrets inside the base. Especially if there is no roof.

[Baton]

if u want to defend like that then u need more turrets inside than outside that is bullpoop in practice

[SmokeyB]

Indoor turrets shoot your babies when they hatch .

By the time the enemy is inside your base , turrets or not you are wiped anyway..

 

 

[UnfairPepi]

2 hours ago, SmokeyB said:

Indoor turrets shoot your babies when they hatch .

By the time the enemy is inside your base , turrets or not you are wiped anyway..

 

 

Not if they are set to players only

[TheInverse]

1 hour ago, UnfairPepi said:

Not if they are set to players only

or you just turn them off before the babies born/hatched, then back on once its claimed. :///

[Sapper31]

Interior turrets are awesome especially when people think theyre in scot free

[Darkholis]

I like the idea of interior defenses but are a few concerns/issues I've noticed over the years:
- Hard limit of 100 turrets comes real quick and most people prefer to have maximum defense outside.
- Once the ennemy got inside, turrets or not, you're done.
- Interior turrets are usually poorly positionned anyways.
- Poor bases designs in general.
- Lack of creativity to support interior turrets. (See #4 below.)
- Poor turret settings.

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Here are a few additionnal points/details to consider.

1- When I scout a base prior to a raid, I use the low graphics trick to see the contents of the base, so I always know the exact position of the generator(s). Once the generator goes boom, interior autos are useless. They dropped a vault on their generator? Blow the foundation and you're gtg.

2- Turrets AI can be abused quite easily by dragging a corpse in front of them. Any dino large enough to conceal your character is enough to let you get inside and place C4 where needed without getting shot a single time.

3- Getting good flak armor and beer is not much of a problem nowadays. Unless you have dozens upon dozens of interior turrets, you won't stop a beer run.

4- Interior turrets are hardly supported by assets/defensive systems that would make them shine. In 3 years of active raiding, I've yet to see a tribe use bear traps, trip-wires, x plants inside their base to support their turrets. A static target is a dead target.

5- When you see turrets in "players only", just remember to disrupt their LOS. Can be by dragging a corpse or as simple as having a parasaur sitting in front of it.

6- Unless it's been fixed, for quite a long time, turrets were not targetting uncouncious/logged out players. This allowed me on countless occasions to "drop" into an ennemy base avoiding most turrets.

What I'd love to see regarding inteior defenses would be a flamthrower turret, since fire based attacks (in their current state) ignore all armor values.

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Ark is all about survival and adaptability.
Be creative with your defensive ideas as you are when raiding and you're in for a surprise.

Regards.

[Kaprosuchus]

I usually put a patch of bare earth with some ACs next to it indoors so people think it's my hatching area and fill it with buried purlovia.

[Baton]

10 hours ago, Darkholis said:

I like the idea of interior defenses but are a few concerns/issues I've noticed over the years:
- Hard limit of 100 turrets comes real quick and most people prefer to have maximum defense outside.
- Once the ennemy got inside, turrets or not, you're done.
- Interior turrets are usually poorly positionned anyways.
- Poor bases designs in general.
- Lack of creativity to support interior turrets. (See #4 below.)
- Poor turret settings.

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Here are a few additionnal points/details to consider.

1- When I scout a base prior to a raid, I use the low graphics trick to see the contents of the base, so I always know the exact position of the generator(s). Once the generator goes boom, interior autos are useless. They dropped a vault on their generator? Blow the foundation and you're gtg.

2- Turrets AI can be abused quite easily by dragging a corpse in front of them. Any dino large enough to conceal your character is enough to let you get inside and place C4 where needed without getting shot a single time.

3- Getting good flak armor and beer is not much of a problem nowadays. Unless you have dozens upon dozens of interior turrets, you won't stop a beer run.

4- Interior turrets are hardly supported by assets/defensive systems that would make them shine. In 3 years of active raiding, I've yet to see a tribe use bear traps, trip-wires, x plants inside their base to support their turrets. A static target is a dead target.

5- When you see turrets in "players only", just remember to disrupt their LOS. Can be by dragging a corpse or as simple as having a parasaur sitting in front of it.

6- Unless it's been fixed, for quite a long time, turrets were not targetting uncouncious/logged out players. This allowed me on countless occasions to "drop" into an ennemy base avoiding most turrets.

What I'd love to see regarding inteior defenses would be a flamthrower turret, since fire based attacks (in their current state) ignore all armor values.

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Ark is all about survival and adaptability.
Be creative with your defensive ideas as you are when raiding and you're in for a surprise.

Regards.

2nd fixed long time ago

[acat]

9 hours ago, Baton said:

2nd fixed long time ago

Are you sure? I know that turrets shoot through eggs now, but last time i checked i could crawl inside my dead deer and did not get shot. Its been a while, so id have to test again. And i noticed that one can only crawl though the corpses of small dinos, kentro for example is already too big.

Nr.6 was also fixed, i recently kicked a tribe member. He was offline and his body was infront of our turrets. He got killed by them as soon as he was kicked.

[SmokeyB]

14 hours ago, Baton said:

2nd fixed long time ago

I raided a base the other day , killed all the outside tames and the corpses blocked line of sight to the turrets so we could push up . It still works