Wraithhunter Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The gacha dropping such good ascended loot and so damn often like flak at such high dura and ascended shotguns with like 300 to 400 damage is completely destroying the balance of the pvp world and needs to be fixed and somehow take those items away from players that got them already, I’m talking about official pvp mostly, I can’t believe the devs even let this in the game, I could understand if it was a super rare thing but it’s so frequent. And also drops and loot crates haven’t been spewning on any maps on small tribes that I’ve been on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSwir1 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Its not a BP so its not so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraithhunter Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 I agree bp would be worse but it’s still bad if you play pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Wraithhunter said: I agree bp would be worse but it’s still bad if you play pvp Capture your own and make your own gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Olivar said: Capture your own and make your own gear? Unless its unintended, there are no supply drops on Extinction, except in the form of orbitals and Gacha crystals. Surely the best route to take is to tame your own army of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazardousbread Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Yea, the chance at this type of gear is available to everyone who bought the dlc so I don’t see it as op. Honestly it’s probably a selling point for wildcard. “Our map is broken but we have crazy good loot, please buy our dlc.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraxor Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, SaltyMonkey said: Unless its unintended, there are no supply drops on Extinction, except in the form of orbitals and Gacha crystals. Surely the best route to take is to tame your own army of them. so very wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbufu Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I kind of agree with the OP, even on PvE getting ~500/600% damage weapons and tools feels a little bit broken. Ill take what i can get in the mean while, but it kinda ruins the game if everything fall asleep with just 1 or 2 hits from your 550% longneck rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan187u Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 There's not a 550% longneck zzz there's weapon damage caps and armor caps on official even in pvp when the next server reset happens any weapon damage will be decrease to 298% damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyMonkey Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Toraxor said: so very wrong Which part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamron Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Maybe they’re making up for the inability to ride 95% of them by giving better loot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmydiloX Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Anybody else thing the Gacha should be renamed to Grognar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 this is why we can't have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingParacerParacer Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 2:03 AM, Olivar said: Capture your own and make your own gear? "But that takes effort! No, that won't do, just ruin it for everyone else!" To be fair WC has repeatedly catered to the 'but i donwanna stratigize' crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipRavage Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Stop asking for nerfs, what does it even matter? Why is everybody so obsessed with making this game more grindy then it already is. The amount of resources it takes to craft high quality guns and maintaining them is ridiculous, let the gachas offset that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldBudgie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 4:38 PM, flamron said: Maybe they’re making up for the inability to ride 95% of them by giving better loot? They're all ridable, but there's a bug where you cant ride it if you open the inventory the wrong way (on ps4 at least) You need to go look at it and it says (equip saddle to ride) then press the mount button instead of the open-dino-inventory button to equip the saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 8 hours ago, ChargingParacerParacer said: "But that takes effort! No, that won't do, just ruin it for everyone else!" To be fair WC has repeatedly catered to the 'but i donwanna stratigize' crowd. I'm sorry for being so inconsiderate, expecting you to put in effort. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyDinoPartey Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Gachas are fine, best way to get poly and Blackpearls, mhhh I love my 3k Blackpearls per day But i play PvE, so I can't say much about PvP but we dont get that much ascendant gear or even MC, and we have a tribemate that AFK's in base just for the crystal-party But the thing is, everybody can have Gachas, so let everyone get the better stuff - the map is hard enough with those wyverns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingParacerParacer Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Olivar said: I'm sorry for being so inconsiderate, expecting you to put in effort. My bad I didn't actually mean me btw haha. Was poking fun at the type of people that have tended to ask for nerfs in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balteraxe Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 If gacha's get nerfed again. They will turn into dodo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13jjeske Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 they already nerfed them into the ground. cant even feed feed them 50 stone without them getting the food debuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migol Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Gachas require a Lot of space (IE a VERY large base or just risking them in the open) to function...I've been testing, it's at least 12 tiles per mated couple and possibly a bit more (some are unhappy even at larger ranges)...vertically you need more than 15 walls higher (it may be much more, I have to experiement but we built our base at 15 and that's not enough). Keep in mind Gachas are massive, and need 5 walls high(6 to ride them) and about 3 tiles on both x and z axis for each to fit comfortably. So if you wanted 8 Gachas, you would need to make a square at about 24x24 (6 tiles for a pair, two pairs so 12 + the 12 tiles distance=24) and squeeze them into the corners. That's a floor with 576 ceilings/foundations, another 576 walls, and another 576 ceilings...for 8 gachas. Of course, 8 isn't enough to cover all their possible production mats, and as I alluded I'm not sure 12 tiles is enough either, there's some weird interactions I don't think we've discovered yet. So unless you put a Lot of effort into building a gigantic base, you can't efficiently farm Gachas. Not saying it's not doable, it totally is doable...but if your tribe is the type that can pull the resources to build that size of a base you're probably not hurting for resources anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySumtimez Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Which part?There's drops on map. Boss areas have drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akherousia Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I'm almost positive these were implemented into the game with this feature specifically to help give the average player a fighting chance against tyrannical alphas. I agree that it needs to be nerfed (again) and modified, but I also feel that high quality weapons and armor are entirely intentional to help balance the playing field a little more. It's not a perfect solution by any means, but the idea that the random you're trying to grief might be able to one-shot you with a really good longneck is an interesting dynamic to add to official PvP. The problem is that while it boosts up players who aren't as developed, it also better arms the alpha and other large tribes, too, so... again, not at all a perfect solution but I see where they were going with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull1128 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Well while I agree, it's ability to poop an entire armory out of its' back at such a rate is slightly ridiculous, you do have to bear in mind both from a PVE perspective and the fact that, otherwise, the Gacha is basically useless. I do agree that it's speed could definitely be tweaked to where it only produces so many items within a certain length of time, or the crafting skill value could be changed so players can't abuse what essentially becomes a free blacksmith that gives craptons of gear both very decent and amazing, however, remember that, if nerfed in the wrong spot, the Gacha could become useless. That and, with the lack of loot drops save for the hard-af-to-solo-wave challenges, this provides a good alternative to those who are unable or unwilling to do those supply drops. I agree with the nerf idea, but only if it's done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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