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PvE Blocking rivers is now OK?

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So I have reported a number of tribes for blocking rivers, cause you're not supposed too....

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PvE Specific Griefing
Game Blocking - you are not allowed to block other tribes from playing the game on PvE servers. This can include but is not limited to:
Obstructing pathways or waterways for the purpose of denying another tribe access

And the GM's have come in and deleted what ever was blocking......behemoth gates, spike walls.

BUT when it came to this base built on the river they just ignored the ticket. For 2 months. 
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(that is the green obi on the Island map in the upper right corner of the pic. The river goes into the base there on the left then bends and run right along the lenght of the base down to the right. They built smack dab along the river completely blocking it. Out of view to the right are like 3 or so rafts that are just hanging out there....cause they can not go further.)

A GM recently responded (within a day of reporting) to a river blockage (a spike wall). So I thanked the GM for the fast response and mentioned this old ticket and that GM recommended I resubmit a new ticket for it.

Within a day couple days on the new ticket I got this response:

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Enforcement
Thank you for your report.  As this base is not solely blocking off the river with a gate wall or similar we will not be removing these structures.

So.....it's not OK to block rivers but only if you half-a** it? If your gonna block make it a base and you are ok to grief the server?


I have a BIG problem with that. Cause if you want a taming trap in many areas of the map you need to use a taming raft that you can pilot near where you want to tame because most areas are "claimed" with pillars. But if the rivers are blocked with bases you can not even do that.

So is there REALLY a rule against blocking rivers? Does not seem like it.

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added pic and description of pic

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There is a way around so they doesnt block the ob or the river, but its a pretty huge base for 500 animal. Make a screen when the base loads in and count the animals. If they have more than 500 then make a report.

I made one ticket like a month ago for massive pillaring in our server, but they just doesnt care.

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That's why I pillared the river from ocean to green. On my legacy server tribes kept building gates through the river and I didn't want that happening again on my new server.

 

I assume WC didn't remove the base because the river is ending there. Or does the base reach far into the river to the right? If WC doesn't remove you can only wait and hope the tribe becomes inactive. Then pillar the river asap.

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Does the river actually go anywhere?  I mean all I see is a water fall.  Are you going to report the waterfall for blocking your progress across the map? 

I am sorry but the picture does not clarify to me that you have anywhere to go even if there was no base there.  Honestly should only report blocking if it is an extreme problem. Like if they took over every river on the entire map I could see then having and issue.  But geez it's just one river.  Can't you go fishing and taming on another river?  Or play single player or a different map or even look for private server where you can wrap the admin around your finger.  Sorry devil's advocate here.  My pet peeve is when caves are blocked but I would never report a player for their big fat base full of dinos.  That is kinda what the game is about.

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34 minutes ago, Jemcrystal said:

Does the river actually go anywhere?  I mean all I see is a water fall.  Are you going to report the waterfall for blocking your progress across the map? 

I am sorry but the picture does not clarify to me that you have anywhere to go even if there was no base there.  Honestly should only report blocking if it is an extreme problem. Like if they took over every river on the entire map I could see then having and issue.  But geez it's just one river.  Can't you go fishing and taming on another river?  Or play single player or a different map or even look for private server where you can wrap the admin around your finger.  Sorry devil's advocate here.  My pet peeve is when caves are blocked but I would never report a player for their big fat base full of dinos.  That is kinda what the game is about.

What an ignorant reply.

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The answer to your question is in your opening post dude.

PvE Specific Griefing

The owner of this base is not griefing anyone. It's an established base which just happens to be on a river.

I feel like you're the type of person that wouldn't make many friends in this game.

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Yes there is a spino spawn there. That is not a consideration the GM's will every take into account. 
Yes THAT base does not negatively effect MY game at all. It does/has effected many others on the server.

The community on the server asked me to report it, because many of them are upset at the blockage.
My post is not even about THAT base. Just the concept that it is NOT against the rules to block EVERY river in the game with a base. Whether it is one tribe blocking ALL rivers or many tribes collectively blocking ALL rivers in the game. My picture above just clearly shows that THAT base is COMPLETELY blocking the river in CLEAR violation of the stated rules AND the GM will not do anything about it because of a secret unstated exception to the rule. My thoughts are favoritism. especially due to how the ticket was handled (specifically ignored for 2 months - the original ticket is still open/unanswered). 

The reasons the GM gave for not doing anything open up blocking ALL rivers. And THAT is what I have an issue with.

3 hours ago, AdligerAdler said:

That's why I pillared the river from ocean to green. On my legacy server tribes kept building gates through the river and I didn't want that happening again on my new server.

 

I assume WC didn't remove the base because the river is ending there. Or does the base reach far into the river to the right? If WC doesn't remove you can only wait and hope the tribe becomes inactive. Then pillar the river asap.

Gotta be careful with pillars. 3 tribes on my server were wiped as between all 3 they had like 15% of the map pillared.

My original post stated the reason they did not remove the base. They said it's ok to block rivers if it is a base. They will only remove walls,gates, and similar not bases.

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Yes this does clearly show a lack on their part for upholding their own rule stopping griefing. If they do not reverse their decision and remove the base then very soon as folks see they can block rivers it will start happening more often. 

 

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2 hours ago, WaightZer said:

That river bends to the right there. And goes all the way to the ocean. 

Yes, one side of the river leads to the ocean, the other side to a waterfall and the swamp.

I dont see the problem here? Do you want to take your raft from the ocean side through the swamp?

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18 minutes ago, Baklap said:

I dont see the problem here? 

Then you have not read what I wrote.

Problem = ALL rivers to ANYWHERE are ok to block. ALL OF THEM. (as long as it is blocked with a base...of any size big enough to block it)

Did that help outline it?

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2 hours ago, Baklap said:

Yes, one side of the river leads to the ocean, the other side to a waterfall and the swamp.

I dont see the problem here? Do you want to take your raft from the ocean side through the swamp?

Use your eyes and Read, I didn't say anything about MY raft nor MY problems. I just answered the guy's question.

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