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Just how dumb is wildcard?


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7 hours ago, GP said:

Why are you continuing to go on about meshing when this incident has nothing to do with meshing? You'd think with your current unemployed status that you'd have the time to read.

 

6 hours ago, Aylana314159 said:

What are you even talking about? This whole thread has nothing to do with meshing. No meshing happened.

 

3 hours ago, AzDaemon said:

Lol you're either trolling or you're an idiot. This has nothing to do with meshing

I honestly don't know what to say, Chrono isn't tracking the story at all...  Or is trying to use some cryptic suggestion path to equate under-meshing and destruct-immune surface building?  I don't know.  Probably not worth the time to try and keep explaining it to the guy!

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Here's one thing people saying he knew what he was doing was wrong. He did not.
He was getting ready to release the build video and he previewed it in his twitter and tagged Ark in it.
Not things someone trying to get away with something would do. Seriously, watch the video and get some information before you comment.

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19 hours ago, SlipperySalmon said:

No reaction from WC.  They're hoping it just goes away.  I don't blame the dev's I blame the community managers who really have no skills at all.  They are just one level above telemarketers.  A Monkey would do a better job.

I can't bring myself to blame the CM's because, eventually, we'd still just be angry at the company and they'd be irrelevant. CM's are good for explaining/controlling firestorms that happen every once and a while Which they did for a pretty long time. However, as many of us know, they have no real power, and the people with real power in the company, refuse to change. 

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I know about surface building since January when I watched Wombat Skunkie's video about it. So this is a very old "problem" as well as sooooo many others WC doesn't know or didn't care about for a very long time... Instead of dev wiping they could just have told the players to remove their bases so they could have at least saved some materials and didn't get pi**s*d pretty bad.

Here are some pretty old videos about building above the burning surface:

 

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3 hours ago, DomiDarko said:

Instead of dev wiping they could just have told the players to remove their bases so they could have at least saved some materials and didn't get pi**s*d pretty bad.

Or simply fix the areas to be effected by burning. No warning, but only effected structures would have been wiped. 

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2 minutes ago, AzDaemon said:

But that would make sense and be to easy to implement. Also, where is the fun game of "how can we shoot ourselves in the foot now"?

As for PR. It would have been simple to say....'this area was never meant for permanent building and is now properly effected by the sun.'

 

No one would have argued with that. 

 

But now what? Can permanent building still be placed there? Is a dev/GM going to continuing tribe wiping anyone who so much as places a structure there for the foreseeable future? Has the root problem been fixed? (Either root =sun effect or root= meshing and trying to avoid meshers).

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Dunno why people cry about this, was an obvious exploit and how many bases did this unraidable base allow gethacked to wipe? 10? 100? if WC start listening to morons like HOD and gethacked the game will really go downhill fast, these people have made youtube careers out of this game, they should be thanking WC yet instead they throw tantrums, and if gethacked is true to his word then lets see what happens when extinction drops, he'll be milking that WC content for every cent he can get along with HOD and the rest. 

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5 hours ago, WClovescheaters said:

Dunno why people cry about this, was an obvious exploit and how many bases did this unraidable base allow gethacked to wipe? 10? 100? if WC start listening to morons like HOD and gethacked the game will really go downhill fast, these people have made youtube careers out of this game, they should be thanking WC yet instead they throw tantrums, and if gethacked is true to his word then lets see what happens when extinction drops, he'll be milking that WC content for every cent he can get along with HOD and the rest. 

Yes, this one platform behind his huge base with 100's of turret's and dino's allowed him to wipe 100 tribes..

Haha DILO, you have no idea what you are talking about right?

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12 hours ago, WClovescheaters said:

Dunno why people cry about this, was an obvious exploit and how many bases did this unraidable base allow gethacked to wipe? 10? 100? if WC start listening to morons like HOD and gethacked the game will really go downhill fast, these people have made youtube careers out of this game, they should be thanking WC yet instead they throw tantrums, and if gethacked is true to his word then lets see what happens when extinction drops, he'll be milking that WC content for every cent he can get along with HOD and the rest. 

Spoken like someone who hasn't the foggiest idea of what they're talking about

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5 minutes ago, Aylana314159 said:

It wasn't unraidable. It was unmeshable. There is a difference.

"Technically" it was an unraidable base, or at least an extremely near impossible base to raid. Only raidable option would be at night, and that high up, how would you even be able to raid it? Anyway, they didn't really have anything to raid up there, but yeah it's closer to unraidable than you think, even though that wasn't the issue at hand anyway.

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20 minutes ago, GP said:

"Technically" it was an unraidable base, or at least an extremely near impossible base to raid. Only raidable option would be at night, and that high up, how would you even be able to raid it? Anyway, they didn't really have anything to raid up there, but yeah it's closer to unraidable than you think, even though that wasn't the issue at hand anyway.

Technically, it was not unraidable, just incredibly difficult to raid. For instance you could probably put a platform up nearby yourself, and spend all night throwing ridden trikes/stegos at it with a crab.

But yeah, as GtJacked said, it was a bug out location, they had only just finished building it.

 

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It's all besides the point. He knew about the position for a while, actually a lot of us did, but only chose to use it after being pushed towards it by constant undermeshing and Wildcard's complacency towards it. What he did was wrong, of course, but that doesn't negate the fact that Wildcard approached it in a very unprofessional and heavy-handed manner. There was no warning whatsoever, just a full on wipe. You can't do that kind of thing in a game where thousands and thousands of hours of hard work are on the line. You have to be a little more careful than just eliminating everything because of an 'exploit' that, frankly, was something being 'exploited' simply because they were pushed into it to try and defend said thousands of hours of hard work from people who are genuinely exploiting the game with actual malicious intent.

It's an act of self-defense, yet Wildcard swiftly descended on them for this while working on the undermeshing problem completely behind the scenes.

Sure, GTJack3d made a lot of money off of Ark, but that's ultimately irrelevant too because he sunk in a colossal amount of time. It's more like trading time for money, and while one can still argue that he would have no way to make that conversion if Ark didn't exist, it still goes without saying that GTJack3d and other popular Ark Youtubers act as free promotion for this game and Ark owes a lot to the community for keeping the hype and interest alive for a game that, frankly, has been hurting us at every turn. At the very least, they owe their players a damn warning before removing everything they ever had.

At the end of the day, Wildcard's developers are unbelievably unprofessional and borderline incompetent. They stumbled into an awesome concept for a game and that's what holds our interest, the concept as a whole, but their execution and enforcement of the game has just been making it harder and harder to justify continuing to play. The fact that Wildcard didn't even acknowledge what they did, the event that brought this whole issue to the surface of their community, is a testament to that lack of professionalism and care. I'm glad they're taking action to combat the issue of undermeshing, but if they're not going to take responsibility for the players they screwed over in the process, then how are we supposed to put our faith or trust into them?

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