TINYMAN Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hello ARK Community TINYMAN Here, I understand perfectly why PvP'ers and PvE'ers COULD clash, but why do we? I'm sure there's a simple answer but how about we elaborate on it? For example, in a random forum a PvE'er could be talking about pillar spam or dino cap as an issue, and then a PvP'er adds, "Well then just move to PvP??". Why does this happen? I play PvP but I've never really done it. Share your experiences, info, and other things. Have a good day/night!, TINYMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelancerKnux Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 They clash because the base game was built for PvP but they slapped PvE mode together and in order for it to work they needed to pose additional limits on things like the dino cap for example. Then the PvE crowd gets angry when PvP finds the new meta and WC decide to slam it with the nerf bat, so even though it was only an "issue" in PvP both modes get affected. Same as the PvP crowd gets bothered by the fact that every second hour a new thread complaining about pillar spam or dino cap is started and those are only issues in PvE, Hence the large amount of replies saying play PvP. At the end of the day the two sides clashing is pointless as people will play what they wish but when building a game you can't decide halfway in to make a PvE mode without putting serious effort into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 PvE is basically an incomplete game mode. There are no in-game methods to setting land disputes or dino hoarding. There is war, but both sides have to agree. It's a tribal game and PvP is the only mode that is actually realistic. PvE could use more diplomacy mechanics and some limited PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacira Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Because I should be able to build my glass mansion without you being able to throw stones at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylana314159 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jacira said: Because I should be able to build my glass mansion without you being able to throw stones at it! Unless you build on the beavers spawns and make an endangered species extinct. Or build right next to someone else, to the point where neither can place structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Doesn’t matter if PvE was an afterthought when the game first hit development. People should be able to express their concerns for a product they paid for. PvP players complaining about PvE players and vice versa is beyond petty. Each game mode has their differences/issues but the core game is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacira Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I would question how much PvPing a pvp player even does if they have room left to bitch about pve players. Surely there is enough to bitch about within the pvp community... Surely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Because for whatever reason they feel they are superior. Its like this in every game. Just laugh at them, if they want to feel superior let them. They're grinding flint for a megatribe anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H0GMaster Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I have played both but personally i think pvp is miles better even if you get wiped constantly ive had my most laughs on pvp Pve get so boring after you start to get metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eESTlane Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 honestly, if your skill level is beyond stone tier, you should be advanced enough to render the "e" in "pve" neutral. mother nature isn't really that difficult to handle. you either fly to avoid the contact or just outrun it. even if you get cornered, prim flak can still handle several rex bites. even in the worst case scenario, when you do die, you just take a dino and retrieve your bag. you can't really lose. maybe unless you are taming dinos for their colors, not their stats on the other hand, playing against other people who (some would disagree) are smarter than the ai, is much more exciting. the actions aren't programmed so you never know what anyone does, for better and for worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 There goes that superior complex again. PvP players really can’t help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Because it’s a PVP game with Bandaids placed ontop of PVE issues. They are deep wounds that won’t heal, so the bandaids dont do squat. That’s pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonie1 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 They clash for the same reason people clash in the real world. Selfishness. We only care about that which effects our immediate surroundings. If a nerf happens to something you dont play, you typically wont care about it. If something is changed for the worse (in your mind) in your world as a result of a group you arent associated with, you resent them for it. As for the whole "I am better than you because I play PvE/PvP" routine, thats just immaturity and narcissism at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I guess not all from the opposing games modes are in conflict, just a small group of people. I think it just comes down to the supperiority complex some people have for their game mode. For me its when PvPers completly belittle PvE gamemode as a whole, its riles me up the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, AngrySaltire said: I guess not all from the opposing games modes are in conflict, just a small group of people. I think it just comes down to the supperiority complex some people have for their game mode. For me its when PvPers completly belittle PvE gamemode as a whole, its riles me up the wrong direction. You should see r/playark. Official PvPers absolutely hate anyone who doesn’t play that game mode and will go to great extremes to show the internet how pathetic they are. Imagine being so insecure that you attack someone for playing differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishootpaint Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, AngrySaltire said: I guess not all from the opposing games modes are in conflict, just a small group of people. I think it just comes down to the supperiority complex some people have for their game mode. For me its when PvPers completly belittle PvE gamemode as a whole, its riles me up the wrong direction. I feel its just a small group also, just a vocal minority. Most players could seem to care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasito97 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 is normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, DJRone89 said: You should see r/playark. Official PvPers absolutely hate anyone who doesn’t play that game mode and will go to great extremes to show the internet how pathetic they are. Imagine being so insecure that you attack someone for playing differently. Never been on there. I dont use reddit mainly because I cant stand the user interface. I can imagine the toxicity of the official pvpers there though haha I get the impression its standard on reddit. 25 minutes ago, ishootpaint said: I feel its just a small group also, just a vocal minority. Most players could seem to care less. Isnt it always the case that the vocal minority ruin it for the rest lol. Yeah I think your right, most couldn't care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjasharrk Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I tried pvp got tired of being casually wiped by the larger tribes and when tried to join one they just killed me and my Raptors, I'm not about the tribal aspect I'm just here for the dinos lol But the pillar spam on pve is maddening couldn't even get a aberration going so I'm still on the island , pve is nice cause of the trading aspect and you can roll up on your neighbors and flex with a pack of allos or something, if homie down the way is in trouble I give him a hand and vice versa , and the "alphas" give me a hand when breeding ..The toxicity is at a minimum I have no complaints about pve mode it's a good time once you find your place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjasharrk Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Oh yeah and 10 points the guy on a reaper who put a trip wire in my house after killing me like 5 times so I blew up all my stuff (literally 5mins after finishing my roof) as soon as I thought I was safe , serious sausage move but impressive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpcab Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Two completely different game mode. .. Pve has almost nothing in common with pvp and the foruns should be separated. That is a simple thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYMAN Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, DJRone89 said: You should see r/playark. Official PvPers absolutely hate anyone who doesn’t play that game mode and will go to great extremes to show the internet how pathetic they are. Imagine being so insecure that you attack someone for playing differently. You're pretty right btw... I play official small tribes right now and we were just starting out gathering metal at blu obby on Rag. and little raptors on wyverns came over and tried to harass us. It was funny though because I was driving while taunting him and he could hit me that much xD. Only broke one box on the boat. GRIEFERS though, they get annoying, but it's also occasionally fun to grief a griefer. By the way, for anyone out there starting out on small tribes or official server, just hide... hide until you can get sufficient mats or enough to raid bigger people. Either that or do what I do sometimes... tame a ptera and harass lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, TINYMAN said: You're pretty right btw... I play official small tribes right now and we were just starting out gathering metal at blu obby on Rag. and little raptors on wyverns came over and tried to harass us. It was funny though because I was driving while taunting him and he could hit me that much xD. Only broke one box on the boat. GRIEFERS though, they get annoying, but it's also occasionally fun to grief a griefer. By the way, for anyone out there starting out on small tribes or official server, just hide... hide until you can get sufficient mats or enough to raid bigger people. Either that or do what I do sometimes... tame a ptera and harass lol. I like PvP in this game, I just choose not to play it anymore. 6 hours ago, jpcab said: Two completely different game mode. .. Pve has almost nothing in common with pvp and the foruns should be separated. That is a simple thing to do Errr PvE still exists in PvP buddy, and vice versa because tribe wars turns on PvP in PvE for a mutually agreed upon time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryaaaw Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Ninjasharrk said: I tried pvp got tired of being casually wiped by the larger tribes and when tried to join one they just killed me and my Raptors, I'm not about the tribal aspect I'm just here for the dinos lol But the pillar spam on pve is maddening couldn't even get a aberration going so I'm still on the island , pve is nice cause of the trading aspect and you can roll up on your neighbors and flex with a pack of allos or something, if homie down the way is in trouble I give him a hand and vice versa , and the "alphas" give me a hand when breeding ..The toxicity is at a minimum I have no complaints about pve mode it's a good time once you find your place This is why I prefer PvE, the trading aspect and overall community is a lot more fun and for the most part, not toxic. Out of all my time playing, I've had like two bad run ins total. First one was a Chinese tribe that was killing all of the easter griffins that people were trying to tame, including one guy solely targetting me because I wouldn't just hand my easter griffin over to him lol. 2nd incident was with a tribe that was arrogant enough to think they owned the entire Obe and therefore had the rights to leave their dinos scattered all over, taking up space other players could use. Other than that, PvE is most likely 150% less toxic than PvP, from what I've noticed lol. Plus same... I'm mainly here to collect pretty dinos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjasharrk Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Yeah I actually love my server , theres zero toxicity other than some beef last week over a wyverns trading price (kid wanted 10k for it and my homie said that was too high) but I think that person went to another server or back to pvp , and awhile back some kid got griefed cause he was caught stealing eggs but that's been it and I been on for a few months. One of the largest groups gave me a wyvern cause she figured I needed one , and my homies gave me a giga cause all the bigger tribes need one apparently (I was happy with my rexes...haven't used them much since I got my allos though) and when someone breeds or tames something cool they invite people over to show off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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