Bloopaloop Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Oh my god I thought the exact same thing. I really like what they did to the wings and with the feathers but it looks too much like a chicken and the feathers now cover up into the floor from behind so spotting an egg has become a lot harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowletAlex Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I honestly think the new argy changes are very good, and I for one like it’s upright stance, which is WAY more accurate for a vulturine bird like argentavis. Here are some pictures of it’s closest living relatives: This is the black vulture, the second most common of the North American vultures (the most common being the Turkey Vulture) As you can see it has an upright stance similar to the current argy, if not identical. And here’s an Andean condor, an even closer relative to Argentavis, who also has the upright stance. I couldn’t fit any other photos in currently, so look up a condor in flight, and you’ll see that the large wings and small body the current argy has is totally accurate and very normal for vultures. Also look up the Lappet-faced vulture, which is what the in-game argy is likely based on (and coincidentally the genus the SE vulture is placed in) These however are not very closely related to the New World vultures, and thus not very closely related to argentavis, but I think that the large beak is a reasonable creative liberty the modelers took. At least it’s still based off of SOME kind of vulture, right? All in all I think the new argy is great, scientifically accurate, and pretty dang cool looking and SUPER useful. Just need to fix the bugs with carrying certain creatures and the smithy-saddle, and it’s perfect. And to all those who think it looks like a chicken: Have you ever seen a real chicken bro? They have big chests, big bodies, relatively short necks, and very small wings, unlike the argy. Vultures don’t really resemble chickens much aside from the obvious fact that they’re both birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I think the chicken-thing comes from the feathers on it's head. I don't have the right words in english to describe what I mean. It also looks kind of fluffy overall, that might add a "friendly" touch that doesn't really fit. I can't put my finger on that "thing" that makes me think of pidgeons when I see argies. It's not the animation, not the front view. It's when I look at it from the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 10:06 PM, prodigy1202 said: I like the way that the Argy looks now. In response to the claim that the previous Argentavis model was more scientifically accurate I have to say...no. The previous model irl would not have been able to take flight at all. It's body was WAY too big. The current Argy is more anatomically accurate than the previous. In terms of my opinion I love the new Argy. If you are referring to my post, that is what I said, the new model is more scientifically accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Weiss said: I think the chicken-thing comes from the feathers on it's head. This touches on the one minor criticism I have with the model. The forehead ruff of feathers is slightly, well, I suppose awkward would be the correct word. I get why it's there, many birds have a somewhat distinctive forehead patch of feathers (which might have something to do with GP's parrot comment), but there is something about it's shape or texture that draws a little too much attention to itself. This is further emphasized by the way the color patterns are laid out, with that patch often being a distinctly different color than the rest of the head. Again, this is a very minor criticism... it really doesn't bother me in any way and falls firmly into a design choice category not a bug/defect/problem category, but I do tend to notice it. So in all fairness I'll point it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPeter Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 11:21 AM, AngrySaltire said: I prefer the idea of a giant eagle over a giant vulture Strongly agree. Argent new/old cool, Griffin really like but just doesn't do it for me. Still really want a giant war eagle or falcon. A flying killing machine that's agile and not clumsy and isn't a wyvern. That can be imprinted on and fast. Actually good AI for fighting in the air without being ridden and has a saddle. No flying around in circles with it's target. No purpose for hauling or scouting but killing and spreading fear. So not a ptera, not an argent, not a wyvern, not a quetz, not a griffin, but a eagle/falcon that is like a fighter jet of the sky. Don't care if it can pick up people or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherOfRaptors Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 22/03/2018 at 4:52 AM, edandbunny said: I am 50/50 on the argy changes. Like others here I will likely start calling them pigeons. The longer neck and the head tuft are a bit much. Beyond that, I do agree they needed some serious help. They were much too stiff and looking down at a wild argy walking they looked like cockroaches. I do like the beak carry ability, and the weight reduction on certain items will make things nice. Unfortunately that weight reduction now makes the quetz more in need for some TLC love. The cockroach comparison made me laugh. I only now realised, how accurate it is Their chubby bodies used to make them look kinda cute, though. The new argy model is no where near cute. But I should admit, I started liking it a bit more after some time. Especially after realising, that the new model is more anatomically accurate, according to modern knowledge about how these birds used to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, MotherOfRaptors said: The cockroach comparison made me laugh. I only now realised, how accurate it is Their chubby bodies used to make them look kinda cute, though. The new argy model is no where near cute. But I should admit, I started liking it a bit more after some time. Especially after realising, that the new model is more anatomically accurate, according to modern knowledge about how these birds used to look like. My nephew told me he likes the new Argents because the old Argents walked like Baymax and the new ones walk like birds. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverender Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 They would be delicious battered and fried. Prime fried chicken pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXSMJXx Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I love the new one! Others have already covered things I would have chimed in with about it being more accurate and all. I always hated the old ones beady little eyes, short wings and overly chunky body. The new one is superior in every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClanTKC Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, xXSMJXx said: I love the new one! Others have already covered things I would have chimed in with about it being more accurate and all. I always hated the old ones beady little eyes, short wings and overly chunky body. The new one is superior in every way. Including looking like a pidgeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 If you stand right in front of the argie it reminds me of the blue eagle muppet (was the name Sam?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10,000 Jelly Doughnuts Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Weiss said: If you stand right in front of the argie it reminds me of the blue eagle muppet (was the name Sam?) I believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissBumbleberry Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 They look like a split between a pigeon, a chicken and a eagle face.Hate the new look and the new animations they do. Love the older versions. They looked more prettier and less of a mixture of birds as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetaphil Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 8:35 PM, RowletAlex said: I honestly think the new argy changes are very good, and I for one like it’s upright stance, which is WAY more accurate for a vulturine bird like argentavis. Here are some pictures of it’s closest living relatives: This is the black vulture, the second most common of the North American vultures (the most common being the Turkey Vulture) As you can see it has an upright stance similar to the current argy, if not identical. And here’s an Andean condor, an even closer relative to Argentavis, who also has the upright stance. I couldn’t fit any other photos in currently, so look up a condor in flight, and you’ll see that the large wings and small body the current argy has is totally accurate and very normal for vultures. Also look up the Lappet-faced vulture, which is what the in-game argy is likely based on (and coincidentally the genus the SE vulture is placed in) These however are not very closely related to the New World vultures, and thus not very closely related to argentavis, but I think that the large beak is a reasonable creative liberty the modelers took. At least it’s still based off of SOME kind of vulture, right? All in all I think the new argy is great, scientifically accurate, and pretty dang cool looking and SUPER useful. Just need to fix the bugs with carrying certain creatures and the smithy-saddle, and it’s perfect. And to all those who think it looks like a chicken: Have you ever seen a real chicken bro? They have big chests, big bodies, relatively short necks, and very small wings, unlike the argy. Vultures don’t really resemble chickens much aside from the obvious fact that they’re both birds. I agree with you. Even though I like the old Argies better. These new ones fit the vulture look a lot better.... Good job guys !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIE Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I like the new model. The animations are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imlostbud Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The New argies arnt too bad, but i really do hope they add more TLC's , as some dinos feel like the lack function, when compared to some of the new dinos and TLC fixes, Have a look at some of the water dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeningWei Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 21/03/2018 at 8:44 PM, combi said: i dont like the new argy its looks small and while on ground more like the vulture from ark. i may loved the old 1 more if its feathers just got updated and face i think it would of looked better It is a vulture though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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