LouSpowells Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Is OP looking for the Ark: Day Spa Evolved forums? Seriously though, I think the new raptoring raptor abilities are awesome as raptor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 hours ago, aggravating said: i have lived in a microrapter spawn for at least 2k hours and have only ever been knocked off a hand full of times and im not sure if i have ever died from one so no i dont see the problem If you live in the spawn then youve destroyed a portion of it causing them to be more rare, not to mention they arnt overly common to begin with. Raptors are easily 5x more common then micros, most likely more. Micros will all stun u together so u only get stunned once, same with purlovias. You can change aggression level of ur dinos no matter what hits you except new raptors. Your argument that you dont get hit by something uncommon is out of place for a dino thats literally everywhere. If nothing else their should be a cooldown just like how we cant repeatedly bola things. This pounce should work like the isle where you grab the side of the larger dino and start shredding, like Jurassic park 1s ending. Raptors are supposed to be early game tames. This ability puts them way out of that tier. On the other hand riding a parasaur might be viable now. Constantly alarm, plus dont they alert you of nearby dangers like drakes when you arnt riding them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graviphoton Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I have tried scared a raptor by my parasaur three times but it did not work (it ended in pouncing and then fighting for parasaur life). I successfully scared a dilo, a pego, an ovi, a troodon so something I do right. What can be wrong with raptors? Any tips/suggestions? Different distance, not aggro...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Graviphoton said: I have tried scared a raptor by my parasaur three times but it did not work (it ended in pouncing and then fighting for parasaur life). I successfully scared a dilo, a pego, an ovi, a troodon so something I do right. What can be wrong with raptors? Any tips/suggestions? Different distance, not aggro...? Could be the raptor out levels your parasaur. I haven't heard if its lvl based like the rex roar or not but its highly likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graviphoton Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Onimusha759 said: Could be the raptor out levels your parasaur. I haven't heard if its lvl based like the rex roar or not but its highly likely. Oh it is very interesting hypothesis! It is true my parasaur is not highest level. I will check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graviphoton Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So I checked my yesterday footage - Parasaur is L85 and Raptor was L16. Mmm, so something else... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Graviphoton said: So I checked my yesterday footage - Parasaur is L85 and Raptor was L16. Mmm, so something else... :-( Gotta say i was unhappy about the TLC only going to PC at first, but now since the argent, raptors/parasaurs are broken im so glad my ps4 will be running the patched version of this update LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graviphoton Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 @Onimusha759: I felt very dissapointed I can test updated animals only for an hour in Tuesday... and I can't give it a minute in Wednesday... but now I have more understanding for your attitude ;-) Some bugs are already fixed so for me today is The Day. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 First of all, raptors pounce only occasionally. I've fought packs of em and have only been pounced once. And OP says this problem will make things specifically harder for newer players. I hope he didn't forget that the parasaur has the ability to scare them away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Graviphoton said: @Onimusha759: I felt very dissapointed I can test updated animals only for an hour in Tuesday... and I can't give it a minute in Wednesday... but now I have more understanding for your attitude ;-) Some bugs are already fixed so for me today is The Day. :-) I sure hope they fix it all for you and everyone else. Hope you get what your hoping for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenTheReaper Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I for one, like that raptors are a threat again and not worthless annoyances. They're always portrayed as one of the most dangerous creatures, but ARK has made them a joke until now. It's not like they're ridiculously overpowered and there isn't a way to deal with them. Bolas are a low level unlock and very light. You have ways to deal with challenges, you just aren't creative enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, FenTheReaper said: I for one, like that raptors are a threat again and not worthless annoyances. They're always portrayed as one of the most dangerous creatures, but ARK has made them a joke until now. It's not like they're ridiculously overpowered and there isn't a way to deal with them. Bolas are a low level unlock and very light. You have ways to deal with challenges, you just aren't creative enough. If your on a mount you probably wont get to bola, if your on foot i doubt youll be able to bola 3 before they ground you. Tbh i dont care to much bout the pounce on foot, but i think the dismounting is BS. I do think it be ok tho if the raptor would pin the dino, because obviously if it pins your dino youd have to dismount but larger dinos isnt cool. I haven't seen any of these changes 1st hand, but anything with stun i instantly reject, especially when its 1 of the most common dinos on the map and theres literally nothing you can do once nabbed. Even thys and jellies allow you to whistle your passive dino to attack, heck thys let you fight back. I do look forward to the initial challenge but later on this will make them that much more of an annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, Onimusha759 said: If your on a mount you probably wont get to bola, if your on foot i doubt youll be able to bola 3 before they ground you. Tbh i dont care to much bout the pounce on foot, but i think the dismounting is BS. I do think it be ok tho if the raptor would pin the dino, because obviously if it pins your dino youd have to dismount but larger dinos isnt cool. I haven't seen any of these changes 1st hand, but anything with stun i instantly reject, especially when its 1 of the most common dinos on the map and theres literally nothing you can do once nabbed. Even thys and jellies allow you to whistle your passive dino to attack, heck thys let you fight back. I do look forward to the initial challenge but later on this will make them that much more of an annoyance. It's almost like you have to actually survive in a survival game. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Wazzamaniac said: It's almost like you have to actually survive in a survival game. Huh. You dont have to be a smart A. My point is its kinda OP compared to all the other grabs and stuns, which is true. Megas, thys, squid, and kapros all allow you to fight back and whistle when grabbed. Full on stuns also allow you to whistle, you literally have no options once grabbed. Its also out of place to have something this strong being so common. Usually the devs are nerfing and balancing everything, now im here saying this isnt balanced. There is no way you can say this mechanic, compared to all other similar mechanics, isnt unbalanced. Arnt you the guy earlier in the thread showing concerns and asking questions about this stuff? Your most recent question was about the inability to defend yourself once grabbed. Here i am making a point of it and your trying to pick a fight with me. And before anyone wants to chime in on that part, being a sarcastic smart is naturally inflaming to most people that its targeted at. So yes, he is trying to pick a fight with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, Onimusha759 said: You dont have to be a smart A. My point is its kinda OP compared to all the other grabs and stuns, which is true. Megas, thys, squid, and kapros all allow you to fight back and whistle when grabbed. Full on stuns also allow you to whistle, you literally have no options once grabbed. Its also out of place to have something this strong being so common. Usually the devs are nerfing and balancing everything, now im here saying this isnt balanced. There is no way you can say this mechanic, compared to all other similar mechanics, isnt unbalanced. Well, to be fair, if you are grabbed on foot by a mega or a tuso you die REALLY fast, and their tankiness can make it hard to do enough damage to free yourself. That said, I wouldnt complain if they could compromise and let you use a limited range of weaponry to defend yourself, such as small arms or one-handed weapons. But I do like this change, raptors are now a threat, instead of a nuisance. Apologies for the rudeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: Well, to be fair, if you are grabbed on foot by a mega or a tuso you die REALLY fast, and their tankiness can make it hard to do enough damage to free yourself. That said, I wouldnt complain if they could compromise and let you use a limited range of weaponry to defend yourself, such as small arms or one-handed weapons. But I do like this change, raptors are now a threat, instead of a nuisance. Apologies for the rudeness. Accepted and i am actually kinda looking forward to this too. It probably wont effect me much where i fly everywhere on my ptera. It does make me a lil hesitant tho because i deal with annoyances and pains all darn day, so when i go home i have the old gold way of thinking of a video game. Its supposed to be fun, not a pain in the A. This sounds like fun at 1st then nothing more then a time consuming pain in the A later in an already time consuming pain in the A grinding game. I dont go diving without a mount and you reminded me, megas and squid dont dismount you on grab either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Onimusha759 said: Accepted and i am actually kinda looking forward to this too. It probably wont effect me much where i fly everywhere on my ptera. It does make me a lil hesitant tho because i deal with annoyances and pains all darn day, so when i go home i have the old gold way of thinking of a video game. Its supposed to be fun, not a pain in the A. This sounds like fun at 1st then nothing more then a time consuming pain in the A later in an already time consuming pain in the A grinding game. I dont go diving without a mount and you reminded me, megas and squid dont dismount you on grab either. While the mega DOES dismount you on grab, I have to admit at that point you aren't the one being chewed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: While the mega DOES dismount you on grab, I have to admit at that point you aren't the one being chewed on. When i ride my bary i dont always get dismounted. I had to personally jump off of my bary in the south cave to tranq the sucker. That was recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdligerAdler Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The new raptor can raptoring dismount you? This is the most cancerous ability ever on wild creatures. My heart still aches from losing my first bred argy because of a purlovia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaprosuchus Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 anything that ends up with me staring at my screen unable to do anything meaningful is as boring to me as the fans of this change seem to think "doing chores" are. I don't really mind challenge or unexpected things, or even prior planning but given the wierd AI of creatures of ark and their sometimes crappy response time even when on neutral, i'd rather be able to at least fight back. Since the change i just farm with a pack of vultures on aggressive, chained to me at high follow distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:24 AM, Frogspoison said: Then why are you even in this thread? Upping your post count? This thread is for those who either A) View the Raptor change for wild raptors as bad, or B) View it as a good thing. For those who don't care... No, it's a public forum where any post is subject to commentary and debate from other players. If you don't want people to be able to comment on, or argue against, things you post then you need to submit a private ticket to WildCard. You don't get to choose who responds to your posts, if you can't handle that reality then don't post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 12:47 AM, tyranttommy said: Oh yes, while you are out on your beaver, doed, anky, carno, bear (and many others) regardless of how easily you can destroy a raptor they should be able to spear you off and pin you to the ground until you die. Meanwhile the entire reason you are out on your dino is to farm, but the raptors spawn everywhere so by your logic you just avoid what you need so its not an issue.... makes sense.... I am guessing a trex would be fine against the raptor now? So every time you want to farm you have to bring bolas with you or a rex... great game mechanic. Or you just get into the habit of bringing an escort animal with you set to "Attack my Target". In most circumstances all you need is one good combat animal and it will protect you when you get knocked off, long enough for you to stand up and get into the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 4:15 PM, Kaprosuchus said: anything that ends up with me staring at my screen unable to do anything meaningful is as boring to me as the fans of this change seem to think "doing chores" are. I don't really mind challenge or unexpected things, or even prior planning but given the wierd AI of creatures of ark and their sometimes crappy response time even when on neutral, i'd rather be able to at least fight back. Since the change i just farm with a pack of vultures on aggressive, chained to me at high follow distance. I understand where you're coming from with your frustration, but there are a multitude of other inconvenient and/or fatal obstacles you've learned to overcome in the game. This is just another one to tack onto that. For those who have spent any time whatsoever in the swamp dodging Kapros, dealing with pouncing Raptors is kind of a walk in the park. Everyone's best bet is to try not to go anywhere without a solid shoulder pet to watch your back and keep their mount on attack-target. It's an inconvenience for sure, but it's an inconvenience that fits the nature of the game rather well. That said, I'm not opposed to being able to melee attack while pounced either. I feel like that would be a good balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, LouSpowells said: I understand where you're coming from with your frustration, but there are a multitude of other inconvenient and/or fatal obstacles you've learned to overcome in the game. This is just another one to tack onto that. For those who have spent any time whatsoever in the swamp dodging Kapros, dealing with pouncing Raptors is kind of a walk in the park. Everyone's best bet is to try not to go anywhere without a solid shoulder pet to watch your back and keep their mount on attack-target. It's an inconvenience for sure, but it's an inconvenience that fits the nature of the game rather well. That said, I'm not opposed to being able to melee attack while pounced either. I feel like that would be a good balance. I'll breed battle jerboas for SE I guess... Can you throw shoulder pets when you are pinned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onimusha759 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Weiss said: I'll breed battle jerboas for SE I guess... Can you throw shoulder pets when you are pinned? Y would you? When in melee range your mount attacks from your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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