Doth Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I am an xbox player looking at the PC patch notes. I get that the glider suit needed nerfed and I like how they have done it besides the cooldown mechanic. Adding a cooldown to things that dont make sense is so frustrating and unfun. We already have a cooldown mechanic, it's called stamina. Why are they putting a second one over it instead of adding increased stamina consumption. Side note: I have the same qualm with the basilisk bury cooldown. Neither the glide suit or the basilisk should have a cooldown because there is no logical reason to it besides silent red letters pop up on the screen that say I'm not aloud. There isn't even a timer or indicator for the basilisk from what I can see. Is there one for the glide suit PC players? The only other thing I can think of that has a cooldown mechanic atm is the underpowered tek railgun. That is done well because it makes sense and has very obvious indicators. I never played with scorched or rag tames so if they have cooldowns that I don't know about excuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrisRas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 i havent use the glide suit in awhile so im unaware of the cooldown, but i agree its pretty stupid to nerf it just because it does what it was intended to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baton Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, OrisRas said: i havent use the glide suit in awhile so im unaware of the cooldown, but i agree its pretty stupid to nerf it just because it does what it was intended to do. It did very op stuff lol u didnt even need tames to travel freely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Slow clap 10/10 Make a useful feature of the game, and then completely nerf it to the point of obsolescence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrisRas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, Baton said: It did very op stuff lol u didnt even need tames to travel freely i mean it was orginally only an abby thing because there are no fliers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, OrisRas said: i mean it was orginally only an abby thing because there are no fliers... Good thing I allowed fliers on Aberration on my server cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrisRas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sphere said: Good thing I allowed fliers on Aberration on my server cluster. the server i play on doesnt allow fliers but has the tek helper mod so you can easily craft element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, OrisRas said: the server i play on doesnt allow fliers but has the tek helper mod so you can easily craft element. Fly with your suit. Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrisRas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sphere said: Fly with your suit. Nice only down side is they dont have tek hasmat mod which keeps tek suit from breaking as easy in radiation and from you taking radiation poisoning. I mean youre in alien gear why would it take radiation damage lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandyH Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The added the timer because you was able to equip one while wearing one during flying so you never needed to land apart from for stam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrisRas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 hours ago, MandyH said: The added the timer because you was able to equip one while wearing one during flying so you never needed to land apart from for stam. that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconicannon Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Doth said: I am an xbox player looking at the PC patch notes. I get that the glider suit needed nerfed and I like how they have done it besides the cooldown mechanic. Adding a cooldown to things that dont make sense is so frustrating and unfun. We already have a cooldown mechanic, it's called stamina. Why are they putting a second one over it instead of adding increased stamina consumption. Side note: I have the same qualm with the basilisk bury cooldown. Neither the glide suit or the basilisk should have a cooldown because there is no logical reason to it besides silent red letters pop up on the screen that say I'm not aloud. There isn't even a timer or indicator for the basilisk from what I can see. Is there one for the glide suit PC players? The only other thing I can think of that has a cooldown mechanic atm is the underpowered tek railgun. That is done well because it makes sense and has very obvious indicators. I never played with scorched or rag tames so if they have cooldowns that I don't know about excuse me. Please do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Sphere said: Slow clap 10/10 Make a useful feature of the game, and then completely nerf it to the point of obsolescence. WC's new slogan: "ITS NERF OR NOTHIN" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayn Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 You could use the glider + a rocket launcher to suicide into enemy turrets and the turrets didn't have the speed to track and shoot you. So that's why projectiles do 3x damage and you go slower. Instead of buffing turrets, which should ALWAYS track, they nerfed the glide suit. You could also double jump spam to a great advantage in 1v1 pvp. Hence the cooldown. Cooldown, IMO is stupid. Better tracking on turrets would have solved things. The 1v1 advantage is negated if the other player had a glide suit as well. 3x dmg from projectiles is stupid. I'm wearing MORE metal on my chest. 20 weight worth. Why would I take more damage from projectiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Good. I don't agree with the glide speed change, but overall the glider suit was too OP and needed the nerf...hence the reason I brought it up a few weeks back. For people who really knew how to use them, Glider Suits mechanics were broken as hell...I mean, there was absolutely no reason to have infinite flight. These changes address the broken mechanics fairly well while still leaving most of the fun intact. The glide speed sounds like a crap, but gliding fast usually comes from dives anyway...so hopefully the speed difference doesn't feel too outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhimanez Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Ya this is BS i sometimes fall out of the sky because the wings wont open back up.. they need a way to disable the cooldown on private servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 yea, this is beyond stupid. not only is it almost HALF the speed, but now a 10-second cooldown?? it might as well be a parachute now, except well.. it causes death, not prevents it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milsurp Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Good news everyone! https://arkdevtracker.com/?post=bdkglvna Got it from someone responding to my complaints about this in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Milsurp said: Good news everyone! https://arkdevtracker.com/?post=bdkglvna Got it from someone responding to my complaints about this in another thread. " but certainly in a much better place" Like the attic! No, they'll be worse, awesome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 1:52 AM, Zederia said: " but certainly in a much better place" Like the attic! No, they'll be worse, awesome.. Zed - "You guys suck. Fix this! You overnerfed it!" WC - "You're right. Our bad. We overnerfed it and we'll fix that." Zed - "You guys suck!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacira Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I would rather it have a CD than increased stam consumption. Imagine using it while you're fleeing and being unable to because it takes all ur stam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamage007 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 As usual things get overnerfed instead of gradually. They never learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederia Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 hours ago, LouSpowells said: Zed - "You guys suck. Fix this! You overnerfed it!" WC - "You're right. Our bad. We overnerfed it and we'll fix that." Zed - "You guys suck!!" you obviously know nothing about me, so hey.. bash me all you like. ^um.. v3.. where? oh right.. never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milsurp Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Jacira said: I would rather it have a CD than increased stam consumption. Imagine using it while you're fleeing and being unable to because it takes all ur stam? I would like stam drain better. Even hanging from a parachute takes actual effort, I kid you not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacira Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Milsurp said: I would like stam drain better. Even hanging from a parachute takes actual effort, I kid you not. I know I've been parachuting. But it's not about what's realistic in this case, it's about what more efficient and practical. Of which burning all your stamina too easily is not practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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