Pyrometheus Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I really love this game i do, but i dont know if i can keep playing like this. Me and my friend have had the game since the first day of early access and have went through multiple servers. We started on pve dedi for a month and it eventually went down and we lost everything. then we did a pvp dedicated and again lost everything due to a restart this time. This trend continues for months until we start an official and proceed to get murdered every time we step on land as i built a small base raft to keep us moving but eventually we have to tame dinos and get resources but since officials have so many people we cant get anywhere without getting killed its ridiculous. We just wanna keep our tribe me and him but this game seems to be nothing but people harassing fresh spawns in officials and the dedis/unofficials are so unstable that we cant play more than a month without losing everything. thats nearly 6 months of work between servers lost due to all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipe3232 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 To me it seems like you are doing it wrong, and have a defeatist attitude, gr8 combo for a "survival game", survival doesnt mean survive the dinos 5 mins, and get your tek stuff, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPeter Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 @Pyrometheus I’m confused. Did I misread something? 1 hour ago, Pyrometheus said: Me and my friend have had the game since the first day of early access The way you write it reads as if you’ve been playing for months but the game has been out in EA on PS4 over a year. I joined this forum a year ago to the day. And had been plying this game for a couple months before I joined this forum. Such inconsistencies make it difficult to take your post serious so I assume I am reading it wrong or there’s a typo somewhere. The problems you’re complaining about here sound like someone who has been playing for a few weeks. I guess I’m having trouble buying into what you’re saying. You can’t keep doing the same thing over and over. Google definition of insanity. Something is off with what you’re saying. If you’re not learning and getting better you’re doing something wrong. There are several options available the most popular is unofficial servers. Have you tried those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis3691 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I really love this game i do, but i dont know if i can keep playing like this. Me and my friend have had the game since the first day of early access and have went through multiple servers. We started on pve dedi for a month and it eventually went down and we lost everything. then we did a pvp dedicated and again lost everything due to a restart this time. This trend continues for months until we start an official and proceed to get murdered every time we step on land as i built a small base raft to keep us moving but eventually we have to tame dinos and get resources but since officials have so many people we cant get anywhere without getting killed its ridiculous. We just wanna keep our tribe me and him but this game seems to be nothing but people harassing fresh spawns in officials and the dedis/unofficials are so unstable that we cant play more than a month without losing everything. thats nearly 6 months of work between servers lost due to all this. It's called PvE! We may have our griefers and trolls, but under normal circumstances you won't lose ALL your work. (Excluding but not limited to: being kited by a giga, alpha wyvern, Titansaur, or rock golem.)Edit: offical pve I mean to say*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgirl Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Sounds like you would be better suited to PVE instead of PVP (assuming all the deaths are caused by other humans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Pyrometheus said: I really love this game i do, but i dont know if i can keep playing like this. Me and my friend have had the game since the first day of early access and have went through multiple servers. We started on pve dedi for a month and it eventually went down and we lost everything. then we did a pvp dedicated and again lost everything due to a restart this time. This trend continues for months until we start an official and proceed to get murdered every time we step on land as i built a small base raft to keep us moving but eventually we have to tame dinos and get resources but since officials have so many people we cant get anywhere without getting killed its ridiculous. We just wanna keep our tribe me and him but this game seems to be nothing but people harassing fresh spawns in officials and the dedis/unofficials are so unstable that we cant play more than a month without losing everything. thats nearly 6 months of work between servers lost due to all this. Sounds like your experiences have been rough. I'd recommend checking out a few of the dedi servers people are advertising in the forums. There are some which have been up for a LONG time and will likely continue to remain open. Official PvP is second only to League of Legends when it comes to toxicity...so I'd avoid that at all costs. PvE official is a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrometheus Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 apparently only like one person actually read my post... I tried pvp and pve, dedicated servers and official. And yes i know survival games you lose stuff ive played plenty. but this is the only survival game ive played that it can takes days or weeks to get stuff back unless you are on super jacked servers which i try to avoid. What im complaining about is the fact that if i play dedis the over 10 we've been in have all ended up either closing or crashing resulting in full loss. So its disheartening to keep trying new servers when experience tells they end badly. And granted ive only played official rag pvp once for like a week but i didnt like the fact that there seems to not be enough room for everyone as where ever i went i ran into people and they immediately kill us. so it seems extremely unlikely we can build and thrive in official without joining a big tribe or hiding somewhere remote with little resources. and yes the dates were off as i just through a guess out without checking the actual release but we did buy when it first come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pyrometheus said: apparently only like one person actually read my post... I tried pvp and pve, dedicated servers and official. And yes i know survival games you lose stuff ive played plenty. but this is the only survival game ive played that it can takes days or weeks to get stuff back unless you are on super jacked servers which i try to avoid. What im complaining about is the fact that if i play dedis the over 10 we've been in have all ended up either closing or crashing resulting in full loss. So its disheartening to keep trying new servers when experience tells they end badly. And granted ive only played official rag pvp once for like a week but i didnt like the fact that there seems to not be enough room for everyone as where ever i went i ran into people and they immediately kill us. so it seems extremely unlikely we can build and thrive in official without joining a big tribe or hiding somewhere remote with little resources. and yes the dates were off as i just through a guess out without checking the actual release but we did buy when it first come out. How are you finding these unofficial servers? What type are they; player dedicated or PC unofficial? On console, rented PC unofficials seem to be staying up more than player dedicated ever did, especially since players can donate (unless the host is stupid enough to think they can run without them in the long run). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 For player dedicated I'd suggest looking over the dedicated server discussion sections of the forums to sort the wheat from the chaff. If you're willing to consider joining an established tribe there is also the Tribes section that serves a similar purpose for tribal ads and info. Obviously that would preclude staying in a 2 person tribe though. On a side note, for me personally one of the most enjoyable parts of ARK game play is starting over. That period where everything is dangerous, and survival more depends on personal skills and experience than accumulated stats, creatures, and equipment. But again, that's a personal preference and not a critique of your motivations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis3691 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 apparently only like one person actually read my post... I tried pvp and pve, dedicated servers and official. And yes i know survival games you lose stuff ive played plenty. but this is the only survival game ive played that it can takes days or weeks to get stuff back unless you are on super jacked servers which i try to avoid. What im complaining about is the fact that if i play dedis the over 10 we've been in have all ended up either closing or crashing resulting in full loss. So its disheartening to keep trying new servers when experience tells they end badly. And granted ive only played official rag pvp once for like a week but i didnt like the fact that there seems to not be enough room for everyone as where ever i went i ran into people and they immediately kill us. so it seems extremely unlikely we can build and thrive in official without joining a big tribe or hiding somewhere remote with little resources. and yes the dates were off as i just through a guess out without checking the actual release but we did buy when it first come out.I read your post before I replied, so if I missed something I'm sorry! I was under the impression you didn't try offical pve! Which is what I was suggesting! Sorry for the confusion and if I didn't read correctly! [emoji4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRSA Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 My solution to this would be to host your own Dedi server for you and your friend. I'm running my own server from an old laptop at home. Me and the wife play on it and its great. I use ASM to manage it and have a number of different servers to pick from when I want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymas Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 There are unofficials that have been up for months, if not years. My first server was an unofficial that was active for well over a year. It takes some research but if you look around you can find them. I'd recommend finding a PVE with lower rates and potentially in a cluster with some other maps, so people are a little more spread out. But the most important thing is to find a server with a community you mesh with. That imo is much more important than which type of server you play on. It might take a few tries but spend a few hours or a day or so on a new server. Listen to global, tame a ptera or something and scout around some to get an idea of what kind of community the server is. If you see sprawling mega bases and everything is pillared or walled off, then you probably don't want to stay there. If there's a lot of arguing and server politics going on, you'll probably find griefers and trolls, or find yourself eventually caught up in the middle. Find a good community and the rest falls into place. The server cluster I play on now has much higher rates than I prefer, but the community is pretty nice if quiet so I don't mind so much. The servers have been around for awhile so I have an assurance of their longevity, but if they go down it's not a huge deal. I actually like starting over, it's an opportunity to do things differently. But I also play exclusively on PVE unofficials so it's not like I have much to do with trading or general competition, and I've built up enough times that it doesn't take long at all. Play to enjoy, not to invest, is the attitude I've adopted lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPeter Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Pyrometheus said: apparently only like one person actually read my post... I tried pvp and pve, dedicated servers and official. And yes i know survival games you lose stuff ive played plenty. but this is the only survival game ive played that it can takes days or weeks to get stuff back unless you are on super jacked servers which i try to avoid. What im complaining about is the fact that if i play dedis the over 10 we've been in have all ended up either closing or crashing resulting in full loss. So its disheartening to keep trying new servers when experience tells they end badly. And granted ive only played official rag pvp once for like a week but i didnt like the fact that there seems to not be enough room for everyone as where ever i went i ran into people and they immediately kill us. so it seems extremely unlikely we can build and thrive in official without joining a big tribe or hiding somewhere remote with little resources. and yes the dates were off as i just through a guess out without checking the actual release but we did buy when it first come out. Read all your posts, double checked didn't miss anything. I get errors happen why I was asking. I type wrong stuff on accident all the time. IF I am understanding what your issue is correctly you just can't find a good location to play with your tribe (so single player wouldn't work). If that is correct then you ran into same issue I did and my group now play on a legacy server where the population at any given time is really low. I refuse to play with them since it's only a matter of time before it's repurposed/deleted. No thanks! *MY OPINION* is to really search hard to find a dedicated server, talk to the owner/admin(s) and see if it fits your needs OR host your own server. Let me know if I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrometheus Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 yeah its more location. The one we were just in was pc unofficial but it disappeared so im assuming they stopped paying for it. I've ran my own server before as well but ultimately had issues keeping players in it so it became boring and nobody would mess with us since they knew we ran the server which sucked. The issue is just finding a good dedi. We like bonuses under 4x and most servers have massive bonuses and the ones that dont usually are full of carebears who dont raid or just wanna be friends with everyone. Like i love building and stuff but game gets boring with no pvp or worry of being attacked but with official its more just griefing where you cant even get started without support of a tribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedros Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The Ark Official servers are infamous for how toxic the player base is on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrometheus Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 yeah i saw that lol its just sad that officials are really the only option for a fair play server that is supported. I remember all the issues with dedicated in the past and them never running correctly, doesnt seem as bad now though. just have to find a decent server i guess and hope it doesnt shut down again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJRone89 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pyrometheus said: yeah i saw that lol its just sad that officials are really the only option for a fair play server that is supported. I remember all the issues with dedicated in the past and them never running correctly, doesnt seem as bad now though. just have to find a decent server i guess and hope it doesnt shut down again What do you mean by dedicated; player or PC unofficial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSmith Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 You clearly can't be Chuck Norris in Ark. Its a survival game.. you just can't survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanJoe Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, GunSmith said: You clearly can't be Chuck Norris in Ark. Its a survival game.. you just can't survive Surviving the ARK is easy. It's surviving the developer's constant attempts to destroy their game and community is the hard part. The video Daedros posted sums it all up really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrometheus Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 dedicated is player dedicated server and unofficial is pc. ive tried both and both have failed me lol but im assuming pc is probably the more stable of the 2. also yeah surviving is easy the only issue is finding a server with a balance of players to fight on unoffical and official just has super tribes that murder you on sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamage007 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Make friends with or join a megatribe, its the only way on official pvp. Servers are too laggy and megatribes wipe anyone they dont know to try and keep the lag down and keep it owned by them. If the game wasnt so laggy (esp Rag) you might be able to find one.Pve is boring and most servers are at tame cap, hosted servers either shut down or have save data corruptions (happened to me 3 times before I went official). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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