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I play on a fully blue tagged official server.  It's acceptable behavior to grab 10 C4 and go around the map blowing up beach bobs.  Not for stuff, but for laughs.  Occasionally a beach bob speaks in chat after getting wiped and everyone is like "ahh man, dude seemed like good people" and sometimes those beach bobs and up getting blue tagged.

If I had to make one suggestion to anyone trying to play as a solo or small tribe on official PvP, its start trading with the alpha tribe(s) and overpay for stuff, even if you don't need it.  We have one smallish tribe on our AB server buying stuff from me for element.  I even supply him with the elemental ore at no cost (because it's easy to farm).  After a few trades, my prices got more reasonable and my offers got more useful.  I'm selling him a fully raised rock drake for 30 element, which is a pretty sweet deal for them IMO.  On other servers, using advanced rifle rounds seems to work wonders.  It's a two-fer.  On the one hand, I don't like making bullets, on the other hand, I don't like non-allied tribes having bullets.  Those people selling bullets therefor get to live.

This works because they're seen as useful to us and the server.  If you aren't helping out the people already on the server, then you're just going to end up taking resources that the other people may want or need.  Historically, wars are fought over resources.

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8 minutes ago, Brayn said:

I play on a fully blue tagged official server.  It's acceptable behavior to grab 10 C4 and go around the map blowing up beach bobs.  Not for stuff, but for laughs.  Occasionally a beach bob speaks in chat after getting wiped and everyone is like "ahh man, dude seemed like good people" and sometimes those beach bobs and up getting blue tagged.

If I had to make one suggestion to anyone trying to play as a solo or small tribe on official PvP, its start trading with the alpha tribe(s) and overpay for stuff, even if you don't need it.  We have one smallish tribe on our AB server buying stuff from me for element.  I even supply him with the elemental ore at no cost (because it's easy to farm).  After a few trades, my prices got more reasonable and my offers got more useful.  I'm selling him a fully raised rock drake for 30 element, which is a pretty sweet deal for them IMO.  On other servers, using advanced rifle rounds seems to work wonders.  It's a two-fer.  On the one hand, I don't like making bullets, on the other hand, I don't like non-allied tribes having bullets.  Those people selling bullets therefor get to live.

This works because they're seen as useful to us and the server.  If you aren't helping out the people already on the server, then you're just going to end up taking resources that the other people may want or need.  Historically, wars are fought over resources.

You and I both know that when he shows up with the 30 element to get his rock drake he's going to get a face full of lead. Then a full demolition crew will be by his base shortly after        

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6 minutes ago, Mjsechrest said:

You and I both know that when he shows up with the 30 element to get his rock drake he's going to get a face full of lead. Then a full demolition crew will be by his base shortly after        

Nah.  I raised him a level 100 rock drake... we have like 50 drakes already all level 145+.  The element my tribe makes goes to tribe things like tek gates, transmitter, troughs, genny, bubble etc.  To justify my crafting a Tek Rifle, I spent my own time raising the drake and finding a buyer.  Even though I'm the tribe leader and could probably have just used whatever I wanted, it wouldn't be fair to the tribe.  In the same vein, earning the reputation of jerk by killing dude and keeping the drake and element would probably cost me more in the long run.  Playing as a truthful, fair and reasonable tribe leader has always served me well.

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Damn. This got heated pretty quick. I was just trying to point out how people can come with guns and level 130+ pteranodons and raptor up people who hit metal 5 minutes before. Also a detail that I forgot was that they came to us before, killed me (I was the only one outside so they couldnt get anyone else) and doorcamped us yet didnt get in. They eventually left and I realised they took nothing from me. I have, upon further thinking, realised that one person was drawing a lot of attention to us as he watched us tame our aforementioned 170 trike (he sat there for the 1 and a half hours and watched us kill the level 40+ nakeds that came to punch the trike) he also kept saying "Nice tame ****"  (**** being the name of our tribe which Im starring so we dont get raptored further) and kept bringing us eggs and pointed where our base was because they were looking for a pickup. I walked outside and we both got Fab Sniper headshotted. Yet they didnt take the Carno, Rex or Golden Hespornius Egg, nor our stuff. They came back with C4, blew our door in, despawned the poop, blew the door to the dino pen and killed the tames. Didnt take anything, despawned anything good or useful and that was it. I was one of the 2 tribemates online, my tribemate got killed, knocked and caged. I ran over and managed to kill 2 of their birds as only 1 of them came for my tribemate (but brought 3 birds apparently) he left on one with the other 2 on passive so I piked em. The entire chat was going nuts and telling them to wipe us before. This was purely a show of power though as the alphas got wiped by the admins the night before and upon writing this I realise we were probably the betas if the ones that wiped us were alphas (we jumped onto the lowest populated/best ping server we could find) roughly 20 people on at the highest time. There were 4 of them, 4 of us and there were around 10 different nakeds and maybe 6 randoms in chat in their own tribes. So hey, maybe it was because they thought we were a threat to them even though we werent at all and they were way ahead of us. They didnt believe us when we send we would chill, not raptor with anyone and defend the server from outside raiders. Also I got a message from someone who asked not to be named and some screens that he had wiped that tribe. I dont know what sort of black magic he did to find them and the exact server I was on considering neither of them were named but hey, it happened. Unless they were different people on the same server, with the same names, tame names, levels and base. So thanks T for getting revenge that wasnt needed. And thanks to that salty person who started quoting everyones replies and talking poop for providing a good laugh, youre funny man. Veryy funny

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Play on PC. Play on unnoficial. Official pvp is cancer. Literally, cancer. It's disgusting, stupid, not so much fun for the majority as many here would otherwise claim, and by some standards not even pvp at all. Official pvp servers, and PVE servers at this point given the caps, are really really stupid. I can't even find a word to describe the state of official servers to be quite honest, so I'll put it as simple as I can; official servers are stupid. Waste of energy. Waste of time. Waste of space. Waste of money. Waste of emotional investment, waste of leisure time, waste of the time spent you could otherwise spend playing ANYThING else quite frankly. 

Pvp servers are that stupid. Stupid people play pvp servers unless they are alpha, Chinese, Russian, or stupidly stupid. Stupid people make stupid excuses to justify the state the stupidness on official pvp

It was stupidly designed. I guess that's why people play stupid though, cause apparently stupid is fun. 

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1 hour ago, BaldBudgie said:

I'd love to play on a ps4 unofficial aberration dedicated pvp server, can someone please refer me to one that doesnt have drakes with 10k melee and karkinos with 200k hp?

Unfortunately it doesnt exist, as all nitrado servers are modded to the point of hardly being Ark anymore. 

What a broad statement.

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10 hours ago, Critter said:

Play on PC. Play on unnoficial. Official pvp is cancer. Literally, cancer. It's disgusting, stupid, not so much fun for the majority as many here would otherwise claim, and by some standards not even pvp at all. Official pvp servers, and PVE servers at this point given the caps, are really really stupid. I can't even find a word to describe the state of official servers to be quite honest, so I'll put it as simple as I can; official servers are stupid. Waste of energy. Waste of time. Waste of space. Waste of money. Waste of emotional investment, waste of leisure time, waste of the time spent you could otherwise spend playing ANYThING else quite frankly. 

Pvp servers are that stupid. Stupid people play pvp servers unless they are alpha, Chinese, Russian, or stupidly stupid. Stupid people make stupid excuses to justify the state the stupidness on official pvp

It was stupidly designed. I guess that's why people play stupid though, cause apparently stupid is fun. 

Not to be a sausage but not everyone can play on pc. I would if I could 

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On 07/01/2018 at 3:50 PM, ArkRage said:

Oh? Well considering you assumed everything within your replies I'll take this comment with a pinch of salt. I was simply stating to the op how toxic pvp servers are. Don't see the problem.

So playing PvP is toxic? I still don’t think you understand that. There is no right or wrong, bad or good way to play the game. The mechanics of the game allow it to be what it is. Handcuffs and portable prisons exist for a reason.

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23 minutes ago, InnitG said:

Hey look you're back. Yay! Entertainment

Unpopular opinions are unpopular (popcorn munching intesifies)

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Back at the topic at hand. PVE can get crowded, so I went for private / unofficial, however everything presents a challenge:

- PVP Official:

Challenge: Always get wiped

How to mitigate: Gain trust from other people and join larger tribes (it does take time), less prone to attacks and if rebuilding is needed it will be faster. Having 8 hours a day to play is a plus (I don't).

- PVE Official:

Challenge: Gets crowded and can be troll proving grounds.

How to mitigate: Patience and preset your mind so that you will expect the island will look like garbage, setting expectations soon and low is a great way to ensure you will be pleasantly surprised. Don't get baited by trolls and they lose interest. 

- Unofficial as a player:

Challenge: Servers can go down without noticed and/or rules change often or make way for corrupt admins.

How to mitigate: Check the reputation of a server and their admins, see what their communities give as feedback, but nothing is a sure thing.

- Unofficial as a host: Best option as you dictate when the server goes down (if ever), from a hosts perspective if you can be true to your own rules and make sure it is respected (if you can not cheat for example), your gameplay will be secured, you can back things up.

Challenge: The problem, can get expensive fast.

How to mitigate: Don't give into corruption and be willing to spend some cash into this.

- Dedicated Server (from your home): If you have the machine, you can host a server for other people, this is by far the best option, but I never met anyone that had a server laying around for all Ark maps to run in cluster.

How to mitigate: Be fairly wealthy and willing.

These are obviously no rules, but rather my personal guidelines to set expectations for each scenario.

Cheers   

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On 1/7/2018 at 9:16 AM, DJRone89 said:

Probably your failing to understand the survival aspect of PvP helped determine that decision. “Why is this person attacking me for no reason” - because PvP bruh.

I'm sorry, but this is a cop out.   Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.  This behavior is akin to that of Hitler, Castro, and other historical ....greats....

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What you guys are describing about the harsh reality of PvP official servers, I've experienced in the past too, but they're not always the case/as common as others think. I've played on official servers where every tribe is allied to one another and we all got along for months on end, defending the server from server invaders/hoppers, then there's official PvP Aberration servers where everyone INCLUDING the alpha is friendly unless you break the obvious unwritten rules such as building too close to other established tribes, building on resources like metal spawns, etc. (Sure, that isn't common though.)

People act as if every official pvp server is full of sociopaths, it isn't. It's still possible to get along with the majority of the players on a server just as if you were playing PvE, but without the negative intention behind it ("I can't be attacked or raided on PvE so I'm going to go full asshole.") it's just kinda rare, as some servers are "owned" by mega-tribes where red is dead. I've played on plenty of those types too...

Just take chances.

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39 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

This is true, although the word "necessarily" should be in there before "mean you should".  Truly skillful players will often make wise decisions on who to attack and who not to.  "Attack All The Things" strategies are rarely well thought out, and usually end up in a brief moment of glory followed by boredom and flitting off to another game... or eventual loss to more strategically minded groups of players.

39 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

This behavior is akin to that of Hitler, Castro, and other historical ....greats....

This part is not true, and frankly a somewhat silly thing to say.  Comparing aggressive game play (in a game mode that is hyper competitive by design) to people responsible for real life atrocities does nothing more than give the impression you are vastly over reacting (to put it mildly).  Consider taking a step back and getting some perspective.  it really is only a game, and in this case one where no-holds-barred aggression is a valid tactic.

Edit:  In case it isn't clear, no one is saying YOU need to play in an extremely aggressive manner.  However, if you are going to succeed and be competitive, you do need to be prepared to handle tribes that will play in that manner.

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3 minutes ago, Ranger1 said:

this case one where no-holds-barred aggression is a valid tactic.

It's worth mentioning that it isn't only a valid tactic, it's been the meta in Ark since it's creation. The game is designed to heavily favor and encourage offensive strategies through a number of design choices ranging from next to no meaningful defensive mechanics to the fact that the defensive mechanics that exist are woefully inadequate (Again, by design). 

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8 minutes ago, Ranger1 said:

This is true, although the word "necessarily" should be in there before "mean you should".  Truly skillful players will often make wise decisions on who to attack and who not to.  "Attack All The Things" strategies are rarely well thought out, and usually end up in a brief moment of glory followed by boredom and flitting off to another game... or eventual loss to more strategically minded groups of players.

This part is not true, and frankly a somewhat silly thing to say.  Comparing aggressive game play (in a game mode that is hyper competitive by design) to people responsible for real life atrocities does nothing more than give the impression you are vastly over reacting (to put it mildly).  Consider taking a step back and getting some perspective.  it really is only a game, and in this case one where no-holds-barred aggression is a valid tactic.

Edit:  In case it isn't clear, no one is saying YOU need to play in an extremely aggressive manner.  However, if you are going to succeed and be competitive, you do need to be prepared to handle tribes that will play in that manner.

Yes, it IS only a game, but you play with REAL people.  My simile was a comparison of the "I am doing this because I can, screw everyone else." attitude of PvP to the people who displayed the same type of behavior in real life throughout history.  Acting a certain way toward people because "it's just a game" makes you just as bad as those who did the same in real life.   Sure, you might not have committed genocide or ruined a country, but your attitude is no different.  I'm not against PvP, but the attacking of others without reason beyond "It's PvP!" is simply bullying.  There should be a diplomatic reason behind attacks.  Retaliation is acceptable.  Pre-emptive strike is acceptable.  Wiping for the sake of wiping, is not.  All I'm saying is have a reason.  On the servers I've run, I've always had rules in place to prevent that type of behavior.  I want the option of PvP for those who want to PvP without the worry of someone getting their bases wiped when they don't want to worry about it.

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43 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

Yes, it IS only a game, but you play with REAL people.  My simile was a comparison of the "I am doing this because I can, screw everyone else." attitude of PvP to the people who displayed the same type of behavior in real life throughout history.  Acting a certain way toward people because "it's just a game" makes you just as bad as those who did the same in real life.   Sure, you might not have committed genocide or ruined a country, but your attitude is no different.  I'm not against PvP, but the attacking of others without reason beyond "It's PvP!" is simply bullying.  There should be a diplomatic reason behind attacks.  Retaliation is acceptable.  Pre-emptive strike is acceptable.  Wiping for the sake of wiping, is not.  All I'm saying is have a reason.  On the servers I've run, I've always had rules in place to prevent that type of behavior.  I want the option of PvP for those who want to PvP without the worry of someone getting their bases wiped when they don't want to worry about it.

The biggest problem people have in this game is attachment. Let go of that and treat everything you have as just a tool and you’ll be fine. If you don’t like losing everything you worked for then tribe up bigger to spread the losses because they will still happen. Multiple people working towards a common goal is much better in the long run.

The funny thing in all of this, is that I host an RP orientated PvP server cluster with strict rules. However, I recognise that not everyone wants to play true PvP so making those rules was straight forward.

True PvP is labelled as toxic by those who feel morally obligated to treat this game as they do in the real world but forget it’s just a game. People can play as they please without your moral judgement.

Also never compare real life to video games because it’s a stupid argument.

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18 minutes ago, DJRone89 said:

True PvP is labelled as toxic by those who feel morally obligated to treat this game as they do in the real world but forget it’s just a game. People can play as they please without your moral judgement.

This argument is fine for a private server where everyone playing on it abides by those rules, but there are all types who play on official servers.  Any time you're interacting with REAL people, moral judgement needs to be present.  If the REAL people you're playing with have the same mentality, then that's fine.   If they don't, then it's not.  Yes, it's just a game, but when someone is a bully on a game, they ruin the game for those they bully.  Again, if everyone playing is fine with it, that's one thing, if they're not, then it's a completely different thing.  It also has nothing to do with "Attachment".  The problem is that spending hours doing something to have it ripped away from you by someone being a tool is not fun.  I played on official PvP for a short time.  I had a reasonable base with decent defenses.  I made it a point to be helpful to others and maintain good relations with everyone I came across.   Despite all this, my base was wiped by a large tribe on the server because they just had the idea to run the map and wipe everyone else.  That was the last time I played on official PvP.  It had nothing to do with an attachment to the dinos, it had everything to do with the fact that all of my progress in the game was wasted because someone felt like being a tool.  It flat out ripped all of the fun away from the game for me.  On the other hand, because of griefers on PvE, carrying of wild dinos (something that's extremely useful) and people not in your tribe is prevented.  (The reasons for it are understandable.)  This takes away certain things from PvE players that should be there.  On top of that, the player base can be very toxic still on both sides.  This game is a huge example of a great idea implemented in a way that brings out the absolute worst in people.

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1 hour ago, banggugyangu said:

Yes, it IS only a game, but you play with REAL people.  My simile was a comparison of the "I am doing this because I can, screw everyone else." attitude of PvP to the people who displayed the same type of behavior in real life throughout history.  Acting a certain way toward people because "it's just a game" makes you just as bad as those who did the same in real life.   Sure, you might not have committed genocide or ruined a country, but your attitude is no different.  I'm not against PvP, but the attacking of others without reason beyond "It's PvP!" is simply bullying.  There should be a diplomatic reason behind attacks.  Retaliation is acceptable.  Pre-emptive strike is acceptable.  Wiping for the sake of wiping, is not.  All I'm saying is have a reason.  On the servers I've run, I've always had rules in place to prevent that type of behavior.  I want the option of PvP for those who want to PvP without the worry of someone getting their bases wiped when they don't want to worry about it.

As I have stated in other threads, you are making the mistake of imposing real world social norms on individuals playing by a games rule set. 

You would never body slam someone to the ground because they were in your way in real life, but it's perfectly acceptable when playing (American) football.

You would never shoot a stranger in the head because he got to a vehicle you wanted to drive first, but it's perfectly acceptable in every FPS game you've likely ever played.

You probably would never systematically take every asset a person has with the objective of forcing them into complete bankruptcy and homelessness, however you gleefully do it to your own mother in a game of Monopoly.

When a person is playing a game by the rules there is no negative reflection on a person's character in reality.  It is only if they start breaking those rules in their game play that you can even begin to make any moral judgements about them.  Even then, cheating at checkers (or any other game) is a far cry from equating that behavior with the moral destitution that would be necessary to actually go on a "kill all and burn the rest" spree in real life.

In this scenario, the folks playing hyper aggressively are absolutely playing by the official rules.  The only thing they are in violation of are the restrictions that players like yourself are seeking to impose upon them.  That in no way casts a shadow on their moral compass in reality, anymore than a race car driver pulling ahead and in front of a fellow competitor. 

That is playing by the official rules, just as much as it is perfectly acceptable for you to disrupt the play of the person that is being aggressive by any means you choose to, as long as you stay within the official rules as well.  Players are allowed (and encouraged) to be as aggressive or as cooperative they see fit within those official restrictions.

If a person wishes to make their own version of the official rules they are free to do so on their own server as you have done.  That is EXACTLY what is intended to happen.  Anything else is a voluntary arrangement between players that they are under no obligation to honor, and it is certainly no reflection on their moral character if they choose not to.  Frankly, the only people that would think it was are folks that are having trouble distinguishing actions taken within the rule set of a game from actions taken in reality... and that's a good indicator that they need to take a big step back to gain a little perspective.

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11 minutes ago, Ranger1 said:

As I have stated in other threads, you are making the mistake of imposing real world social norms on individuals playing by a games rule set. 

You would never body slam someone to the ground because they were in your way in real life, but it's perfectly acceptable when playing (American) football.

You would never shoot a stranger in the head because he got to a vehicle you wanted to drive first, but it's perfectly acceptable in every FPS game you've likely ever played.

You probably would never systematically take every asset a person has with the objective of forcing them into complete bankruptcy and homelessness, however you gleefully do it to your own mother in a game of Monopoly.

When a person is playing a game by the rules there is no negative reflection on a person's character in reality.  It is only if they start breaking those rules in their game play that you can even begin to make any moral judgements about them.  Even then, cheating at checkers (or any other game) is a far cry from equating that behavior with the moral destitution that would be necessary to actually go on a "kill all and burn the rest" spree in real life.

In this scenario, the folks playing hyper aggressively are absolutely playing by the official rules.  The only thing they are in violation of are the restrictions that players like yourself are seeking to impose upon them.  That in no way casts a shadow on their moral compass in reality, anymore than a race car driver pulling ahead and in front of a fellow competitor. 

That is playing by the official rules, just as much as it is perfectly acceptable for you to disrupt the play of the person that is being aggressive by any means you choose to, as long as you stay within the official rules as well.  Players are allowed (and encouraged) to be as aggressive or as cooperative they see fit within those official restrictions.

If a person wishes to make their own version of the official rules they are free to do so on their own server as you have done.  That is EXACTLY what is intended to happen.  Anything else is a voluntary arrangement between players that they are under no obligation to honor, and it is certainly no reflection on their moral character if they choose not to.  Frankly, the only people that would think it was are folks that are having trouble distinguishing actions taken within the rule set of a game from actions taken in reality... and that's a good indicator that they need to take a big step back to gain a little perspective.

Ark is a game without rules (for the most part).  Tackling in football is more than "part of the rules" it the basis of the game, as is killing enemies in a FPS, and financial domination in Monopoly.  Complete wiping of some random tribe in PvP ARK is NOT the basis of ARK.  It's quite arguable that following the narrative of ARK is the basis of ARK, as is also the objective of pure survival.  In the latter of those 2 arguments, ARK is more of a social experiment than a game.  In the realms of a social experiment, the results are that society is a failure.  When presented with a situation of little-to-no consequence, the desire to be selfish overcomes any social morality.  The same problem is prevalent in games like  GTA Online.  You can't join a public server and "do your own thing" unless your own thing is running around in a bloodbath shootout.  To some, that may be enjoyable, but to others it takes the fun out of the game.  Is it "against the rules"?  not at all.  Is it a crappy thing to do?  Very much so.  The fact of the matter is that there's only one way to solve such a problem in ARK, which is to have servers that are moderated outside of those that are completely untouched.  This would provide a platform for either type of player.  Again, this isn't an anti-PvP type of stance.  It's a PvP with a reason type of stance.  I also don't expect such an outcome to ever come to fruition.

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30 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

Ark is a game without rules

I think he's getting it!

30 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

ARK is more of a social experiment than a game.

Nevermind.

As others have said, it's a video game. If you want to RP Ned Flanders, that's your prerogative...but you're going to get shot in the face a lot.

If getting shot in the face a lot takes the fun out of Ark for any player, they can move to unofficials, play PvE, or find a game that's more akin to their sensibilities. This implied notion you're purveying indicating people playing online video games should be nicer to each other is kind of strange and 100% contradictory to the intent of the games you've used as an example.

 

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57 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

Ark is a game without rules (for the most part).  Tackling in football is more than "part of the rules" it the basis of the game, as is killing enemies in a FPS, and financial domination in Monopoly.  Complete wiping of some random tribe in PvP ARK is NOT the basis of ARK.

On Official PVP servers that is absolutely incorrect.  It is one viable and completely acceptable way to achieve your goals.  Anything else is a personal fantasy of yours... and that's perfectly fine as long as you realize that and understand that those are YOUR house rules and only apply to your server.  They do NOT apply to official servers.

57 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

ARK is more of a social experiment than a game.  In the realms of a social experiment, the results are that society is a failure. 

While you can create a mockery of a social experiment around most any survival game, that doesn't mean it has any merit in relation to reality.  Any one of your instructors, if they are worthy of the title, will also happily tell you that.  Any competitive game where socially unacceptable acts are possible as part of the normal game play (such as harsh physical contact, assault, theft, killing, etc.) is not a valid reflection of society or social norms.  It never has been.  For example the goal in chess is to eliminate or hold hostage the opposing king, by eliminating their subordinates by any means possible in the game.  You could make quite a social commentary out of that... if you choose to take complete leave of rational or analytical thought.

57 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

Is it "against the rules"?  not at all.  Is it a crappy thing to do?  Very much so.

According to your own house rules, sure.  I have little doubt that the VAST majority of PVP players would disagree with you completely.  They signed on for a brutal, no holds barred, survival of the fittest type of game play promised in any published description or review of the PVP aspect of this game.  On official PVP servers their opinion is just as valid as yours, and frankly more so.  They have good reason for their expectations, while you've created yours whole cloth out of wishful thinking and personal preferences.

57 minutes ago, banggugyangu said:

The fact of the matter is that there's only one way to solve such a problem in ARK, which is to have servers that are moderated outside of those that are completely untouched.  This would provide a platform for either type of player.

Which is exactly what we have, they are called Unofficial PVP servers.  There, house rules and personal preferences reign supreme, and a much higher level of moderation is possible.  Somewhere in between that and regular official game play ORP servers are available as well.

You already have what you're looking for available to you, as you well know.

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Hello,

This is exactly what makes ARK PvP so fun. Wiping foundations and killing all tames. If anyone have a problem with ARK PvP they need to step back and really think how to avoid that from happening again. It is possible not to get wiped and have all your tames killed. Just do not do the same mistake two times. If your official server is filled with xcons just ask in global chat. if the answer is not to your liking change the server or take the fight.

I noticed another tread that stated how to be unraidable. Well they have a name Purlovia.

Hope it helps someone.

Regards,

Ariana

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