PartyCat Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Can the Reaper King get mutations when bursting out of your chest? I wondered what if you get a mutated Reaper King, is this possible to get color or stat mutations when it cames out?? Thanks for the answers (If anyone write an answer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Since there's no way to inbreed them, I am gonna go out on a limb and say "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSynryze Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 However, the devs have confirmed Rock Drakes have a chance to pop out with a mutated color zone. So it could very well be possible for reapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh4rk Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 On 12/26/2017 at 4:37 PM, banggugyangu said: Since there's no way to inbreed them, I am gonna go out on a limb and say "No." Inbreeding has zero effect on getting new mutations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 No. HOWEVER: This is a natural color when I was spawning them in singleplayer. So its almost like a mut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linja Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Clearly YES! My Reaper King came out with a color mutation from the Christmas event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Sh4rk said: Inbreeding has zero effect on getting new mutations Inbreeding is what CAUSES mutations, unless the devs actually program it in for dinos that can be raised, but not bred. @Linja Christmas dinos aren't exactly mutations, but grats on a christmas reaper. I'm not sure how much I like the super-bright green on them, though. (I think the normal black shell with the green skin and red belly would have looked awesome, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 @Linja grats on the euh.....colorful reaper.... But I'd attribute it to the event running. If someone get's a colored reaper outside of the event, then we know for sure they can mutate on birth. Rock Drakes can do it with their eggs, so it wouldn't be unlikely for reaper kings to have a similar mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linja Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 i dont like the color either but it sure is uncommon to have a reaper colored like this, atleast for the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 45 minutes ago, banggugyangu said: Inbreeding is what CAUSES mutations, unless the devs actually program it in for dinos that can be raised, but not bred. @Linja Christmas dinos aren't exactly mutations, but grats on a christmas reaper. I'm not sure how much I like the super-bright green on them, though. (I think the normal black shell with the green skin and red belly would have looked awesome, though.) Its not inbreeding. Its just regular breeding. It is very possible to get mutations without the parent being related to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I have not seen a single bit of evidence of that being the case. If someone has a picture of a dino with mutations (not just color, but the actual mutation screen) and no inbreeding on the family tree), then I'll concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, banggugyangu said: I have not seen a single bit of evidence of that being the case. If someone has a picture of a dino with mutations (not just color, but the actual mutation screen) and no inbreeding on the family tree), then I'll concede. Sadly all of my breeding days are on my demolished legacy server. But one of the clearest is literally the first yutyrannus egg i have hatched from tamed parents. Will take a look at what my tribe has just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyrodz Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, banggugyangu said: I have not seen a single bit of evidence of that being the case. If someone has a picture of a dino with mutations (not just color, but the actual mutation screen) and no inbreeding on the family tree), then I'll concede. Hes right it is true, they do not need to inbred to mutate. This happened to me with Theris, Direwolves, and Rex's. If I were at home I could provide a screenshot. All babies regardless of parents have like a chance to either mutate, be twins, or triplets. Unforunately you can also get a mutation on the lesser stat as well, which is basically useless unless you like the color. Every stat mutation comes with a color mutation, but on some dinos the color region is not available. Also the color "mutation" can sometimes be a color in the wild, just different from their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I look forward to your screenshots. As I said, I'll need to see it to believe it. Biologically, it would make sense for a small chance to mutate by default that's amplified by inbreeding, but I haven't seen any mutations in all my breeding except via inbreeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, banggugyangu said: I look forward to your screenshots. As I said, I'll need to see it to believe it. Biologically, it would make sense for a small chance to mutate by default that's amplified by inbreeding, but I haven't seen any mutations in all my breeding except via inbreeding. Having inbreeding alter the percentage chance of a mutation was discussed as something that might one day be implemented, but currently that is not the case. Anyone that has done a series on breeding (including myself) can confirm this. There are a number of good videos on the subject, probably among the more popular ones is done by Tagback TV. Yes, in many cases inbreeding happens as it's easier to just hang on to suitable female offspring instead of taming a complete stable from the wild... however that is done only for convenience, not out of necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 As I said, I've not experienced it myself. I'm willing to concede once I see evidence. I haven't personally done a TON of inbreeding, but (anecdotal as it is) I've seen no mutations over about 500 unrelated breedings and 3 or 4 mutations over about 20 inbreedings. Not saying that's not coincidental, but that's the results I've had personaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldBudgie Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 hours ago, banggugyangu said: I have not seen a single bit of evidence of that being the case. If someone has a picture of a dino with mutations (not just color, but the actual mutation screen) and no inbreeding on the family tree), then I'll concede. You are 100% wrong. Got a color mutation on my very first megalania baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, BaldBudgie said: You are 100% wrong. Got a color mutation on my very first megalania baby. Again.... provide picture proof and I will gladly concede... I've said that 3 times before now in this very thread. Your anecdotal evidence goes against MY OWN anecdotal evidence. Provide real proof. Take a screenshot showing no inbreeding with mutations. If you're right, and I'm NOT saying you're wrong, then that should take 30 seconds tops to do. Again.. I'm NOT saying you're wrong. I'm saying it goes against my own experience and want to see real proof before I change my stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatrasmayer Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 parent 1: https://gyazo.com/a170aa27f2d94445826e708eb9e5421f parent 2: https://gyazo.com/179648a546aba8b85bb6e07db205a0bb mutant: https://gyazo.com/12572a86088d36cbc0e27a86918cdc9a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellao Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I like how this guy is so stubborn, many of us breeders know very well there's no need for incest breeding to be granted mutations, and as a breeder you get to the point where you will need to use a clean parent on one side to be granted anymore mutations on that bloodline. It's like telling someone the earth is not flat but they are asking for evidence for the earth being not flat.. Evidence literally everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The reason it feels like inbreeding gives you mutations is because its kind of a necessity to inbreed to get a high enough population of breeders to get the 2% or so chance of a mut in the first place. It can be achieved by taming many wilds but people tend to not really do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldBudgie Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 hours ago, banggugyangu said: Again.... provide picture proof and I will gladly concede... I've said that 3 times before now in this very thread. Your anecdotal evidence goes against MY OWN anecdotal evidence. Provide real proof. Take a screenshot showing no inbreeding with mutations. If you're right, and I'm NOT saying you're wrong, then that should take 30 seconds tops to do. Again.. I'm NOT saying you're wrong. I'm saying it goes against my own experience and want to see real proof before I change my stance. I dont care what you think. Lol! My message is just so that other ppl with a functional brain can see that you're spreading false rumors. Why dont you provide picture proof that your mutated dino is always inbred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, BaldBudgie said: I dont care what you think. Lol! My message is just so that other ppl with a functional brain can see that you're spreading false rumors. Why dont you provide picture proof that your mutated dino is always inbred? I'm not spreading anything. I'm stating that my own experience goes against what you're saying. I'm asking for actual proof otherwise and saying that, if said proof be provided (which is STUPIDLY easy to provide, as it would be a screenshot showing the ancestry list [which also shows mutations]) I would concede the point. All you have done is made the opposite claim as my own without providing ANY proof otherwise and acted like everyone should take your word as fact. Provide Proof. It's really simple to do. Also, a wise man once said "The first person to result to insults lost the argument." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banggugyangu Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Gatrasmayer said: parent 1: https://gyazo.com/a170aa27f2d94445826e708eb9e5421f parent 2: https://gyazo.com/179648a546aba8b85bb6e07db205a0bb mutant: https://gyazo.com/12572a86088d36cbc0e27a86918cdc9a Thank you. I don't know why so many others had to be stubborn about this. As I promised, I concede the argument and stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomhoofdalienkid Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2-1-2018 at 1:10 AM, Linja said: Clearly YES! My Reaper King came out with a color mutation from the Christmas event Did the parent have this colour when you got pregnant or was it totally random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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