Palenor Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Olivar said: The problem lies in the 30 seconds cooldown, on which your 15000 health dinosaurs is going to be pushed to death faster then the 21000 one. We swap out our Theri's as their health drops, we only have 9 on it at one time, prevents Dragon from flying all over the place. Once he lands he stays put for us. Once you have 19 Theri's all pushing at its feet, he jumps/ flies all over the place. We usually have it dead on the second landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Palenor said: We swap out our Theri's as their health drops, we only have 9 on it at one time, prevents Dragon from flying all over the place. Once he lands he stays put for us. Once you have 19 Theri's all pushing at its feet, he jumps/ flies all over the place. We usually have it dead on the second landing. Will give that a spin next time. We usually force it to fly so we can have the cakes kick in to heal us all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palenor Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, Olivar said: Will give that a spin next time. We usually force it to fly so we can have the cakes kick in to heal us all up Never thought of it that way It is nice to be able to disengage from the fight and ride over to get a Fresh Theri as needed. The only time things get exciting is when he lands in the middle of 10 passive Theri's sitting at spawn in. But you whistle attack and he pops right up and away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslick Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Interesting, wonder of the flee mechanic on Dragon is the same with Manticore? Right now on rag the dragon stays put with 14 claws hacking away until it dies. Manti flies up 2-3 times but has 19 max dinos biting it. Wonder if we put less dinos it will fly less at the cost of DPS? Or is the AI programmed for flight at burst DPS? This information is goldddddd if we can find out somehow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, dslick said: Interesting, wonder of the flee mechanic on Dragon is the same with Manticore? Right now on rag the dragon stays put with 14 claws hacking away until it dies. Manti flies up 2-3 times but has 19 max dinos biting it. Wonder if we put less dinos it will fly less at the cost of DPS? Or is the AI programmed for flight at burst DPS? This information is goldddddd if we can find out somehow.. yes it does. if you crowd it in simulating the old pinning it takes off. Even on SE. we do hard manti with 10 rexes even with only 3 riders and nuke him. rexes are only 414m 11.2k hp. all it has take us for any hard boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoGrunf Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 8:57 AM, Olivar said: Which is a lame excuse, since my tribe is 3 people in size and we did Alpha Ascension. You can frigging solo the dragon fight. on pvp officials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, OttoGrunf said: on pvp officials? lol no he is dedicated server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palenor Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 4:50 PM, dslick said: Interesting, wonder of the flee mechanic on Dragon is the same with Manticore? Right now on rag the dragon stays put with 14 claws hacking away until it dies. Manti flies up 2-3 times but has 19 max dinos biting it. Wonder if we put less dinos it will fly less at the cost of DPS? Or is the AI programmed for flight at burst DPS? This information is goldddddd if we can find out somehow.. This thought of the Dragon mechanic, flying away if too many are bunched up on him, is solely based on experience and observation over countless battles on Legacy and New servers. The problem with unridden Dino's is they push all the way into the Dragon (all Bosses for that matter) and when you have 19 of anything nipping at its legs up close, POP up he goes. (New anti-pin code mabye?) If you back off with only 10 riders NOT pushing in all the way, he has a HUGE hitbox, then he sits there and just spins around dealing damage more evenly around to everyone. If only there was a way to make unridden dinos stand back at the edge of the hitbox, fights would be over in 4-5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, Palenor said: This thought of the Dragon mechanic, flying away if too many are bunched up on him, is solely based on experience and observation over countless battles on Legacy and New servers. The problem with unridden Dino's is they push all the way into the Dragon (all Bosses for that matter) and when you have 19 of anything nipping at its legs up close, POP up he goes. (New anti-pin code mabye?) If you back off with only 10 riders NOT pushing in all the way, he has a HUGE hitbox, then he sits there and just spins around dealing damage more evenly around to everyone. If only there was a way to make unridden dinos stand back at the edge of the hitbox, fights would be over in 4-5 minutes. there is boss, have em follow and let the riders engage first and protect the zone. this is how we do it. we utilize it on manticore and have now figured out positioning to bait him on down and keep him down a long long time by blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoGrunf Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, bigfishrob said: lol no he is dedicated server what a joke of boosting here with that in that case. i m gonna do solo ascension tomorrow on single player and boost here how its easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 33 minutes ago, OttoGrunf said: what a joke of boosting here with that in that case. i m gonna do solo ascension tomorrow on single player and boost here how its easy You're the same kind of person as SmallPondFish I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoGrunf Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, Olivar said: You're the same kind of person as SmallPondFish I take it? dont know who or what smallpondfish supposed to be, but it that is insult, zou insulted yourself for boosting that you are some super player and yet you play pve (dedicated servers are pve even if players pretend they are pvp). pve in ark is 0 skill, all grind ps: i usually like your comments, so lets not push this further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Wow! Okay boys and girls, lets be very careful not to turn this into a PVP vs PVE thread... and especially avoid voicing non-factual and condescending comments towards each other. Note, this applies equally to everyone in the thread. Otherwise this thread will go away, and I'd rather not see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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