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[Fixed in v275.4] The silent Giga nerf


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On 2017-11-26 at 5:05 AM, Vaskur said:

DOes not Change the fact, that 100% imprint is kinda like !55 score in a exam. it´s the best outcome and you cant expect that everyone gets it or you get this top score with only doing the bare minimum. but still people complain about not being able to get 100% with ease.

 

To be fair, this post has nothing to do with if you should imprint or not, it has to do with whether the dinos had a nerf or it's a bug.

 

On 2017-11-24 at 9:24 PM, LouSpowells said:

 

You think raising and 100% imprinting a Giga with official rates is some sort of accomplishment? 

Folks, report it as a bug. Use the bug report feature. If a tame is doing something it didn't do before, and if there was no mention of a change, then customers should assume it was not intended and report it as a bug. I promise you that another BF in the forums isn't going to get the issue the attention it needs to be addressed or explained. 

 

Wow, across all thread's I've seen you, you are consistently really condescending and rude to anyone not agreeing with you. I really appreciate your efforts to show people the right direction (by asking them to report a bug, voicing complaints in a more constructive manner), but those efforts are nullified by your tone and you end up doing what you often tell people not to do. I can't tell you what to do, I can only tell you I'm so tired of your rudeness I rarely read your posts anymore (and guessing that if I do it, many others do it as well) and that your efforts amount to nothing when paired with the condescending tone you employ.

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@Kimsie i defintely took offense to what he said.Dont try and tell me hand feeding for 28 hours and then waking up at 4am,logging into ark before work and at work on my laptop during lunch etc etc for 12 days that i didnt accomplish something.Which gives me the right to know if this nerf was intended and be annoyed if it is.

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15 minutes ago, edskelly said:

@Kimsie i defintely took offense to what he said.Dont try and tell me hand feeding for 28 hours and then waking up at 4am,logging into ark before work and at work on my laptop during lunch etc etc for 12 days that i didnt accomplish something.Which gives me the right to know if this nerf was intended and be annoyed if it is.

I respect you for showing that commitment, however this should not be the standard/requirement for playing a video game.

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if you even have patchnotes (they can be bought for 0.99 euro per patch .. so start saving allready lol)

then all these stealth nerfs are not even in hence the name stealth nerf

they just don't care about the community

reason for stealth nerf, because the community "would not notice"

yet it's pretty obvious to notice, community becomes angry that is was never written down with dramatic outcome (loss of giga/you name it)

 

 

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5 minutes ago, raptorjesus666 said:

if you even have patchnotes (they can be bought for 0.99 euro per patch .. so start saving allready lol)

then all these stealth nerfs are not even in hence the name stealth nerf

they just don't care about the community

reason for stealth nerf, because the community "would not notice"

yet it's pretty obvious to notice, community becomes angry that is was never written down with dramatic outcome (loss of giga/you name it)

 

 

Can you take the salt back to Reddit?
My computer's fans are clogging up with the salt spreading everywhere.

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12 hours ago, Cowgirl said:

Has this been happening on PVP AND PVE or just one or the other? (just wondering cause I havent noticed anything, I am on PVE)

Its definitely on PvE. I just tested it out this morning by attacking a Kentro. Instant Rage and instant dismount for me.

 

Funny thing is, since taming my boy I find great fun in chewing up rock elementals. Rage bar hardly moves even when having to spend the time chewing up the 140+ ones. As for tians, I will leave that for later. It took long enough for my 130 to spawn, and I am not in the mood to wait for another to spawn.

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Gigas are currently enraging very easily, especially against Titans, wild Gigas and Kentros(I think this has been a thing for a while against Kentos).

100%imprinted with 100 armor saddle will enrage after 2-3 attacks from a titan and giga, and 1 attack from a kentro. They are also enraging very quickly from ranged weapons but I'm not sure on the specifics.

Could we get a response from WC acknowledging this bug with an eta of a fix or clarification that it was a stealth nerf not mentioned anywhere?

Tickets were put in over a week ago with no replies and there was a post in the bugs section that did not attract an official reply.

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On 11/23/2017 at 7:10 AM, DarkstarRising said:

So, you nerfed gigas to enrage from pretty much anything. A 100% imprinted giga with 36k hp, a 120 armor saddle, and the imprinted rider will enrage from 3 shots out of my 290 shotgun. The same giga minus the rider bonus, same hp and saddle, will enrage from 4 players firing stone arrows from ascended crossbows. Weve had a giga enrage to an alpha carno while out gettting meat for the babies. This is absolutely ridiculous considering the 2 weeks spent to raise them, and now theyre completely worthless. Theyre actually a liability to even own. All of that aside, i could have dealt with these changes and accepted your reasoning behind it, except the devs havent said a word about. Nothing on the forums, reddit, patch notes. Nothing. With the turret patch i thought you went too far, but i was the one in my tribe trying to calm people down and explain how they were at least communicating with the community and gathering feedback. I literally dont know what to say about this. Raising and imprinting a giga isnt easy, they want imprint every 3 or 4 hours for 2 WEEKS. Thats alot of lost sleep and logging on during inconvenient times, yet we still do it because we enjoyed the dino and playing the game with them. Thanks for wasting my time.....

How did it enrange from alpha carno? And engraging from 3 people shooting flame arrows just seem ludicrous.

I noticed no such change.

 

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All though that would explain why my allies werent using gigas during pvp

If it really was patched, prolly something that has to do with tek helmet for giga in the future updates section. 

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On 11/23/2017 at 4:27 PM, DarkstarRising said:

yea, sure thats all true. up until 2 or 3 days ago. go try and fight a titan now, record it, lets see how that goes

I fought a titan. I used 2 gigas, and a boss rex. The boss rex had the two gigas on follow, and yeah, they raged, but raged on the Titan. All good, and a successful battle.

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7 hours ago, Vaskur said:

since this sin´t the first time something like that happened, i´d finally like to see every change in detail and with exact values written down in every patchnote... what´s so hard about that?

That's the point of a NINJA nerf, they don't want to say it out loud so that they don't bring it to peoples attention and maybe people wont notice.

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On 11/23/2017 at 10:14 AM, Wazzamaniac said:

Except the titanosaur conveniently hits them all at once.

This game will never be balanced in terms of pack dinos because of things like titans or gigas with huge aoes (gigas can actually bite behind them). In a realistic setting titans could only stomp whatever is directly under their feet. And gigas could only really bite one target at once (albeit killing it instantly). Pack dinos would then use tactics such as flanking, which are pretty much meaningless against such creatures.

If you've ever seen videos on youtube about 100 [insert dino here] vs giga, you will see that everything dies without ever reaching the giga just because it can hit and kill about 10-20 at the same time with an aoe 10 times the size of it's mouth, whereas they logically should able to swarm and tear it apart (for example, rexes) 

Maybe they should make it so that the more targets are hit with an aoe, the less damage each individual takes.

i dont think they can actually bite behind them anymore. i went after a titan the other day the way i used to on legacy. walk away with the titan head bobbing over shoulder and bite would consistently hit his head...... not anymore. now you have to wait and he has to be in stomp range from this angle to hit the titan head. I suspect there was a good bit of tweaking done and not a peep spoke.

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Hello,

All this talk made us tame the untameable GiGa today 2X. Lots of supposed bugs but as we tamed it using 730ish tranqarrows solo. One player just distracting the beast. It runs more easy if not distracted.  Tranq-cross bow 160-210ish damage.

As it finally was down. We opened the inventory and the torpor did not move, frozen for about a minute.Thinking-> O well it will be easy then. But as usual it rolled down 400 units a second at least. Berries 700 at each time just to avoid the bugs we read about but did not see any other bugs than the initial freeze.

Finally tamed we named it. its a secret, the name that is.

Taking it back to the barn with two Rex escorts. It did or Do rage with just one hit from the kentro spike dino i.e. Kentrosaurus. Might have been more hits but it seamed like a very fast dismount. Did not die, 200 health character.

Several new and fresh Gigantosaurus plus a few Quetzal spawned or for us was noticed just after tamed, we did not move for 3 hours as we had trouble making the saddle.

Making the saddle, lots of metal ingots even more fiber and crazy amounts of hide (9600). The smithy did not make room, tried the fabricator but also lacking slots, knowing it is not craftable there and then moved into the castoroides-smithy. But not enough weight to hold the metal ingots. Just a primitive was the only way to save the day.

Finally inside and safe we wait for a mate.

Regards,

Ariana

 

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3 hours ago, ArianaGaming said:

 

Making the saddle, lots of metal ingots even more fiber and crazy amounts of hide (9600). The smithy did not make room, tried the fabricator but also lacking slots, knowing it is not craftable there and then moved into the castoroides-smithy. But not enough weight to hold the metal ingots. Just a primitive was the only way to save the day.

Finally inside and safe we wait for a mate.

Regards,

Ariana

 

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need a tek replicator to fit anything ascendant, sadly

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