ForzaProiettile Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 From looking at all the videos showcasing the Wing Suit it is pretty clear this thing is less like a glider and more like a plane/flyer. It hardly loses any altitude as its going forward which means there will be really very little functional difference between using that and a flyer from regular ARK. I sincerely hope the amount of altitude you drop from using it is much higher then shown in the videos, otherwise you will end up with the same problem you have in ARK where everyone moves on flyers unless they are farming. Aberration seems to be an attempt by the ARK devs to end the flyer domination mode that ARK has sadly become but in order to succeed you need to give ground dinos/players viable options not to travel around in a wingsuit and so far I've seen none. There will be little point to the grapple hook and zipline if this thing stays the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, ForzaProiettile said: From looking at all the videos showcasing the Wing Suit it is pretty clear this thing is less like a glider and more like AWESOME! It hardly loses any altitude as its going forward which means there will be SO MUCH MOARRRRRR AWESOME! I sincerely hope the amount of altitude you drop from using it is much higher then shown in the videos, otherwise you will end up with not as much awesome as otherwise. Aberration seems to be an attempt by the ARK devs to end the flyer domination mode that ARK has sadly become but in order to succeed you need to give ground dinos/players more frequent options <negative deleted> to travel around in a wingsuit and so far I've seen none since the DLC has not yet been released. There will be little point to the grapple hook and zipline if this thing stays the way it is....ya know...not yet released. Fixed that for you. That is MY opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, ForzaProiettile said: From looking at all the videos showcasing the Wing Suit it is pretty clear this thing is less like a glider and more like a plane/flyer. It hardly loses any altitude as its going forward which means there will be really very little functional difference between using that and a flyer from regular ARK. I sincerely hope the amount of altitude you drop from using it is much higher then shown in the videos, otherwise you will end up with the same problem you have in ARK where everyone moves on flyers unless they are farming. Aberration seems to be an attempt by the ARK devs to end the flyer domination mode that ARK has sadly become but in order to succeed you need to give ground dinos/players viable options not to travel around in a wingsuit and so far I've seen none. There will be little point to the grapple hook and zipline if this thing stays the way it is. Dude....it's not even out yet...it'll probably be changed by release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z0mbie Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Gotta love it. The expansion isn't even out yet and people are already calling for nerfs. SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaProiettile Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, Z0mbie said: Gotta love it. The expansion isn't even out yet and people are already calling for nerfs. SMH. Well given how long it took them to come to the conclusion that Flyers and Clubs were mightily OP (2 years) I figured I would start early with something that is quite evidentially OP/Unbalanced so that hopefully come release they will have made it balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archone Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 How is it unbalanced? I'm sorry but being able to glide really far does not create any unbalance at all. Ziplines will still be useful, as will grapples. Gliding ≠ Flying Not to mention the fact that you won't have the added strength and health of a flyer. It's asinine to ask for a nerf for something you've never even used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh4rk Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 You won't be able to go straight up from the ground, so functionally, the wingsuits are very different from a flyer mount, not to mention the lack of ability to pick up people and small/medium tames (which may very well be possible with graps, to be fair). I think once aberration is out you will be glad about how (presumably) useful they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshi Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 You didnt even played the game. You still forget that flying person is kinda easy to shut down. Not even speaking about slow turning radius so if you bumb into turrets you are dead.And then another point is you need dinos to carry resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Captnmorgan Posted November 17, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2017 So watching 5 minutes of video you have already concluded that it is overpowered. Considering you have never played with the wing suite. It seems legit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacred Demon Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Flying around in a wingsuit is way more vulnerable than a flyer on the other servers. You are limited in your character carry weight, have to jump off a high point/climb a wall first, and you need something to power it, and your HP if hit by turrets is limited to your character. Also we do not know the resource costs of the suits and they are likely to be expensive. With caves you have limited flying movement anyways so it should not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaProiettile Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 19 hours ago, Sacred Demon said: Flying around in a wingsuit is way more vulnerable than a flyer on the other servers. You are limited in your character carry weight, have to jump off a high point/climb a wall first, and you need something to power it, and your HP if hit by turrets is limited to your character. Also we do not know the resource costs of the suits and they are likely to be expensive. With caves you have limited flying movement anyways so it should not be an issue. The point is your still a "flyer" which is something Aberration was meant to be doing differently ie encouraging people not to use flying mounts/flying as a means of getting around. The Wing Suit will undo all their hard work they have put in making ziplines and rock climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacred Demon Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The point is your still a "flyer" which is something Aberration was meant to be doing differently ie encouraging people not to use flying mounts/flying as a means of getting around. The Wing Suit will undo all their hard work they have put in making ziplines and rock climbing.... Or people will need to use zip lines and rock climbing to get to a point where they can glide. They said no flying mounts not no flying/gliding at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/18/2017 at 9:51 AM, ForzaProiettile said: The point is your still a "Glider" which is more accurate. Fixed that for you....cause you were wrong to call gliding flying as was the poster you quoted. Wing suits glide, not fly. That IS what they were going for. No flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshi Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 18. 11. 2017 at 6:51 PM, ForzaProiettile said: The point is your still a "flyer" which is something Aberration was meant to be doing differently ie encouraging people not to use flying mounts/flying as a means of getting around. The Wing Suit will undo all their hard work they have put in making ziplines and rock climbing. You are also not "flying" because you can't just hang in mid air. If you will try to stop forward movement you will fall down as rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Did anyone notice if the wing suits use stamina to operate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archone Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's not flying!! Quit acting like it is. It should drain stamina equal to using a parachute... As my childhood hero once said "That wasn't flying!... It was FALLING, with style" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Parachutes use stamina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archone Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Midnight_ said: Parachutes use stamina? My meaning was the wingsuits should use zero. Parachutes use zero, and wingsuits should match. Sorry for implying and not expressing directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshi Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Midnight_ said: Did anyone notice if the wing suits use stamina to operate? They didnt use any stamina in Twitchcon videos. 5 hours ago, Midnight_ said: Parachutes use stamina? Nope, they dont use stamina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted November 21, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2017 I understand you feel you are trying to get ahead of the development and hope that they make adjustments, but you are trying to force adjustments to something you have had zero experience of and feel you have the qualifications to call it OP and unbalanced. 1. You can't fly with it you can only glide. 2. You can't glide from the ground up. 3. You have to climb/zipline to higher ground to use the glider. 4. The glider has no attack mechanism. 5. You do lose altitude, but I believe you can regain altitude by swooping as seen in the videos. 6. The problem with flyers was mainly the speed, I doubt that the glider will have a speed stat so everyone using gliders will go at the same speed. 7. If you see someone on a glider simply point your firearm and shoot lol as they won't be able to speed off into the distance. Next up will be Rock Drake OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You can zipline upward?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted November 21, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Midnight_ said: You can zipline upward?!?!?! Don't think so, but I could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the zipline is not electrical powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowletAlex Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, GP said: Don't think so, but I could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the zipline is now electrical power. I’m pretty sure default zip line isn’t powered and can only go downhill, but you can get a motor which you attach to your pants that allows you to move up and down at will and use a gun, so long as you have gas in your inventory. Also, devs did mention the glide suit needing a little balance because it was possible to gain altitude nearly indefinitely, albeit very slowly, by jerking down and going up again. This was during the extra life stream, so they’ve probably fixed it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_ Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, GP said: 3. You have to climb/zipline to higher ground to use the glider. 4 hours ago, GP said: Don't think so, but I could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the zipline is not electrical powered. Ok.....so you "misspoke" then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted November 21, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Midnight_ said: Ok.....so you "misspoke" then? I didn't mis-speak, you are just thinking inside a small box and not outside the box. There may be areas where you cannot climb to get to higher ground, therefore you may need to zipline to a different area to continue climbing, and you may have to do that several times depending on what the area is like, so yes ziplining may be required to get to higher ground combined with climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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