GerbilRex Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Welcome to PVP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadgiga Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, SmokeyB said: Ha ha funniest post of the day, but I'm gonna be nice, I'm gonna tell you to just keep trying and keep playing, everyone gets wiped sometimes, even the mega tribes and those dudes on the 300 rex have all had bases wiped, and I'd bet they have had bigger stronger bases than yours wiped. That is the nature of the game, how boring would it be if noone ever got raided? Just rebuild and carry on, if you are friends with the alpha you should be OK, ask them for stuff to get started, it's even worse when the alpha wipes you because you have to leave the server too. It is a persistent open world sandbox game where people can do whatever they like, don't hate on them guys they are just trying to have fun, they have already built their Base and tookover their server, now they take spare dinos to raid other servers, it's nothing personal, they would have attacked any Base they came across. You should see it as a goal for future progression. First get established on a server, then take over the server, make an alliance and rule the server however you want, then breed an army of super dinos and cross server raid., that is arks end game on a pvp server. Think how much fun they had, Killing your stuff and listening to you cry in chat, you too will be having that same kind of fun one day but first you need to survive. Build defences, build hidden, tame some strong dinos yourself., them when you are ready you can go and get revenge on them. On a side note you got raided by one rex and some c4 not a mega tribe, there was lots of things you could have done, you could have called the servers alpha to help you, most alphas love fighting trolls to protect noobs it makes them feel good, you could have tried to fight back, a ptera can pick the Rex ridder off and kill him leaving the Rex helpless, or you could have made weapons, rockets and rifles would have stopped the Rex in his tracks, or you could build defences spam plant x everywhere and put up some turrets. The truth is if they raided you with one rex whatever the level they probably could have done the same on foot anyway. Keep playing it gets better, I'd you want to pvp then don't get upset when someone more experienced pvps you. Its like getting killed on cod and complaining that it's unfair because the other guy has been playing longer and knows the map better, you don't quit you keep on playing till you know what to do and start to win. This I all tru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrod43 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I wonder if the OP makes posts like these every time he's new to a game and his ineptitude and inexperience get him wrecked. "Luigi shot a blue shell from 4th place and passed me 20 feet from the finish line. MARIOKART ARE GARBAGE AND NEED TO HE FIX!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VortexReapz Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Dylan1602 said: That has got to be the best read of the week. You definitely don't know the alpha if you've been smashed up that easily. And I place bets you had minimal defenses to even slow them down. This game is pvp, if you can't get big enough to compete with the big boys, go rogue. Hide in forests and build weapons, then go kill a tame of theirs without them noticing, you may even get a kick from it and understand why people go around raiding. But to slate the entire game because your base gets smashed by cross servers is very ignorant and salty, I'm sure if the trolls saw this post it would triple their enjoyment. Possibly my favorite thing though is this person has specifically made an account just to rant about this. Golden. the thing is you can't stay long enough to get full defences up we gad 30 PSX and 10 turrets and they just transfer some poop and kill us the game doesn't like low levels and we did know the alphas it wasn't them that raided us twat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VortexReapz Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 hours ago, SmokeyB said: Ha ha funniest post of the day, but I'm gonna be nice, I'm gonna tell you to just keep trying and keep playing, everyone gets wiped sometimes, even the mega tribes and those dudes on the 300 rex have all had bases wiped, and I'd bet they have had bigger stronger bases than yours wiped. That is the nature of the game, how boring would it be if noone ever got raided? Just rebuild and carry on, if you are friends with the alpha you should be OK, ask them for stuff to get started, it's even worse when the alpha wipes you because you have to leave the server too. It is a persistent open world sandbox game where people can do whatever they like, don't hate on them guys they are just trying to have fun, they have already built their Base and tookover their server, now they take spare dinos to raid other servers, it's nothing personal, they would have attacked any Base they came across. You should see it as a goal for future progression. First get established on a server, then take over the server, make an alliance and rule the server however you want, then breed an army of super dinos and cross server raid., that is arks end game on a pvp server. Think how much fun they had, Killing your stuff and listening to you cry in chat, you too will be having that same kind of fun one day but first you need to survive. Build defences, build hidden, tame some strong dinos yourself., them when you are ready you can go and get revenge on them. On a side note you got raided by one rex and some c4 not a mega tribe, there was lots of things you could have done, you could have called the servers alpha to help you, most alphas love fighting trolls to protect noobs it makes them feel good, you could have tried to fight back, a ptera can pick the Rex ridder off and kill him leaving the Rex helpless, or you could have made weapons, rockets and rifles would have stopped the Rex in his tracks, or you could build defences spam plant x everywhere and put up some turrets. The truth is if they raided you with one rex whatever the level they probably could have done the same on foot anyway. Keep playing it gets better, I'd you want to pvp then don't get upset when someone more experienced pvps you. Its like getting killed on cod and complaining that it's unfair because the other guy has been playing longer and knows the map better, you don't quit you keep on playing till you know what to do and start to win. i get what youre saying right but i just don't find it fair that a mega tribe can just come in and not even mess with the alphas and just wipe the noobs cause they can the alphas are the alphas cause they worked for it and we were where we were cause we spent time and effort and to see that go away because people pressed a on an obelisk or supply drop is just pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VortexReapz Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, LouSpowells said: I wonder if the OP makes posts like these every time he's new to a game and his ineptitude and inexperience get him wrecked. "Luigi shot a blue shell from 4th place and passed me 20 feet from the finish line. MARIOKART ARE GARBAGE AND NEED TO HE FIX!!!" First of all mario kart is simple and easy second its pretty hard to do anything when a mega tribe offline raids you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, VortexReapz said: First of all mario kart is simple and easy second its pretty hard to do anything when a mega tribe offline raids you First of all, if you're not comfortable with the fact that you can be offline raided, don't play official PvP. Second, surviving in Ark can also be simple and easy provided you spend more time learning about how to survive than complaining about not surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyB Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 45 minutes ago, VortexReapz said: i get what youre saying right but i just don't find it fair that a mega tribe can just come in and not even mess with the alphas and just wipe the noobs cause they can the alphas are the alphas cause they worked for it and we were where we were cause we spent time and effort and to see that go away because people pressed a on an obelisk or supply drop is just pathetic Those guys worked for it the same as the alpha on their own server the same as you. The threat of an unknown enemy coming through the obb is what keeps PvP interesting. Without transfers the game gets stale for the alpha as there is nothing left to do it effectively becomes a pve server without transfers and the alpha can never be beaten untill they quit of boredom. Yes the transfers bring danger but they also offer you a way to escape and find a fresh server if you don't like the one you are on. Before when you was wiped on a server you would have to start from LVL 1 on a new server . This game needs the transfers to stay active fair doesn't come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 13 hours ago, VortexReapz said: so me and my friend got on a new server and we were really excited for it because we knew the alphas right so what happens is we get a stone base going then metal then when we are all offline what do you know people transfer in a level 300 raptoring rex and c4 and [I'm gonna get banned] our base why is this a thing WC as usual its unfair to smaller tribes like everything in your game it makes no sense and is garbage, I've put off doing this because i keep telling myself that it'll get better but what do you do? make new graphics and less of a bs dome for the Xbox one x get your priorities straight fix your poopty game, listen to peoples feedback who Xan actually play it, or you guys will lose all that time you have spent on this game just like me and my friends did our base Until your base has at least 4 auto turrets and 4 plants covering EVERY angle or point of entry, PLUS 1-2 turrets in each room inside your base, you should not be logging off with stuff in that base. If you have a section of the base that is a solid 3x3 foundation or at least a "cross" of foundations, with one foundation in the middle being surrounded, pop the middle foundation, put small chests in there and cover it with a ceiling. Most trolls aren't there to foundation wipe you, just to grab loot. Most won't blow the floors. Another trick we used at first was to have a few 1x1x2 stone huts just off the coast with like 3 large chests in there. Before logging off we'd throw everything in there and just get it back the next day. Last trick, never store resources until your defenses are up. Don't save up for anything that you can't build during that play session. Have metal? Great, convert it to metal structures or something you can easily store like bullets and place/use them. If you're doing the above, you will still get raided, but having found nothing of value, chances are they'll hit someone else next time. Even if not, all you're replacing is a couple walls. Don't be getting luxury high lvl tames either until you have a FULLY ENCLOSED pen for them or you don't care if you lose them. A few dodos, a couple pteras, low level anky, doed, trike is all you need until you get the defenses and pens up. further advice, don't bother placing a turret unless you have 200-250 adv rifle rounds for it... you're just wasting your time with 50-150 bullet turrets. Final advice, turret settings, assuming you have a solid 10x10x10 box, you should have at least 1 turret on each corner of that box set to "survivors only". they will be tall enough to pop stego riders. On your roof, build 4 or 5 pillars up and add another survivor only turret to that one so no one drops a stego on your roof. All other turrets can be set to survivors and mounted dinos only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis3691 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I don't play PvP.. so Idk.. but maybe those alpha tribes, become alpha tribes, by looting stone/metal bases for resources and things they can trade like Bps? Maybe even eggs if you had a fridge. Who knows maybe they even got that 300 Rex from a stolen egg?! I don't play PvP because of the same reason you explained here. I don't like finding all my work gone next time I log in. So I play pve. There are some really nice communities of unofficial PvP/pve servers. Most people respect if you don't want to partake in the day to day raiding. Check em out! Maybe those are for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herobrinescouz Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 16 hours ago, Ferdia said: That's because they have hooves. You are right in the most wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbuilder Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 20 hours ago, Olivar said: Be smarter then your opponents So don't log off, ever. Very smart. Nice tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASucculentSucc Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 To be honest, even for PVP it's pretty darn ridiculous that someone can transfer to an unlimited amount of servers with ultra powerful games and gear and wreak havoc on those servers with either no people online or 70/70 ones filled with juicy beach bobs. They should make it so that map transfers don't exist anymore. The 30 tryvern rampages storming servers is really annoying. Island can transfer island creatures and island gear, SE for SE items and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypak Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 18 hours ago, WolfeUK said: Is that the only answer you can give, see this so many times blah blah blah, well then PVP isnt for you......no its the dynamics of the game that stop it being a good PVP, like the OP said whats the point in starting out for a established tribe to bring in some dinos just to wipe you out.... Nope a have lots of answer's... the pvp side is a bit borked... they expect guys with stone picks to fight a team of 100 who have rexes and assault rifles. Also it doesn't really go like the trailer does it!, by the time you respawn on the beach the rex dude is setting fire to your wooded hut ? There needs to be pve biomes with limited build spaces for new players so they aren't totally wiped over n over n over n over, u get the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan1602 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 14 hours ago, VortexReapz said: the thing is you can't stay long enough to get full defences up we gad 30 PSX and 10 turrets and they just transfer some poop and kill us the game doesn't like low levels and we did know the alphas it wasn't them that raided us twat I wouldn't be calling me that if you don't want a mod to ban you... Moving past that, the game is about being wiped and coming back stronger and making new friends and alliances until next thing you know you're in a 25 man tribe allied with the alpha, trading, and then you'll be the one hitting noobs because you're bored I can absolutely guarantee it. If you're friends with the alpha why didn't they help you? I assure you that these people coming across from their server to yours have put in 100x more time, effort and have grinded to be where they are. Ark is a game of grind and be rewarded, they have grinded and their reward is hitting salty kids like you. They probably didn't give two F's about your loot, it is just fun to pvp and if you don't like pvp then move over to pve where you will get a whole host of different problems which you can do absolutely nothing about. I'll give you a word of advice because you need it, talk to other people on the server. Team up and build together instead of building small individual bases which are possibly the easiest thing to raid. 10 turrets and 30 SPX is nothing. I have several towers with 40 turrets on alone. Team up and maybe you can be a hypocrite and start attacking smaller people because you're bored of grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcryr Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 i agree. basically, you can't play PvP in ARK unless you're fine with getting wiped, especially while offline. I've actually never committed to playing PvP just because of how awful it looks/sounds (imo). it's just not my preference for what I think PvP should be and it sounds like it really isn't yours either. I've just stuck with ARK as a PvE game, and I'm fine with it; I get my PvP experience from other games. If I were to play PvP in ARK, i'd give those experimental "no-tames" servers a try, but even then I'm not sure how much better it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan1602 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, warcryr said: i agree. basically, you can't play PvP in ARK unless you're fine with getting wiped, especially while offline. I've actually never committed to playing PvP just because of how awful it looks/sounds (imo). it's just not my preference for what I think PvP should be and it sounds like it really isn't yours either. I've just stuck with ARK as a PvE game, and I'm fine with it; I get my PvP experience from other games. If I were to play PvP in ARK, i'd give those experimental "no-tames" servers a try, but even then I'm not sure how much better it gets. No tame server as quite fun, it does take you back to basics and rely on teamwork a lot more. But just know you can only hide for so long because the alpha are already established and there is lots of different methods to wiping bases. They are extremely fun though, it does feel like a survival game a lot more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayne1973 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It's like jumping in the water and being angry you got wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustrider Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 hours ago, ASucculentSucc said: To be honest, even for PVP it's pretty darn ridiculous that someone can transfer to an unlimited amount of servers with ultra powerful games and gear and wreak havoc on those servers with either no people online or 70/70 ones filled with juicy beach bobs. They should make it so that map transfers don't exist anymore. The 30 tryvern rampages storming servers is really annoying. Island can transfer island creatures and island gear, SE for SE items and so forth. You are ignoring the fact that raiding other servers is a huge risk. There is a lot of time involved waiting for upload timers and then you are heavily risking any tames you take with you because of the 12 hr tame cool down timer. You can't just hop and hop and hop. Any tames you take over are committed for a while. You either win or you lose all the tames you take with you. However the more I think about it the more I think that free roaming server transfers aren't best for the long term health of the game. Probably would be best if all maps were in a cluster so each cluster had access to one of each type of map. If you wanted off your cluster you could transfer to a different one but make so you can only do that naked and once a week or month or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 The level of entitlement from the OP is representative of the people I see posting articles these days from the MSM. Go run your own server if you don't like what Wildcard does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingurio Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 As someone mentioned before, there are plenty of nice unofficial PvP servers with rules that protect newbies and freshly raided tribes from raids. And, compared to the officials, the rules are enforced rather quick, too. If PvE is too peaceful for you, try one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paroxyde Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just git gud. Hide until you have around 10k turrets with enough bullets and all the mats (scattered around hidden cache and built on a crafting raft) to quick build your base. Then you start to lay a perimeter of plant x (you'll need to have about 100 for the first layer and each layer gets more) Then you start to build the inner sanctum in as many layers as possible (look up on youtube how to make multiple layers of foundation/walls/ceillings) with a lot of buffer rooms also filled with turrets and traps. It should take about 3 month with 4 people and if you are cool with alpha, weekends raider won't come near your base. However on massive server wipe raid, it won't hold long with their uber C4 ramming bronto. But, you can counter it with cave base, cave that are inaccessible for dinos and just put walls upon walls of turrets with a lot of bear traps (speed C4 bomber can get close to your walls untouched and C4 it.) or right on the side of the crouching part, so he gets insta killed before he can get up and run. And spend your time making vaults upon vaults of bullets and gasolin, if you want to hold a month long raid, they are very persistant sometimes, it's not unusual for raider to try for over 10h straight everyday for a few months to get into a base just to T-bag you. They usually broadcast weird noises and screechings, so I would turn voice chat off if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drinkinthepink Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 With a tribe of 5+ you can survive if you are friends with the alpha. But it's pvp, dont complain about pvpers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyB Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Build your Base on a high pillar with no land access, will stop you getting raided as easily, but you will have to use flyers for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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