Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Also, this is the actual configurations we use, minus the administration configuration for the server obviously. We have increased our rates quite a bit to mass-produce items and dinosaurs to test theories, so only use these settings if you want to have quick access to dinosaurs for testing purposes: Game.ini [/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode] bUseSingleplayerSettings=False bPassiveDefensesDamageRiderlessDinos=True bIncreasePvPRespawnInterval=True ResourceNoReplenishRadiusPlayers=0.300000 ResourceNoReplenishRadiusStructures=0.300000 MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.003000 EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=100.000000 BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=100.000000 BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.050000 bAutoPvETimer=False bUseCorpseLocator=True bAllowPlatformSaddleMultiFloors=True bAllowUnlimitedRespecs=True bDisableStructurePlacementCollision=True SupplyCrateLootQualityMultiplier=5.0 FishingLootQualityMultiplier=5.0 bDisableFriendlyFire=True GameUserSettings.ini [ServerSettings] DifficultyOffset=1.000000 OverrideOfficialDifficulty=5.000000 ClampResourceHarvestDamage=False AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle=True AllowThirdPersonPlayer=True ShowFloatingDamageText=True AllowHitMarkers=True XPMultiplier=2.000000 TamingSpeedMultiplier=10.000000 HarvestAmountMultiplier=2.000000 PerPlatformMaxStructuresMultiplier=2.000000 MaxPlatformSaddleStructureLimit=360 AllowRaidDinoFeeding=False NoTributeDownloads=False PreventDownloadItems=False PreventDownloadDinos=False PreventDownloadSurvivors=False PreventUploadItems=False PreventUploadDinos=False PreventUploadSurvivors=False PreventOfflinePvP=True PreventOfflinePvPInterval=900 PreventTribeAlliances=False PreventDiseases=False TributeItemExpirationSeconds=31449600 TributeDinoExpirationSeconds=31449600 TributeCharacterExpirationSeconds=31449600 NonPermanentDiseases=False ServerCrosshair=True AlwaysNotifyPlayerLeft=True DontAlwaysNotifyPlayerJoined=False ShowMapPlayerLocation=True TheMaxStructuresInRange=10500.000000 OxygenSwimSpeedStatMultiplier=1.000000 StructurePreventResourceRadiusMultiplier=1.000000 RaidDinoCharacterFoodDrainMultiplier=1.000000 PvEDinoDecayPeriodMultiplier=1.000000 KickIdlePlayersPeriod=3600.000000 AutoSavePeriodMinutes=30.000000 ListenServerTetherDistanceMultiplier=1.000000 MaxTamedDinos=5000.000000 AllowFlyerCarryPVE=True AllowCaveBuildingPvE=False BanListURL=https: AdminLogging=False ServerPassword= ServerAdminPassword=****************** RCONEnabled=True RCONPort=******* RCONServerGameLogBuffer=600.000000 [/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameUserSettings] MasterAudioVolume=1.000000 MusicAudioVolume=1.000000 SFXAudioVolume=1.000000 VoiceAudioVolume=1.000000 UIScaling=1.000000 UIQuickbarScaling=0.650000 CameraShakeScale=0.650000 bFirstPersonRiding=False bThirdPersonPlayer=False bShowStatusNotificationMessages=True TrueSkyQuality=0.700000 FOVMultiplier=1.000000 GroundClutterDensity=1.000000 bFilmGrain=False bMotionBlur=False bUseDistanceFieldAmbientOcclusion=False bUseSSAO=True bShowChatBox=True bCameraViewBob=True bInvertLookY=False bFloatingNames=True bChatBubbles=True bHideServerInfo=False bJoinNotifications=False bCraftablesShowAllItems=False bLocalInventoryItemsShowAllItems=False bLocalInventoryCraftingShowAllItems=True bRemoteInventoryItemsShowAllItems=False bRemoteInventoryCraftingShowAllItems=False bRemoteInventoryShowEngrams=True LookLeftRightSensitivity=1.000000 LookUpDownSensitivity=1.000000 GraphicsQuality=1 ActiveLingeringWorldTiles=7 ClientNetQuality=3 LastServerSearchType=0 LastServerSort=2 LastPVESearchType=-1 LastDLCTypeSearchType=-1 LastServerSortAsc=True LastAutoFavorite=True LastServerSearchHideFull=False LastServerSearchProtected=False HideItemTextOverlay=True bQuickToggleItemNames=True bDistanceFieldShadowing=True LODScalar=1.000000 bToggleToTalk=False HighQualityMaterials=True HighQualitySurfaces=True bTemperatureF=False bDisableTorporEffect=False bChatShowSteamName=False bChatShowTribeName=True EmoteKeyBind1=0 EmoteKeyBind2=0 bNoBloodEffects=False bLowQualityVFX=False bSpectatorManualFloatingNames=False bSuppressAdminIcon=False bUseSimpleDistanceMovement=False bDisableMeleeCameraSwingAnims=False bHighQualityAnisotropicFiltering=False bUseLowQualityLevelStreaming=True bPreventInventoryOpeningSounds=False bPreventItemCraftingSounds=False bPreventHitMarkers=False bPreventCrosshair=False bPreventColorizedItemNames=False bHighQualityLODs=False bExtraLevelStreamingDistance=False bEnableColorGrading=True DOFSettingInterpTime=0.000000 bDisableBloom=False bDisableLightShafts=False LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " LastJoinedSessionPerCategory=" " bDisableMenuTransitions=False bEnableInventoryItemTooltips=True bRemoteInventoryShowCraftables=False bNoTooltipDelay=False LocalItemSortType=0 LocalCraftingSortType=0 RemoteItemSortType=0 RemoteCraftingSortType=0 VersionMetaTag=1 ShowExplorerNoteSubtitles=False DisableMenuMusic=False DisableDefaultCharacterItems=False bHideFloatingPlayerNames=False bHideGamepadItemSelectionModifier=False PlayActionWheelClickSound=True MaxAscensionLevel=0 bHostSessionHasBeenOpened=False bForceTPVCameraOffset=False bDisableTPVCameraInterpolation=False Gamma1=2.200000 Gamma2=3.000000 bEnableHDROutput=False bUseVSync=False MacroCtrl0= MacroCtrl1= MacroCtrl2= MacroCtrl3= MacroCtrl4= MacroCtrl5= MacroCtrl6= MacroCtrl7= MacroCtrl8= MacroCtrl9= ResolutionSizeX=1280 ResolutionSizeY=720 LastUserConfirmedResolutionSizeX=1280 LastUserConfirmedResolutionSizeY=720 WindowPosX=-1 WindowPosY=-1 bUseDesktopResolutionForFullscreen=False FullscreenMode=2 LastConfirmedFullscreenMode=2 Version=5 [ScalabilityGroups] sg.ResolutionQuality=100 sg.ViewDistanceQuality=3 sg.AntiAliasingQuality=3 sg.ShadowQuality=3 sg.PostProcessQuality=3 sg.TextureQuality=3 sg.EffectsQuality=3 sg.TrueSkyQuality=3 sg.GroundClutterQuality=3 sg.IBLQuality=1 sg.HeightFieldShadowQuality=3 sg.GroundClutterRadius=10000 [MessageOfTheDay] Message=Welcome to The Lagoverse! Duration=15 [SessionSettings] SessionName=The Lagoverse [PvP][RP] [/Script/Engine.GameSession] MaxPlayers=10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toqs Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Feel like there is a huge strat difference when you are comparing private/legacy with new official. Most people on official will never even have 3-4k eggs to hatch in total over ark career. Official is at 400 melee max on most boss dinos and 10-12k hp max as base stats. Meanwhile some of yall are talking about doing boss fights with 550-650 melee and 15k+. With imprint your dinos are nearly twice as strong as official's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Olivar said: produced the exact same Therizinosaurs on his official server. the theriz we practiced with the last 7-10 days were the exact same ones we took to the fight thanks to Official saves being released ours wasnt 100% official config -- had spawn animations off and -allowunlimitedrespec checked, which then didnt work anyways lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Toqs said: Feel like there is a huge strat difference when you are comparing private with official/legacy. Most people on official will never even have 3-4k eggs to hatch in total over ark career. Official is at 400 melee max on most boss dinos and 10-12k hp max as base stats. Meanwhile some of yall are talking about doing boss fights with 550-650 melee and 15k+. With imprint your dinos are nearly twice as strong as official's best. Are you talking about caught dinos, or dinosaurs bred to perfection with 20/20 mutations, full imprint and maxed out levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, ThzNutz said: the theriz we practiced with the last 7-10 days were the exact same ones we took to the fight thanks to Official saves being released ours wasnt 100% official config -- had spawn animations off and -allowunlimitedrespec checked, which then didnt work anyways lol. we have those running as well, but doesn't affect the fight itself though, which is what people are interested in the most. QoL changes are irrelevant to the discussion. It's about having dinosaurs that can be obtained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Toqs said: With imprint your dinos are nearly twice as strong as official's best. we are on Official -- its Legacy but still Official. the new Official servers have not been around long enough to breed the higher stat dinos, that is the only difference im aware of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toqs Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, ThzNutz said: we are on Official -- its Legacy but still Official. the new Official servers have not been around long enough to breed the higher stat dinos, that is the only difference im aware of Indeed. I'm just noting that if someone is looking for help on the fight to make sure to note what sort of server the info is coming from. Eventually new official will catch up to legacy but something that might work on legacy might not on new official due to higher stats/weapons/armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 just a heads up for whoever wants to try and breed the Therizino's we had from scratch on official: We burned through roughly 13000 babies in 2.5 weeks using our extreme settings, spending 16h a day for this. And that's pure Therizinosaur breeding, nothing else.This will take you months on official when starting from scratch. If you can buy/trade starting dinosaurs or pre-bred one, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Olivar said: It's about having dinosaurs that can be obtained. twice as nice when its the actual dinos you will take to the fight, not spawned. they did end up with a bit more xp on practice server than they had when we took them to the real fights (maybe 40ish in melee 763 vs 816), but that was offset but having 7 of the stronger ones at 1 - 1.1k melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Is it safe to use the theri for mega/brood fights? Would save a lot of time raising rexes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toqs Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Olivar said: Are you talking about caught dinos, or dinosaurs bred to perfection with 20/20 mutations, full imprint and maxed out levels? No one on new servers or legacy has 20/20 mutations in melee or health. That requires boosted rates. It would take nearly a year or more on official with no tame cap for those mutations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, rororoxor said: Is it safe to use the theri for mega/brood fights? Would save a lot of time raising rexes... Absolutely! They shred through them like paper. Just now, Toqs said: No one on new servers or legacy has 20/20 mutations in melee or health. That requires boosted rates. It would take nearly a year or more on official with no tame cap for those mutations See my previous post : We only pulled this off because of boosted raids and pre-existing dinosaurs. It will indeed take you months of breeding to get this on official to obtain the monster we or Nutz' tribe has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 just to show off Our Theri's were lvl 120 base starters, not sure what base level Nutz started from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Toqs said: make sure to note what sort of server the info is coming from. absolutely 1 minute ago, Olivar said: This will take you months on official when starting from scratch. took us 6-8 weeks and we were lucky enough to buy/get gifted excellent eggs -- still tho the raising, leveling, etc takes time...time...time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Toqs said: It would take nearly a year or more on official true, @invincibleqc is very familiar with how long it takes, as is @SmashNcrabs -- the sources of our fine eggs -- the only reason we were able to pull it off in such a short period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 But I agree, mentioning the differences between servers is not a bad thing, as long as people don't bash about it. I'm all open for sharing our information, videos and tactics that we used for creating the Therizino theory. Heck more then happy to invite you to our box sometime and show them in action Off to bed for today, happy to answer more questions tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Olivar said: Absolutely! They shred through them like paper. See my previous post : We only pulled this off because of boosted raids and pre-existing dinosaurs. It will indeed take you months of breeding to get this on official to obtain the monster we or Nutz' tribe has. Sadly with tame cap everywhere those levels wont be around for a long long time. maybe months with the cap before you can even work on breed line. We have a 384 melee fem that we bought and been at least 12 eggs hatched and CANNOT get that stat to move. right now best we have is 7.5k hp and 299 melee. We have ascended theri bp but nothing worth a crap to put it on. I might also add we have all tekgrams unlocked already and did it all with rexes, yut and pig. if i continue breeding theris it is for chitz and giggles more than relying on it to beat bosses. Also Oliver those are your settings for your servers. Can you show me a reference indicating what the official settings actually are? Any reference from wc that could validate that those settings actually match official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Olivar said: just to show off Our Theri's were lvl 120 base starters, not sure what base level Nutz started from so you got 400 base melee and 10k base hp on level 120's?? That is some serious fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 however there is a twist- @LadyofHats tribe did all the raising/breeding annnnnnnd we got a melee mutation from @invincibleqc 590 theriz, which took them to 602% the first 25 became adults at about 1am cst last night. true monsters -- and unless someone knows different (would love to see if so), 423 has the best Theriz is Ark atm #4234ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legislator Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, ThzNutz said: do not try a new mouse the day or so before your big fight and then fail to do a practice run or check your keybinds due to the above the first half of the fight was spent in a state of "why arent they listening" and "omg the lag" mixed with a tad of panic and "we are all dead" when i then realized i had no whistles except neutral, which then had my usually mostly organized horde all over the place. had to run headfirst into the dragon to get them to all attack while being chewed on by a dimorph (rip riot chest piece, and thanks Tah ) i got most of the keys bound properly and only missed one -- the most important one imo -- lmao -- attack this target. headfirst into the dragon again to get them to attack. needless to say during all of my confusion, the horde had not been properly yuty buffed (a struggle i seem to always have ) and were low on health. dragon landed behind the ruins wall near the platform, which blocks yuty screams btw, and the theriz began dying 2-3 at a time. dragon still had a bit of health left, i kinda felt a wipe coming but the shooters kept pouring it on him, and the last 2-3 theriz fought valiantly and we got the win. i would've normally contributed 500-600 rounds of AR damage, didnt happen this time. as a final kick in the jimmy, i neglected to record the fight too. at any rate, good show guys -- will call on you again in 2 weeks or so -- Pet and some others still need engrams And I thought it was all part of the planned fight Sorry for the bad quality ... twitch and youtube didn't improve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted November 20, 2017 Author Volunteer Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Legislator said: And I thought it was all part of the planned fight Sorry for the bad quality ... twitch and youtube didn't improve i hahahahahah....wait? i dont usually drive them that bad do i? bad quality is better than no quality, which is what we would have if it had been left to me to do lmao. thanks for getting the video mate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, bigfishrob said: Sadly with tame cap everywhere those levels wont be around for a long long time. maybe months with the cap before you can even work on breed line. We have a 384 melee fem that we bought and been at least 12 eggs hatched and CANNOT get that stat to move. right now best we have is 7.5k hp and 299 melee. We have ascended theri bp but nothing worth a crap to put it on. I might also add we have all tekgrams unlocked already and did it all with rexes, yut and pig. if i continue breeding theris it is for chitz and giggles more than relying on it to beat bosses. Also Oliver those are your settings for your servers. Can you show me a reference indicating what the official settings actually are? Any reference from wc that could validate that those settings actually match official? Been trying to get an official response for quite some time, but nothing received so far. Trust me if I had an official source I would link it and apply it immediately. The current configuration has been obtained by comparing settings, avaliable numbers and dinosaur results against official player feedback, tools and experience. It's not foolproof but it's pretty damned close right now. If there is any indication that something is off we change it immediately and rerun the tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 @Jen @Eli is there a chance to get the official confirmation so we can apply it to our boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishrob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Olivar said: Been trying to get an official response for quite some time, but nothing received so far. Trust me if I had an official source I would link it and apply it immediately. The current configuration has been obtained by comparing settings, avaliable numbers and dinosaur results against official player feedback, tools and experience. It's not foolproof but it's pretty damned close right now. If there is any indication that something is off we change it immediately and rerun the tests. So there is no for certain official settings..... got it......so it just "seems" like dedi is set the same as official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, bigfishrob said: So there is no for certain official settings..... got it......so it just "seems" like dedi is set the same as official Whatever you need to keep doubting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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