DukeFromArk Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 My tribe leader thinks inbreeding negatively affects their stats, so he wants to make a few family trees so we don't inbreed. I don't think it has any affect on the stats(I'm not 100% sure), but I no for a fact it doesn't mess with the chances of mutations. Can anyone confirm it doesn't affect stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demerus Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 there are few people who believe inbreeding increases the chances of a mutation. In all honesty, isn't that a good thing? Once all top stats get combined that is the whole goal to breed for stat mutations in the long run. Not really sure why it is an issue since no negative effects come from stat mutations to begin with. The servers are all getting capped, this methodology of breeding doesnt help by having multiple bloodlines of the same type of dino. I don't see the benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X111 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Quote Just now, Demerus said: there are few people who believe inbreeding increases the chances of a mutation. In all honesty, isn't that a good thing? Once all top stats get combined that is the whole goal to breed for stat mutations in the long run. Not really sure why it is an issue since no negative effects come from stat mutations to begin with. what he said, never had any negative effects myself tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyB Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 No, it makes them better as far as I can tell, more inbreeding more chance of mutations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedodowhisperer Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 In a previous topic (which i cant find atm) someone said the mutation chance is not affected by dinos being siblings... il try to link it when i get to my pc EDIT: this thread has a decent explanation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSurvivor Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 it doesnt affect the stats, but i think it will affect the mutation number. if you breed with new line you will get a better chance at getting new mutation or something like that. (mutation are good here) not 100% sure tho but its not bad to breed out of your line as it doesnt decrease stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAncientOrder Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, DarkSurvivor said: it doesnt affect the stats, but i think it will affect the mutation number. if you breed with new line you will get a better chance at getting new mutation or something like that. (mutation are good here) not 100% sure tho but its not bad to breed out of your line as it doesnt decrease stats. Yeah the only real negative is once they have the same stats from breeding, they will not gain any excess levels unless from mutations. Once there are too many mutations, there will not be any new ones present. So breeding out of the bloodline opens up more chances for different mutations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronics Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 In real life inbreeding is bad mutations is very bad....but in ark is very very good lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aorticarch Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Doesnt affect mutations at all. Nor does it affect mutation count any differently than non inbreeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 17 hours ago, DukeFromArk said: My tribe leader thinks inbreeding negatively affects their stats It has no affect on the stats in any way. For example, if the parents of a baby argy have 30 levels of melee for the father and 32 levels of melee for the mother, then the chance that the offspring will have 30 levels or 32 levels of melee will not be affected by inbreeding in any way. It doesn't matter whether the father & mother are two fresh wild tames or if the father and mother are each the offspring from multiple generations of inbreeding, both babies have identical chances of having either 30 or 32 levels of melee. 17 hours ago, DukeFromArk said: but I no for a fact it doesn't mess with the chances of mutations. Can anyone confirm it doesn't affect stats? That's not exactly true. There is a limit to the number of mutations any dino can have, that limit is 20. If the dino inherits 20 mutations from its two parents then there is no chance of a new mutation occuring for the offspring. That could be 10 mutations each from the father and mother, or it could be 20 from the father and 0 from the mother. No matter how you add them up, if a baby inherits 20 mutations from the parents it will not have any new mutations, ever. So if you're breeding more generations to see if you can find new color mutations, you will never get anything new if the father and mother add up to 20 or more mutations. Let's say the father and mother each have 20 mutations, and they are from completely different bloodlines. In theory that could be a maximum of 40 mutations, but it doesn't matter, their offspring will still max out at 20 mutations, some from the father and some from the mother, and it will never have any new mutations of its own. Also, if you're breeding for stats and you know that the father, or mother, or both, already have some color mutations, then those are "wasted" mutations for your new bloodline. In that case, you would usually prefer a relatively fresh bloodline that doesn't have any color mutations, only mutations for good stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 This is how dinosaur inbreeding works: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwame Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I had first thought inbreeding would help with mutations, but it doesn't. It's how close the colors are to each other. It will give the computer less colors to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronics Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Fwame said: I had first thought inbreeding would help with mutations, but it doesn't. It's how close the colors are to each other. It will give the computer less colors to choose from. That is if your breeding for colors.....if your breeding super dinos you have to do some heavy inbreeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekrucifixion187 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 11/9/2017 at 2:46 AM, Pipinghot said: There is a limit to the number of mutations any dino can have, that limit is 20. Everything else I read says there is no limit to the number of mutations a dino can have as long as one parent is below 20. My understanding is there is a determination if there will be a mutation (2.5% chance), then a random parents stat/color is determined for mutation, then the stats/color are selected that will be applied to the baby and perhaps the mutated color/stat will be selected. So as long as one of the dinos is at 19/20 there is a chance for a mutation and that mutation being selected and applied to the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgirl Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 One negative thing it DOES do is it will cap stats (unless you get stat mutations) there will be a max number that a stat can reach without a mutation, you have to be very selective in breeding if you want to increase certain stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akumaspkplayer Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Read this it will answer most your questions and everyone else's theory's https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/66n962/mutations_and_you_a_guide_on_breeding_mutations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrfing Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Inbreeding doesn't effect negatively at all, your tribe leader is looking at it in a way of how inbreeding isnt a good thing IRL... stats transfering and mutating doesnt care if they are brother / sis, mother / son, grandfather / granddaughter.... if anything you benefit more if they share stats so your near guarantee'd a stat transfer or mutation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeFromArk Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Thanks guys for all of the info. My main question was if you inbreed does it negatively affect the stats, not mutations. So if I breed animals that aren't related and ones that are related(inbreeding), will there be any difference on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipinghot Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 43 minutes ago, DukeFromArk said: So if I breed animals that aren't related and ones that are related(inbreeding), will there be any difference on average. Not at all, wild or inbred makes no difference, all that matters is the stats of the parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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