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Xbox one X still has a host tether

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3 hours ago, retired17801 said:

I am having the same issue for non-dedicated server.

Old xbox one tether distance is 250m and now that I have an xbox one X it's still 250m... Update was suppose to make the host tether larger.

Can we can an update on this?

Again Ill ask you are the one hosting the non dedi right? Having an Xbox One X doesn't change anything unless it is hosting the session.

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Yea man we both said we have xbox one X and we are hosting... lol 

Xbon one X as host on non-dedicated doesnt change the host barrier at all compared to xbox on host barrier even though they said in the update it would...

 

Update: I even started a brand new non-dedicated on my XBOX ONE X; and it's still the same 

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So, Ark lovers have actually bought a Xbox one X for promised increased NON DED tether. Thinking it would be longer than a Mammoths piece. Surely its going to be larger than that.

As much as i like the game , i have many criticisms re this game.....the terrible freezing that occurs  gets worse and worse after an hour on single player, and Non ded playing with the host.  

Furthermore,  the actual ..Dino's.. Dilophosaurus was the size of a Carnotaurus.  

The Giganotosaurus could've been realistic proportions and still been cool. I don't get the silly disproportion. Save that for Scorched.  It was only slightly larger than T rex. 

Diplodocus should be given a tail whiplash damage as that is what it almost certainly used in defence. Not some silly lame push back.  The Brontosaurus more likely shoved with its more massive neck (in combination).   

 

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18 hours ago, Alexeauxs said:

If you look elsewhere in this thread you'll see that doesn't even matter since the extension is pretty much nonexistent.

It matters because if you are not hosting from the Xbox One X there would be no change whether or not the update worked or not. At the time you were the only one smart enough to include that you were hosting from and X. You cant make a conclusion on one report of it not working. Everyone else just said they were playing on an X and were getting little or no increase which is 100% worthless info if they arent the host. So now that a few others have confirmed they are hosting from the X its safe to say the extension was basically worthless.

Just a thought. I thought I heard on PC they could scale a tether to their pcs performance. I wonder if this is the case with the X and if you can turn down your graphics to get a better distance... I honestly doubt it would work but it may be worth a try if you have your heart set on playing non dedi.

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3 minutes ago, NotoriousWhiz said:

Until split screen is an option for dedicated servers (can someone explain why it isn't?), some of us are forced to stick with non dedicated online servers. 

That's exactly what makes it a dedicated server. You can't run a client on the same machine as a dedicated server.

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20 hours ago, NotoriousWhiz said:

You misunderstood. Why can't a split screen client connect to a dedicated server but a split screen client can connect to a non dedicated server? 

So you've got split screen on the client console (i.e. you and a friend in your lounge). You're saying that:

1) It will connect to a non-dedicated (e.g. someone's second Xbox console) in this mode, but

2) won't connect to a dedicated (e.g. official) server? Or a Nitrado server?

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1 hour ago, Quetzal said:

So you've got split screen on the client console (i.e. you and a friend in your lounge). You're saying that:

1) It will connect to a non-dedicated (e.g. someone's second Xbox console) in this mode, but

2) won't connect to a dedicated (e.g. official) server? Or a Nitrado server?

You got it. The way split screen works:

You join a game, then hit the *start* button on the 2nd controller and it automatically goes into split screen. You can join a non dedicated server and start a split screen session, but you can't join a dedicated session and start a split screen session. If it wouldn't work in one, I would expect it not to work in non-dedicated and work in dedicated, not the other way around.

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Hey all! If you're interested in some of the Xbox enhancements, it would seem that wildcard has fallen short yet again. Just tested with a friend, there is NO increase in host tether. So going back to a tweet Jeremy stated that there would be no host tether, then they announced that it was increased and now it would seem none of these statements are true.

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On November 11, 2017 at 5:13 PM, NotoriousWhiz said:

The distance is actually ~258m at least for me. Sooooooo much more distance. I don't know why I even support this game. 

I finally got a one X and tested it myself, it's an extra 5 meters. Worst devs I've ever seen ruining an amazing game. If you can completely remove the tether in split screen, why even mention that the non dedi tether was increased? You can't feel the extra 5 meters because it still turns red at 230 or so. And if you're on a Dino? Forget it, no differenc. Ugh wish the devs would address this! Can't get answers anywhere. Again, I hosted the session on my one X and had my friend join me. He sighed and said "see I told you they'd just increase it by a tiny amount so they could say they increased it without actually doing so." Lol guess he was right.

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Jesus Christ its 2017 open world is the new way to play yet my friends are still restricted to 200mtrs before they bounce back to me. Let us chose whether or not we want to use it. Not every PC has the same spec but you allow them the choice. I can drive fly or sail the full GTA 5 without my mates being dragged to me all the time, i can explore unlimited terrain on mine-craft worlds and travel over seas in Elder-scrolls online but wildcard whose game is not the best graphically limit you to 200mtrs its a joke. 

Allow us to make our own decisions on the distance, online videos have proven it can be done if you don't go too mad so whats your issue with it? 

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Ark doesn't run that well to begin with so if you expect your Xbox to process 2 places at once then your out of luck.  It has trouble running normally so if you double that then your probably In for a pretty "fun" time! I do agree that we should have more range but I understand why we are restricted as well.

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@AngryGamer666

Ooh with your infinite knowledge you must know whats best for a game... ESO you are playing on a server, GTA you are playing on a server and when your not not the map is loaded and rendered differently than ark does with a lot less going on, and minecraft is a rinky dink little game that can be played from any crappy cell phone so none of those come close to comparing to what ark does. Sounds like you want server performance with out a server. If you havent realized an xbox is complete garbage compared to pc(im an xbox player) and barely can run the game as it is let alone rendering multiple places on the map at once. When you are on non dedicated the host renders the 250m from the host and the other players can play in that area. Outside of that 250 the game is no longer being fully rendered or processed, and the xbox cant handle rendering a second area. The reason pc gets to chose is because specs can differ drastically for xbox they cant. Its up to them to decide what size is best for their specs and its their risk if they decide to put it higher than the pc can handle. Wc knows exactly what xbox can handle and predetermined what the best distance is.

Edited by TedyBearOfDeath
Thread was merged. Added tag to clarify.

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9 minutes ago, TedyBearOfDeath said:

Ooh with your infinite knowledge you must know whats best for a game... ESO you are playing on a server, GTA you are playing on a server and when your not not the map is loaded and rendered differently than ark does with a lot less going on, and minecraft is a rinky dink little game that can be played from any crappy cell phone so none of those come close to comparing to what ark does. Sounds like you want server performance with out a server. If you havent realized an xbox is complete garbage compared to pc(im an xbox player) and barely can run the game as it is let alone rendering multiple places on the map at once. When you are on non dedicated the host renders the 250m from the host and the other players can play in that area. Outside of that 250 the game is no longer being fully rendered or processed, and the xbox cant handle rendering a second area. The reason pc gets to chose is because specs can differ drastically for xbox they cant. Its up to them to decide what size is best for their specs and its their risk if they decide to put it higher than the pc can handle. Wc knows exactly what xbox can handle and predetermined what the best distance is.

I agree with that! 

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14 hours ago, TedyBearOfDeath said:

@AngryGamer666

Ooh with your infinite knowledge you must know whats best for a game... ESO you are playing on a server, GTA you are playing on a server and when your not not the map is loaded and rendered differently than ark does with a lot less going on, and minecraft is a rinky dink little game that can be played from any crappy cell phone so none of those come close to comparing to what ark does. Sounds like you want server performance with out a server. If you havent realized an xbox is complete garbage compared to pc(im an xbox player) and barely can run the game as it is let alone rendering multiple places on the map at once. When you are on non dedicated the host renders the 250m from the host and the other players can play in that area. Outside of that 250 the game is no longer being fully rendered or processed, and the xbox cant handle rendering a second area. The reason pc gets to chose is because specs can differ drastically for xbox they cant. Its up to them to decide what size is best for their specs and its their risk if they decide to put it higher than the pc can handle. Wc knows exactly what xbox can handle and predetermined what the best distance is.

Thats true.  But when Ark said the tether would be increased on xbox one X on non-ded, 5 metres is taking the michael and basically misleading !

Regarding the ''Dino's'', why are some of them so inaccurate ?!  Eventhough i gather the developers aren't bothered about making the (actual) Dinosaurs truer to science, is it so hard to make the DIlo the right size (double that which it is!) , making the Giga the correct size, only slightly larger than the Rex, etc.  Its not hard to correct these major poopty errors. Even harder to correct the constant freezing that occurs in the single player game, i guess ! But do wc care on here ?

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9 hours ago, NotoriousWhiz said:

It's clear that there is little benefit to owning a 1x for Ark. So I've just gone ahead and returned mine. Maybe the tether will have increased more than 5 meters within the next 3 years. 

Its all easy for some on here to try and defend this game, but lets face it, its only playable on the PC.  I found servers virtually unplayable, due to the glitches freezes etc.  So that leaves single player, which STILL has freezing when knocking trees down etc, after an hour or so.  People paid money for this game. The least we deserve is a game thats properly playable and was properly optimized for the console. Its a shame, as the game is good

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17 hours ago, TedyBearOfDeath said:

@AngryGamer666

Ooh with your infinite knowledge you must know whats best for a game... ESO you are playing on a server, GTA you are playing on a server and when your not not the map is loaded and rendered differently than ark does with a lot less going on, and minecraft is a rinky dink little game that can be played from any crappy cell phone so none of those come close to comparing to what ark does. Sounds like you want server performance with out a server. If you havent realized an xbox is complete garbage compared to pc(im an xbox player) and barely can run the game as it is let alone rendering multiple places on the map at once. When you are on non dedicated the host renders the 250m from the host and the other players can play in that area. Outside of that 250 the game is no longer being fully rendered or processed, and the xbox cant handle rendering a second area. The reason pc gets to chose is because specs can differ drastically for xbox they cant. Its up to them to decide what size is best for their specs and its their risk if they decide to put it higher than the pc can handle. Wc knows exactly what xbox can handle and predetermined what the best distance is.

Id totally agree with you if there were not already videos of gamers adjusting the tether on xbox one without any issues proving you wrong, also as your not a wildcard tech when did you become an expert in what they can do?

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I feel the only reason the host tether is there is to force players wanting a better game on there own worlds to hire servers from nitrado. In the past Wildcard have accidentally unlocked the option to adjust the host tether on xbox one. When they did thousands of gamers tested it and as long as you kept it sensible it worked fine and videos were uploaded to you tube proving this. Wildcard instantly locked the host tether back down even though it was proven to not be an issue. 

They did this for one reason only, they were releasing an update that allowed you to hire your own servers making them more money from Nitrado Servers commission. Not once have the answered why videos prove the host tether can be adjusted in fact they make a point of moving all post asking this into other forum posts hiding them from the general populations eyes. Every time this issue is questioned posts either disappear or get moved into a forum black hole were nobody looks, like this whole forum post. 

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4 hours ago, AngryGamer666 said:

Id totally agree with you if there were not already videos of gamers adjusting the tether on xbox one without any issues proving you wrong, also as your not a wildcard tech when did you become an expert in what they can do?

You mean proving me right. Showing how anything over like 350 meters the dinos stopped spawning correctly and their AI sometimes didnt function at all. The terrian would stop rendering properly and some resources wouldnt even be visable at all. Let alone the reports of xboxes over heating and at least one report of a corrupted operating system. Causing the player to have to factory reset their xbox. Im guessing you think all of thats acceptable if some of the people reported having no issues.... 

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