natman Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @StudioWildcard@Jatheish@Jen, @whoever is there I have some fundamental questions to u, and, following the discussions here, it seems like many other people are in the same boat. It would clear many things up to have answers to the following questions: How do u think about the transfer system? I think it is cool that it connects servers and puts trading on a new level, but its obviously broken and source of many of arks biggest problems. u tried to counter duping with that painful upload timers but it seems like that didnt work out too well and many people wonder why u keep that system if u cant fix it. Do you like how the game encourages the formation and domination of huge megatribes/-alliances and do you realise that this drives many players away from the official base game? hows it goin? I know my hopes are high, but maybe its my lucky day and i can get some answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastofDeath Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 If you get an answer i'll eat my all my dinos. Sorry I could not resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morf Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Hey i'm not a dev but i can answer them, here it is :#1 I guess the data model they used don't allow them to put IDs everywhere to prevent duping and now they're stuck with that cuz they can't redesign the data model without breaking the whole game and also cuz they don't have the time/money... Or just lack of skill from the data architect. Imagine WoW is more than 10 years old but they don't have any dupe problems somehow.#2 Why would you want the player base to stay on official servers which are free while you can push them to play on private servers from which you get money from renting them ?#3 New dlc incoming. Feeling so g$$$$$$$$$$$$$d how about you ? Enjoying the lag i bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthaNyan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Morf said: #1 I guess the data model they used don't allow them to put IDs everywhere to prevent duping and now they're stuck with that cuz they can't redesign the data model without breaking the whole game and also cuz they don't have the time/money... Or just lack of skill from the data architect. Imagine WoW is more than 10 years old but they don't have any dupe problems somehow. can be done with less hassle for players, but it will still require players to wait until server save for uploads to complete: https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/239496-dupe-fix-suggestion/ 13 minutes ago, Morf said: #2 Why would you want the player base to stay on official servers which are free while you can push them to play on private servers from which you get money from renting them ? I feel like the question and intent was to limit number of players per tribe and number of tribes per alliance. For example 10 players per tribe and up to 3 tribes per alliance (yours + 2 others) would have made things a bit more hectic/interesting imo. Right now this (from wiki) "Tribes may join or be admins of up to 5 Alliances at a single time and a single Alliance can consist of up to 12 tribes at a time." is ridiculous. With 70-100 player limit per server these alliance limitations make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted October 3, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2017 7 hours ago, Morf said: #2 Why would you want the player base to stay on official servers which are free while you can push them to play on private servers from which you get money from renting them ? WC pays for Official servers similar to how any other person pays for their rented server. they do not make money from server rentals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, ThzNutz said: WC pays for Official servers similar to how any other person pays for their rented server. they do not make money from server rentals How do they have the money to maintain them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted October 3, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, rororoxor said: How do they have the money to maintain them? i would imagine through sales of their game? is this a troll question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, rororoxor said: How do they have the money to maintain them? Game sales and DLC sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanAndDaddy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, ThzNutz said: WC pays for Official servers similar to how any other person pays for their rented server. they do not make money from server rentals In most businesses there is a rebate to someone. It may go to Jat directly in the form of a rebate, may be a rebate to the company, or may be in the form of a discount... but the fact that they are only using 1 provider almost certainly means there is kick back going to someone who makes such decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator ThzNutz Posted October 3, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, NathanAndDaddy said: they are only using 1 provider they are not using only one provider and your kickback theory is speculation. makes sense, and there may be rebates/discounts or something, but even if true that in no way means they make money from renting servers. it means they dont pay as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted October 3, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Morf said: Imagine WoW is more than 10 years old but they don't have any dupe problems somehow. They don't have them at the moment. They have had multiple separate issues with them in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanAndDaddy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 hours ago, ThzNutz said: they are not using only one provider and your kickback theory is speculation. makes sense, and there may be rebates/discounts or something, but even if true that in no way means they make money from renting servers. it means they dont pay as much. I do not have any inside information other than my years of corporate experience. I do know that if you give the CEO a gift based on getting something in return they are more likely to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rororoxor Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 5 hours ago, ThzNutz said: i would imagine through sales of their game? is this a troll question? Well, aren't they paying a monthly server fee? Won't they burn through their cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugodzilla Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Joebl0w13 said: They don't have them at the moment. They have had multiple separate issues with them in the past. And thats the reason WC allows duping? Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BubbaCrawfish Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 When questions get asked in this manner, it doesn't matter what answer is given, the OP already has preconceived issues. "Why do you stick with it"... It's development... "Megatribes" That's just how online gaming works... Eat or be eaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted October 4, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Ugodzilla said: And thats the reason WC allows duping? Weird My statement had nothing to do with Wildcard. Weird I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugodzilla Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Joebl0w13 said: My statement had nothing to do with Wildcard. Weird I know. Oh. Must have misread. Thought that Thread is addressed to Wildcard Devs. My Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted October 4, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, Ugodzilla said: Oh. Must have misread. Thought that Thread is addressed to Wildcard Devs. My Bad. It is. What I quoted wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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