Nch1418 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, invincibleqc said: You obviously didn't read the thread. They are on NO-Tame server! I did read it. I was making general suggestions. A simple bow and arrow isn't going to kill a titanic fish like that. A good crossbow could, but not a bow and arrow. Or did you mean a crossbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: You clearly can. Like I mentioned above; leeds are weak and you can easilly kill them with few arrows. This is quite simple, stop being lazy and scout around before trying to go on the other side. This is a survival game for a reason, leeds are a nice mechanic and are EASILY avoidable if you take the required precautions. Lost 2 boats in 3 hours tonight. Cheers P.s not a chance against alpha or normal leeds. Barely have time to get out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just lost another boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nch1418 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, paulpot said: Just lost another boat! My sincerest apologies. Unfortunately, I don't know what level you are at, so I don't know what defensive measures you have access to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taconite Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Boats are annoying, I'm not on no tame but everyone I see, I destroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted September 17, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2017 They are always level 1 with 4.4k hp, you can kill them with ~20 spears if you don't have access to anything else. They are NOT a serious treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nch1418 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: They are always level 1 with 4.4k hp, you can kill them with ~20 spears if you don't have access to anything else. They are NOT a serious treat. I have seen them at higher levels. They do not always spawn at level 1. Plus, their heads are very well-armored. I hardly call that something to take lightly. Now, if they were peaceful creatures in all situations, this would probably be true. Where did you see or hear that they are always level 1? I've seen some as high as the 40s and 50s in level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaviel Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Leeds are a vital way to keep the server from being clogged with 10000 boats. I've spent much time on rafts and motorboats each and leeds are never much of an issue. If I see a Leed i just aim to closer shore, its NOT HARD. For those that still have issues, have a small chest right by where you pilot the ship with supplies to repair the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaviel Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, paulpot said: Lost 2 boats in 3 hours tonight. Cheers P.s not a chance against alpha or normal leeds. Barely have time to get out the door. Not gunna say this is a learn-to-play issue, but it is a learn-to-play issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted September 17, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nch1418 said: I have seen them at higher levels. They do not always spawn at level 1. Plus, their heads are very well-armored. I hardly call that something to take lightly. Now, if they were peaceful creatures in all situations, this would probably be true. Where did you see or hear that they are always level 1? I've seen some as high as the 40s and 50s in level. They do. They nerfed them in v256.3: Quote * Leeds will no longer scale in damage/level etc. * Leeds spawns adjusted so no longer spawning near shorelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevChelios Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Never had a problem with Leeds, When I move it I drive around with enough mats to repair it, 3 or 4 hits and it has enough. Just keep repairing the boat and it will bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racidon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 35 minutes ago, Jat said: Perhaps, but doesn't hurt to talk about though people will exaggerate about everything! The game wasn't designed around no-taming servers, so there are going to be some things that don't quite work or are immensely different. I would disregard it, or maybe just up the trilo bite spawns if you must. Myself and mate play on vanilla, and we don't tame and the amount of crap we've got, we could easily make a motorboat. So essentially we're playing no-tame against people that have tames and with reduced rates. I think we've got about 100-150 black pearls from kill trilobites. Also come level 81 they can make scuba and crossbow the sea-scorpions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, Racidon said: I would disregard it, or maybe just up the trilo bite spawns if you must. Myself and mate play on vanilla, and we don't tame and the amount of crap we've got, we could easily make a motorboat. So essentially we're playing no-tame against people that have tames and with reduced rates. I think we've got about 100-150 black pearls from kill trilobites. Also come level 81 they can make scuba and crossbow the sea-scorpions So because it's not a problem for you and your game style screw everyone else? Lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanicPopeye Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, paulpot said: Why comment if you clearly dont play no tames? I cannot go from the Island over to herbivore island without being sunk. I urge you to try it before you comment. I believe you when you say a Leeds is spawned on that a-b route, but the way you are talking there is a Leeds every 20 meters. They really aren't that common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiid13 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, invincibleqc said: You clearly can. Like I mentioned above; leeds are weak and you can easilly kill them with few arrows. This is quite simple, stop being lazy and scout around before trying to go on the other side. This is a survival game for a reason, leeds are a nice mechanic and are EASILY avoidable if you take the required precautions. When your boat rocks once then gets demolished there's no time for that , they're a lot quicker than a non motorised boat . Please join a non tame server and see how they're dead . They're dead and people constantly talk about the Leeds , and state that's the main reason they're moving to a tame . Leeds aren't a problem on a server that uses tames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstcrook69 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I think a basic raft should be able to outrun it ONLY if its constantly moving..if your stopped in the middle of the ocean doing nothing or can't get to your rudder quick enough, then sucks to be you...but running should be an option atleast. im on south east shore closest to herb island and have gotten my giga stuck on herb island more than once ...killed the leed. Made another raft and another one came and destroyed it...rinse and repeat. I couldn't imagine rafting around the map like I use to do with large storage boxes filled with resources..too risky. More of a reason to take to the skies with a flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted September 17, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Reiid13 said: When your boat rocks once then gets demolished there's no time for that False. A raft have 20,000 hp: After 1 hit, it was at 15,203 hp: Since Leeds' damage/level doesn't scale, it will ALWAYS hit your raft for 4,797 hp. 20,000 / 4,797 = 4.17 rounded to 5 hits to down a raft. Conclusion: a Leed will NEVER one shot your raft unless you never repair it but that is on you to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: False. A raft have 20,000 hp: After 1 hit, it was at 15,203 hp: Since Leeds' damage/level doesn't scale, it will ALWAYS hit your raft for 4,797 hp. 20,000 / 4,797 = 4.17 rounded to 5 hits to down a raft. Conclusion: a Leed will NEVER one shot your raft unless you never repair it but that is on you to blame. Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 42 minutes ago, SatanicPopeye said: I believe you when you say a Leeds is spawned on that a-b route, but the way you are talking there is a Leeds every 20 meters. They really aren't that common. There's no one to kill them on no tame. I don't know why you are arguing about it. If it's not a problem why would we bother evening bringing it up? Think it through batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator invincibleqc Posted September 17, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, paulpot said: Alpha. Alpha deals 13,348 damage per hit meaning 2 hits so still not one shot. They also have the same amount of health as a regular one (4.4k hp) so they are a joke to kill. And even easier, due to their size. Seriously guys, stop being lazy and scout the sea and kill them (or kite them away) before moving your rafts across the map for moving resources farming, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpot Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: Alpha deals 13,348 damage per hit meaning 2 hits so still not one shot. They also have the same amount of health as a regular one (4.4k hp) so they are a joke to kill. And even easier, due to their size. Seriously guys, stop being lazy and scout the sea and kill them (or kite them away) before moving your rafts across the map for moving resources farming, etc. People pvp at sea so you've embarrassed yourself there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInverse Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, invincibleqc said: Alpha deals 13,348 damage per hit meaning 2 hits so still not one shot. They also have the same amount of health as a regular one (4.4k hp) so they are a joke to kill. And even easier, due to their size. Seriously guys, stop being lazy and scout the sea and kill them (or kite them away) before moving your rafts across the map for moving resources farming, etc. I feel like that's not true, I've had Alpha Leeds one-shot rafts easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanicPopeye Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, paulpot said: There's no one to kill them on no tame. I don't know why you are arguing about it. If it's not a problem why would we bother evening bringing it up? Think it through batman. LOL. Have you read these forums before? You are far from the first person to complain the game is too hard. Invariably it's a ltp issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyloCruxOnYouTube Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I mean, I agree that they are OP, but I feel that is the point of the game. Get a megaldon and cross the water that way if you're scared for Leeds. If you're on no tame servers, just avoid the water and let the Leeds weed out the stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyB Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Jat said: Perhaps, but doesn't hurt to talk about though people will exaggerate about everything! The game wasn't designed around no-taming servers, so there are going to be some things that don't quite work or are immensely different. To be fair they are not really exaggerating, I noticed it when the new servers came out too, first few days when the centre came out there was raft wars,, it's one of the most fun parts of low level pvp, now with the Leeds the new servers hardly had anyone out at sea, everyone was stuck hogging the shore line or running on foot, much less random pvp encounters. Should maybe limit the Leeds to 1 or two per map, or make them slower so you can out run them on a raft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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