Cecil Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 After looking at the engrams it has come to my attention that blue prints are over powered. Why is it certain saddles and armor etc are high level if I can avoid being that level just by being slightly lucky and getting a blue print? Simple fix would be that blue prints require that same level to use. Does anyone else agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonEnchantress Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 That's why the drops have certain level requirements. The good blueprints aren't gonna be in the blue drops. I'm not sure how that would be considered OP tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigod Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 that's the glory of the blueprint. a low level player can start crafting metal tier items early if he finds the blueprints for them. also, high quality blueprints are very valuable in this game. you can find some that boost your weapon damage by up to 290%, and if you can afford the materials to craft it then you have earned the right to use the "op" blueprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogue1995 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 LOL this forum is getting more like Reddit everyday. 70/70 thread would queue again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StabbyBobby Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Cecil said: After looking at the engrams it has come to my attention that blue prints are over powered. Why is it certain saddles and armor etc are high level if I can avoid being that level just by being slightly lucky and getting a blue print? Simple fix would be that blue prints require that same level to use. Does anyone else agree? Should luck play no part in your game experience? Also, BPs are excellent for trade, as they are light and almost anyone can use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrist14 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 18 hours ago, Cecil said: After looking at the engrams it has come to my attention that blue prints are over powered. Why is it certain saddles and armor etc are high level if I can avoid being that level just by being slightly lucky and getting a blue print? Simple fix would be that blue prints require that same level to use. Does anyone else agree? No. The limiting factor isn't level, very rarely do you find a good BP that you aren't the level for yet. And if so, you're probably new, and don't have a reasonable ability to gather the resources for it. Unless it's like riot or a quetzal platform BP, most people are going to be the level when they find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klakky Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 You cant open every crate unless ur a high lvl enough, how else would you get your blueprints?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 I understand thay drops are certain levels however the examples that concern me are rex, giga, and quetz. I feel that since you can get them out of level 60 or 80 drops respectivily it should be adjusted. It is not hard to farm for them at all either. I could be wrong but I am willing to wager that by the time anyone hits level 100 they will have the giga saddle bp hence making the engram 100% useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemplethwaite Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cecil said: I understand thay drops are certain levels however the examples that concern me are rex, giga, and quetz. I feel that since you can get them out of level 60 or 80 drops respectivily it should be adjusted. It is not hard to farm for them at all either. I could be wrong but I am willing to wager that by the time anyone hits level 100 they will have the giga saddle bp hence making the engram 100% useless. i have 2,500 hours in this game and have a couple of LVL 100 chars and never yet got a giga or rex saddle bp from a drop. It's a bit of luck any player can have and it adds to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay89 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 The engram's regarding saddles are well worth getting as we can only craft base def saddles so how are crate bps worthless when there better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 I feel like the bp should have a level requirement is all. Simple and gives purpose to both blue prints and levels. Obviously blue prints are better than engrams. And with 2.5k hours the only way you wouldnt find a BP for rex or giga is you never knew where to look or raided a tribe that found some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemplethwaite Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, Cecil said: And with 2.5k hours the only way you wouldnt find a BP for rex or giga is you never knew where to look or raided a tribe that found some. Really? According to the wiki there is only a 34.8% chance of getting an item from the red drop loot table from a red drop, most of the time it will be items from the loot tables for the lower level drops. And there are 33 items in the loot table for red drops so you only have a 1 in 33 or 0.3 % chance if the item is from the red drop loot table of that item being a Rex saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Hemplethwaite said: Really? According to the wiki there is only a 34.8% chance of getting an item from the red drop loot table from a red drop, most of the time it will be items from the loot tables for the lower level drops. And there are 33 items in the loot table for red drops so you only have a 1 in 33 or 0.3 % chance if the item is from the red drop loot table of that item being a Rex saddle. Agreed the red drop is a horrible source for those saddles however using the wiki you could find that other drops, caves, underwater greatly increase the likleyhood of those saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganelon Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 *sigh* Since you asked, the answer is 'No'... I do not agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvTheAwesomeDevs Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ganelon said: *sigh* Since you asked, the answer is 'No'... I do not agree. +1, IMHO it's a horrible idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor117 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/8/2017 at 6:27 PM, Cecil said: After looking at the engrams it has come to my attention that blue prints are over powered. Why is it certain saddles and armor etc are high level if I can avoid being that level just by being slightly lucky and getting a blue print? Simple fix would be that blue prints require that same level to use. Does anyone else agree? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimteralis Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 If you are able to survive under water and get the bps that way then I would say at that point lvl or no you earned those bps and that even under water drops do not drop the giga or q saddles that often. If you are finding many you are probably on an unofficial that has a better drops mod. Try one that has no drops if that is more to your liking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Fair enough if noone else agrees however it is rather silly for engrams to be such high level then. Also I play official pvp on Xbox so no mods and or unofficial stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLord Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Lol. They're OP? You must have just started playing. Wait until you find an ascendant saddle that requires so much material you can't use a smithy or fabricator to build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cattafett Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 arrow and tranq arrow BPs are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulta Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Heeeck no I do not agree. Any BP worth it's salt needs effort to get...rarely will you EVER find a good BP in a BEACON of all things...most of the good ones are in caves or underwater where alpha's guard it...which means you need to sink of time and effort into breeding for good dino's to go in after it. So nope...don't agree with you at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaProiettile Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The OP ones are the ones that give you a good cost to benefit ratio. I've had some really great journeyman rifle BPs that are super cheap and give great damage equal to mastercraft or ascendant but sometimes for a third of the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkyle37 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 8:37 PM, Cecil said: Fair enough if noone else agrees however it is rather silly for engrams to be such high level then. Also I play official pvp on Xbox so no mods and or unofficial stats. A level 1, heck a level 50 player will not be able to get any of the top tier BP's solo. You either have to open loot crates, that are limited by your level, kill very strong creatures, or delve in very difficult caves. I think that you issues is, "I just spent points in learning the raptor saddle, and not i found a green BP, making my points wasted OPOPOPOPOPOP" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palenor Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 3:07 PM, Cecil said: I understand thay drops are certain levels however the examples that concern me are rex, giga, and quetz. I feel that since you can get them out of level 60 or 80 drops respectivily it should be adjusted. It is not hard to farm for them at all either. I could be wrong but I am willing to wager that by the time anyone hits level 100 they will have the giga saddle bp hence making the engram 100% useless. Those three BPs are extremely rare in the game, and rarity goes up as tier level goes up, Ramshackle - Rare, Apprentice- More Rare, Journeyman - Even more rare, Mastercraft- OMG Rare, Ascended - Holy Crap, these exist? Rare. In the almost 2 years I have played, only ever looted TWO Rex saddle BP, they only drop from one or two certain areas, depending on the map you play. Had to buy the one I ended up with to get what I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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