Rickyh24 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Insulting people who want a finished product they bought to function correctly is an awful look. Just an FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypak Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Game is good but and to be fair it's prolly the best game put atm and going to be no1 for a while They need more servers and they should also think about a pvpve server where there is only pvp in the middle but can't attack/raid anywhere else on the map... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxBilly Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, TranqRex said: I can understand your argument, and I largely agree with most of it (especially the lack of lessons learned, communication and planning!). However remember GTA5 was in development for longer than ARK and Rockstar are a much larger company and developed it privately in-house. The difference is Wildcard chose to participate in Early Access, they could have easily done the behind-closed-doors approach. Agreed.. Like i said they tend to do things backwards and expect the player base to be ok with it .. Its just so disappointing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanna Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, TranqRex said: What's the problem? Jat probably can't influence the provision of servers at this precise moment so he's just tweeting out some other news. He probably can't tell you anything of actual importance, other than "they're on the way!". If he gave a time and it was missed, he'd be ridiculed. He tweets about the music, he's ridiculed. If he stayed silent, he'd be ridiculed. A serious question for the whiners (not directed at you Joanna) - is your life so void of anything meaningful that a day or so of no ARK makes it a crisis? I can understand your argument, and I largely agree with most of it (especially the lack of lessons learned, communication and planning!). However remember GTA5 was in development for longer than ARK and Rockstar are a much larger company and developed it privately in-house. The difference is Wildcard chose to participate in Early Access, they could have easily done the behind-closed-doors approach. I know.. But's that the problem, we don't even know if any are going to be created as they have not even responded to one enquiry about PC EU PVE Servers. This is the most frustrating part.. Even if they came out and said there will not be any that's better than silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark2084 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, TranqRex said: What's the problem? Jat probably can't influence the provision of servers at this precise moment so he's just tweeting out some other news. He probably can't tell you anything of actual importance, other than "they're on the way!". If he gave a time and it was missed, he'd be ridiculed. He tweets about the music, he's ridiculed. If he stayed silent, he'd be ridiculed. A serious question for the whiners (not directed at you Joanna) - is your life so void of anything meaningful that a day or so of no ARK makes it a crisis? Jat can't do anything it seems..... oh wait, he is one of the bosses... I know, maybe he could HIRE people that can get the job done? Maybe instead of tweeting 90% of the things on his feed he could actually be stepping up and getting information to pass on to the people that PAID him for a finished, stable product that we still haven't recieved. He likes the feel of power but he doesn't seem to want to use it to get his project completed. Oh and before it's said "what if nobody has any information to give him" do what any good boss would do... start firing people until somebody knows what's going on. There's a whole bunch of code monkeys that would love to have a job so replacing people shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtmorris Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Joanna said: And now we are getting pointless annoucements like this instead of getting information on what is happening with servers such as a complete lack of official PC EU PVE Servers. So unless it's something that you want to read, they can't say anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Hmmm, I can't go along with this being the worst launch ever... I seen far worse. The topper wasn't a launch though, but it was one of the very first major updates for EVE Online. Due to some ill advised coding their update managed to eliminate the Windows boot.ini file... rendering a persons computer completely un-bootable. After that, rough releases and updates don't really bother me that much anymore. I just step back and relax until things get sorted, and I plan my in game activities appropriately in advance to facilitate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanna Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, ranger1presents said: Hmmm, I can't go along with this being the worst launch ever... I seen far worse. The topper wasn't a launch though, but it was one of the very first major updates for EVE Online. Due to some ill advised coding their update managed to eliminate the Windows boot.ini file... rendering a persons computer completely un-bootable. After that, rough releases and updates don't really bother me that much anymore. I just step back and relax until things get sorted, and I plan my in game activities appropriately in advance to facilitate that. Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorjesus666 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 i've been in horrible game launches empire total war rome II total war (still gives me nightmares, i looked out for 8 years on a sequel for my most played game ever being rome total war) no man sky (refunded) the game itself, ark isn't that bad yes there are bugs, yes some poop sucks what upsets people is that they get no chance to play, too few servers. ark is a great game, with alot of potential, yet not "allways" used to th fullest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeningWei Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 All they had to do is use some of the 483 PC servers they deleted for the new PC servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranqRex Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, Dark2084 said: Jat can't do anything it seems..... oh wait, he is one of the bosses... I know, maybe he could HIRE people that can get the job done? Incorrect. As for the rest of your post, I'm sure Jat knows what's up. However he's also not under any obligation to give people a live feed as to what they're doing. When the relevant information is deemed to be for public knowledge, they'll release it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasui7 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Dark2084 said: In my opinion it is all their fault. They have little to no respect for the people that have been paying their bills. I sit here and I read people saying "it's not their fault, problems popped up, they're doing the best they can, blah blah blah". ETCETCETC I agree with the whole post. But this is what happens when a company gets big and their game is popular. I remember the EA release. They were fixing stuff and adding things(singleplayer) without sleep for the first few days. And see 2 years later, they have a steady income, popular game and suddenly they dont have to care anymore about their customers. "Here is a handful of servers and tough luck if its 24/7 full" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeningWei Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gasui7 said: I agree with the whole post. But this is what happens when a company gets big and their game is popular. I remember the EA release. They were fixing stuff and adding things(singleplayer) without sleep for the first few days. And see 2 years later, they have a steady income, popular game and suddenly they dont have to care anymore about their customers. "Here is a handful of servers and tough luck if its 24/7 full" It's not a steady income but it's a good one. They don't want to make too much long term expenditure commitments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheatTheReaper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 http://www.pcgamer.com/ark-survival-evolved-lawsuit-settled/ might get pulled down but the studio lost its butt on a lawsuit last year probably wiping out most of what was made from EA sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheatTheReaper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, TranqRex said: Incorrect. As for the rest of your post, I'm sure Jat knows what's up. However he's also not under any obligation to give people a live feed as to what they're doing. When the relevant information is deemed to be for public knowledge, they'll release it. According to his profile on the site he is also only 25 y/o. Most people have barely finished college at that point. the guy has helped create a groundbreaking game and while I hate the server issue as much as anyone else I can’t say I could have done it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardO Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, TranqRex said: Incorrect. As for the rest of your post, I'm sure Jat knows what's up. However he's also not under any obligation to give people a live feed as to what they're doing. When the relevant information is deemed to be for public knowledge, they'll release it. True there is no obligation. And yeah some people would like more information and others would just use it against them so it makes sense that they stay quiet a bit. Sean Murray tucked himself away pretty good after the release of no mans sky so WC could definitely be doing worse. Still, I maintain that good communication is what separates a good company from a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Well my last post was deleted so let's do this again WildCard is taking use the player and customer for a ride first of we still have a broken game that simple first year student could fix, Still have not added enough servers so that a person isn't waiting a week to play on one of the maps, and Finally they want us to pay again for expansions after we already purchased. So if you want your next exp you have to buy scorched earth again and if you already own it what do you get nothing but a copy of the game you cannot gift or even play because you not allowed to get 2 copys from steam so there goes another 50 bucks and there is another ? what the heck are you guys thinking 50-60 bucks for an exp this is not WOW and your not blizzard your game is broke so bad we still have dinos falling through the world. Also you customer support blows and I find it funny you have make appointment with GM just to have the GM cancel on you everytime way to take care of the customer. I don't know about you guys but after buying a expansion that was broken and now they want us to buy it again just to get the next ones I think is enough to cause the major players of the game to quit. I mean look how many people opted out and got there money back yesterday if I knowed this I would have took the option you know why because you guys are not worried about fixing the game you just want the money. PLEASE READ STEAMS SALE ON SCORCHED EARTH BEFORE REPLYING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnm81 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Here is something interesting... Their big release after two years... Not one bit of a spike in players. So they royally piss off all the new network people with lack of servers. They piss off the legacy people by lying to them breaking transfers and leaving them high and dry blindly deleting their servers thus deleting player characters and dinos. Not a good way of doing things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnluckyRose24 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I think it was a great launch! Why? Sing it with me... All the singleplayers, all the singleplayers, all the singleplayers - now put your hands up! Up in the ARK, when the servers arent up, just doing my own little thing! hehe.. I kid, I kid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Now how are you getting there not have you read steams page you get the next 3 expansion if you purchase scorched earth. Do we the people that already bought the Scorched get this and you need to do some research buddy before you come in here spitting out nothing useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gumbie said: Well my last post was deleted so let's do this again WildCard is taking use the player and customer for a ride first of we still have a broken game that simple first year student could fix, No, a first year student is not able to fix the outstanding issues. If you're going to start any discussion like this, then there's really not much of a discussion to be had actually. 6 minutes ago, Gumbie said: Still have not added enough servers so that a person isn't waiting a week to play on one of the maps They are actually closing servers to get rid of the deserted ones. New people are going to be joining servers where people are actually playing. The majority of players that I know actually run their own servers, and I'm pretty sure that people coming to the game now is because they are being referred by friends. Meaning they will have a place to play and feel welcome. 7 minutes ago, Gumbie said: Finally they want us to pay again for expansions after we already purchased. So if you want your next exp you have to buy scorched earth again and if you already own it what do you get nothing but a copy of the game you cannot gift or even play because you not allowed to get 2 copys from steam so there goes another 50 bucks and there is another ? what the heck are you guys thinking 50-60 bucks for an exp this is not WOW and your not blizzard your game is broke so bad we still have dinos falling through the world. Oh wow, a company trying to make money because they officially launched and are recognised as a decent game. By what kind of logic does getting a free copy even make sense? When I purchase a car that's being sold at a discount because it's a prototype, what company is going to give me a second free car when they worked out all issues? You knew in advance you were getting into a pre-release of the game, and you had enough chance to get the game cheap at 15$ or less back then. Want to NOT deal with issues and testing, then yes you're going to be paying the retail price for it. And please give me one single game that is 100% bug free. 9 minutes ago, Gumbie said: Also you customer support blows and I find it funny you have make appointment with GM just to have the GM cancel on you everytime way to take care of the customer. I don't know about you guys but after buying a expansion that was broken and now they want us to buy it again just to get the next ones I think is enough to cause the major players of the game to quit. I mean look how many people opted out and got there money back yesterday if I knowed this I would have took the option you know why because you guys are not worried about fixing the game you just want the money Yes the GMs are absolutely out to get you. Do you also have any facts/statistics to back up your refund claims? They have been fixing the game, for quite some time, and did a good job at getting rid of bugs. Did they fix everything? Nope, they will keep working on things. inb4 fanboi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerJackx13 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 How satisfied are you with the with the official Release of Ark? Does it live up to expectation? What do you feel is lacking of any? 1-10 what would you give it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I think he is a bit confused. There is a Season Pass that includes 3 DLC (SE and two new ones that will come out). However if you already own SE the steam page will be one that reflects a discounted price, so that you aren't effectively being charged twice for SE. Some folks seem to be a little confused by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivar Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 11/10: Playing the game, new character. Wake up on a sandy beach only to get violently mauled by a raptor. Restart again, chasing dodo's only to rage-quit later on because of a pack of Troodons. Took a break cause of the rage. Then came back with a giant club to smack the crap out of a dodo to feel better. After a while finally build a base, life is going great. Too good apparently according to my neighbourhood T-Rex. Play the game with the following in mind: Bug exists, both in the game and in the code You will die at some point. The sooner you accept this, the less the rage will be. Ark's Law: If you can get screwed over in this game, it will happen twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerJackx13 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Olivar said: 11/10: Playing the game, new character. Wake up on a sandy beach only to get violently mauled by a raptor. Restart again, chasing dodo's only to rage-quit later on because of a pack of Troodons. Took a break cause of the rage. Then came back with a giant club to smack the crap out of a dodo to feel better. After a while finally build a base, life is going great. Too good apparently according to my neighbourhood T-Rex. Play the game with the following in mind: Bug exists, both in the game and in the code You will die at some point. The sooner you accept this, the less the rage will be. Ark's Law: If you can get screwed over in this game, it will happen twice. well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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