ammonitida Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 https://www.livescience.com/9519-rex-outrun-humans.html Ark is pretty inaccurate. Compys are easily outrunned by a human at base movement speed. Real compys ran at 40mph, far faster than even the fastest humans. Velociraptor, or microraptor as it's known in Ark is also way too slow. Because Ark Dilophosaurus is smaller than the real life counterpart, it should be even faster than 23mph. Allosaurus and Tyrannosaurus are more accurate, with Ark Allos being faster than Rex and humans. Jeremy recently prided himself in the accuracy of his Ark dinos (see his T REX not having feathers tweet), so he should FIX this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffyPony Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 This is a pretty old article, but it's been more recently pointed out that a lot of dinosaurs (in particular larger ones such as the Tyrannosaurus) were probably not that fast because running at high speeds would have caused a great deal of instability, likely causing them to fall over or break bones. That said, ARK's dinosaurs are not real life dinosaurs. This much is very clear from the dossiers, so ARK is not bound to follow the constrains of real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGCookies Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Not to mention the science on real life dinos is what we believe but is not proved fact for all we know science could be wrong and ark has it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfrostyscriv Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Its a game and in no way meant to be completely accurate as humans never co-existed with dinosaurs, never had tek and many of the dinos never co-existed either. His tweet was more of a comical/sarcastic tweet. You can not and should not compare this game to 'real life' since no one is 100% sure how fast they were or how they behaved and interacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, OGCookies said: Not to mention the science on real life dinos is what we believe but is not proved fact for all we know science could be wrong and ark has it right That's not how science works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGCookies Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: That's not how science works. Enlighten me then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonLordCronos Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 First you have to compare bone and muscle structures to modern birds and reptiles, second you need to figure speed or the modern animal and size difference between the 2, third build a model and measure its speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffyPony Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: That's not how science works. Actually, it is. Science is just a methodology and philosophy that objective and repeatable experimentation can lead to bases by which we can come to firm conclusions about the world and how it works. Nothing is actually proven in science--that's why you hear about theories and postulates and experiments, not facts and rules. You do hear about laws, but these are more of a misnomer to indicate a theory that has gathered immense support. Even laws, though, are inherently falsifiable because science dictates that any theory could be wrong. In short, science by definition helps direct us to what we believe to be right based on concurrent evidence. A good example is that paleontologists once thought the T. rex to be highly feathered like many smaller theropods. Now, they don't think so. Why? Because, through the machinations of scientific study, they determined the evidence was inconsistent, so they now believe it unlikely. But could they be wrong? Scientifically, we have to say yes. There is no other answer. Science does direct a search for truth, but it cannot give us certainty, so in this respect, @OGCookies is right. It's what we believe (with the caveat of being based on evidence), not what is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGCookies Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, PuffyPony said: Actually, it is. Science is just a methodology and philosophy that objective and repeatable experimentation can lead to bases by which we can come to firm conclusions about the world and how it works. Nothing is actually proven in science--that's why you hear about theories and postulates and experiments, not facts and rules. You do hear about laws, but these are more of a misnomer to indicate a theory that has gathered immense support. Even laws, though, are inherently falsifiable because science dictates that any theory could be wrong. In short, science by definition helps direct us to what we believe to be right based on concurrent evidence. A good example is that paleontologists once thought the T. rex to be highly feathered like many smaller theropods. Now, they don't think so. Why? Because, through the machinations of scientific study, they determined the evidence was inconsistent, so they now believe it unlikely. But could they be wrong? Scientifically, we have to say yes. There is no other answer. Science does direct a search for truth, but it cannot give us certainty, so in this respect, @OGCookies is right. It's what we believe (with the caveat of being based on evidence), not what is fact. Well said ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerstuck Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 In real life humans weren't able to tame Rexes. But hey, why not make it like it was all in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irk Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 While we're at it, we should have mages of all RPG games stop casting magic because magic isn't real. And those summoners! Those things are super fake; no way can they really do that in real life for real though! This is why I hate video games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouSpowells Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, ammonitida said: https://www.livescience.com/9519-rex-outrun-humans.html Ark is pretty inaccurate. Compys are easily outrunned by a human at base movement speed. Real compys ran at 40mph, far faster than even the fastest humans. Velociraptor, or microraptor as it's known in Ark is also way too slow. Because Ark Dilophosaurus is smaller than the real life counterpart, it should be even faster than 23mph. Allosaurus and Tyrannosaurus are more accurate, with Ark Allos being faster than Rex and humans. Jeremy recently prided himself in the accuracy of his Ark dinos (see his T REX not having feathers tweet), so he should FIX this. Are you seriously nitpicking this? Are you seriously pointing out realism in a game where you knock out dinosaurs with bows dipped in berry juice, earn their trust by force feeding them ham steaks, and ride them with saddles once they've learned to trust you? Seriously? Dinosaurs that went extinct millions of years apart living together, magically placed in an artificial ecosystem with regenerative vegetation, underwater caves with oxygen, and a force field barrier surrounding the whole enchilada? Humans with digital holographic displays/trackers implanted into their arm that magically wake up in a bed or on a beach when they die? There's a frog the size of a Volkswagen Beetle that licks things and makes them pass out. A limousine-sized armored centipede that spits corrosive acid? A bird small enough to sit on your shoulder that can eat a multi-ton dinosaur in a couple bites? ...but yeah, that run speed thing is totally ruining my immersion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 @PuffyPony It was a Science-Religion joke. Of course science is also about theories and speculations. But I have to disagree that nothing has been proven by science. Science has proven a lot of things. For example that a buttered toast will fall on the butter side because it's heavier. Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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