Titus Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Now that PvE is under the same ghost scrutiny all the would have to do is have taming and breeding events on the new servers and not the legacy ones and you would see a mass exodus. This is all smoke and mirrors for a slow wipe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acavichiolo Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 @Jat so the isolated ragnarok servers will be wiped? I dont see any problem with that since its new and so unstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngrySaltire Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, X4mi said: So it is now set in Stone and fully confirmed? 1 minute ago, Musketeer said: Yes Didnt take them long to change their mind. Why didnt they just start with the now set in stone option ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper2662 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maxine said: I would assume that the server would need to be super low on numbers and activity at all times of the day, and i would hopefully assume that they would check the server out before they just write it off as a ghost town im hoping the same but you never know with this game man. its like a coin toss heads you lose a hand tails you lose a foot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted July 19, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Nick11992 said: I read the entire article, but my question is for console release of Ragnarok. There is no mention to console Ragnarok servers being legacy since the date of console Ragnarok release is same as full game release. My question is if they are creating Legacy Ragnarok servers for console on release. Yes there will be legacy Ragnarok servers for console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator Joebl0w13 Posted July 19, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Titus said: Now that PvE is under the same ghost scrutiny all the would have to do is have taming and breeding events on the new servers and not the legacy ones and you would see a mass exodus. This is all smoke and mirrors for a slow wipe This is 100% true. The old PVE servers will die quickly without the ability to trade with the new ones. EDIT: I'm rethinking this... I don't think they will die. There's room for both ecosystems to exist mutually exclusive of each other. Edited July 19, 2017 by Joebl0w13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick11992 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 minute ago, GP said: Yes there will be legacy Ragnarok servers for console. Great! Thanks for the help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolo XL Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, Joebl0w13 said: This is 100% true. The old PVE servers will die quickly without the ability to trade with the new ones. One part solved, now you gotta find anotehr thing that is not perfect? I guess at some point you have to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnWolf Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Thanks for all of your hard work! I'm digging the recent pc update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcookedX Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I just hope they do release on the 8th. If they don't I'm sure they will loose 20% of players if not more. I'm holding my breath and praying for no more delays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandaBear Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) @Jat Nice Definitely good news for everyone. Thanks for listening guys. I do have a question of whether or not there will be small clusters of the new servers? I like the fact that those bypass mega tribes, but don't think I saw anything mentioned of those in the past 8 pages. I never got the chance to jump onto one before since I didn't fully understand what they were until it was to late, but would love the opportunity to now. Edited July 19, 2017 by MandaBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniak Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I understand the need to seperate the two into different clusters. From a business standpoint everybody is happy and life goes on. So props to the team there I definitely think it was the best solution right now. I do have a concern, however, and that is just speculating there may be less "policing" on legacy servers in the future and more concentration on the cleaner, new ones. Maybe there will be a time in the future the two groups won't be seperate. Nj guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slannder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Will the PC Hosted Dedicated servers Also become cross play with Steam for PS4 users at the same time they become Play Anywhere for Xbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Insomniak said: I understand the need to seperate the two into different clusters. From a business standpoint everybody is happy and life goes on. So props to the team there I definitely think it was the best solution right now. I do have a concern, however, and that is just speculating there may be less "policing" on legacy servers in the future and more concentration on the cleaner, new ones. Maybe there will be a time in the future the two groups won't be seperate. Nj guys! They wont be separate threw assimilation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted July 19, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, XcookedX said: I just hope they do release on the 8th. If they don't I'm sure they will loose 20% of players if not more. I'm holding my breath and praying for no more delays Yup they will be, it's a hard date. Disc submission has been completed, things are set to go for launch. No missing the date now! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePotatoChip Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, XcookedX said: I just hope they do release on the 8th. If they don't I'm sure they will loose 20% of players if not more. I'm holding my breath and praying for no more delays I'm not all that sure. A lot of people seem to think that ARK pushing release back would be a benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese1976 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 @Jat can we move private dedicated servers from our ps4 to the new pc hosted version or do we need to start a fresh if we want to have the benefits a pc host provides? Just asking so I know whether to keep everyone building or tell them to make materials for a move to a new server with their tames ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) I had enthusiasm to play more, but now when I see old PvE servers are doomed to fail I'm just back to usual thing I've been doing for last month, resetting timers. Edited July 19, 2017 by Musketeer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumDuud Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I am glad to hear about the PvE decision, though it doesn't really impact me a lot. I am absolutely amazed at all of the people still whining about "slow wipe" and so on. If you have a decent size tribe and play, your server should be fine. If you're the sole survivor on your server any time you get on, then maybe consider moving because you may be headed for extinction. I fully expect the solutions provided to maintain a solid player base of existing servers and booming new servers. I want to see the Alphas go ham against one another and use up all of their duped goodies once they can't get any more (even before then I would be ok with it). If duping is fixed, the imbalance will work itself out. Kudos to the Wildcard team, I think you've made the right decision. Now please quit reading comments and go fix the bugs and stability issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 minute ago, SumDuud said: I am glad to hear about the PvE decision, though it doesn't really impact me a lot. I am absolutely amazed at all of the people still whining about "slow wipe" and so on. If you have a decent size tribe and play, your server should be fine. If you're the sole survivor on your server any time you get on, then maybe consider moving because you may be headed for extinction. I fully expect the solutions provided to maintain a solid player base of existing servers and booming new servers. I want to see the Alphas go ham against one another and use up all of their duped goodies once they can't get any more (even before then I would be ok with it). If duping is fixed, the imbalance will work itself out. Kudos to the Wildcard team, I think you've made the right decision. Now please quit reading comments and go fix the bugs and stability issues. I'm not whining it is what it is but let the devs call it what it is. They want to wipe it fine but this PR junk makes me sick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkasaurio Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Great work WC! I've thought for a long time that legacy vs. new servers, exactly how you described, is the best way to go forward in the interest of all players. It's not just whether it's technically (technologically) the best course, it allows you to keep your word to EA players and give new, full release players (and EA'ers that want it), a totally fresh start. I've been wiped enough playing PvP, a wipe wouldn't have bothered me that all that much, and I for one will probably start fresh on launch. Still, I really think this is the best and most fair compromise for all players and all interests. *Hat Off* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger1 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Titus said: I'm not whining it is what it is but let the devs call it what it is. They want to wipe it fine but this PR junk makes me sick. Titus, you do realize that they were going to leave PVE completely alone up until about 1/2 hour ago, but changed their mind due to the strong response of the player base. They are trying to be responsive to the players needs and requests, it's not a grand conspiracy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 minute ago, ranger1presents said: Titus, you do realize that they were going to leave PVE completely alone up until about 1/2 hour ago, but changed their mind due to the strong response of the player base. They are trying to be responsive to the players needs and requests, it's not a grand conspiracy. There was about 10 post between leaving PvE alone and going legacy. This is exactly the problem. Their statements are good for about 5 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, ranger1presents said: but changed their mind due to the strong response of the player base Yeah.. like 3 people posting 20 posts each 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1r3fly Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Woohoo love you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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