BookofBlade Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Another factor beyond the duping and all that is if person A built up their base and stockpile of supplies using a weight glitched speed quetz for months in order to collect supplies how is person B supposed to use the current systems in order to be able to challenge person A without having to put in many many times the effort originally input by person A? Regardless if the people are new or not 2 people of equal skill, knowledge, and ability should be able to put in the same amount of effort and expect to receive the same results however in the current state of the game the changes that were made were so drastic that you are essentially playing a totally different game than someone who built up prior to the flyer nerf among other changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUSHOETMI Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, BookofBlade said: Another factor beyond the duping and all that is if person A built up their base and stockpile of supplies using a weight glitched speed quetz for months in order to collect supplies how is person B supposed to use the current systems in order to be able to challenge person A without having to put in many many times the effort originally input by person A? Regardless if the people are new or not 2 people of equal skill, knowledge, and ability should be able to put in the same amount of effort and expect to receive the same results however in the current state of the game the changes that were made were so drastic that you are essentially playing a totally different game than someone who built up prior to the flyer nerf among other changes. +1 totally correct, infact the only people who can rightly justify being against the wipe are those who have bought the game in the last month or so, and even then the time they have invested isn't enough to complain about starting again. Personally I don't think they will wipe on release, I think they will do it a few weeks/month after release, they have put most of their time into the disk version as of late and giving single player alot of needed love, they haven't really started to change multiplayer yet so once they have had the time to fix aspects of multiplayer I think then they will wipe if they are going to do, so I wouldn't be surprised if you get a statement tomorrow saying "as said earlier by Jeremy we will not be wiping on release, however it is a strong possibility we will further down the line when multiplayer is sorted" That way Jeremy saves face and they can wipe when they're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniak Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 7 hours ago, X111 said: lets stir up the conspiracy theorists shall we? I would put a very large, substantial amount of money on the guess that Jeremy would love to clean wipe the servers in the near future.. where's the conspiracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X111 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Insomniak said: I would put a very large, substantial amount of money on the guess that Jeremy would love to clean wipe the servers in the near future.. where's the conspiracy? I was jokingly referring to the fact he liked the statement and response request on the tweet. I was sitting on the fence initially and handing out kindling to see what takes fire, that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardO Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/17/2017 at 9:45 AM, Jat said: If we have anything to say in regards to a wipe or not a wipe, we'll post about it. My personal opinion is they are either thinking about it really hard, or they are planning on doing it. Otherwise they'd just say Nope not wiping as we promised before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRISTWI10 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 It would be so incredibly exciting if they wiped. Truly would be a travesty if they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ckyBandit Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, BeardO said: My personal opinion is they are either thinking about it really hard, or they are planning on doing it. Otherwise they'd just say Nope not wiping as we promised before. Wait....? You mean you cant draw a definitive conclusion off of that extremely vague statement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardO Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, St1ckyBandit said: Wait....? You mean you cant draw a definitive conclusion off of that extremely vague statement ? Considering it's WC, there is no telling what they will do. Nothing they do makes sense so logic can't be applied. But usually in the business world, if you ask a direct question and don't get a direct answer...it's 90% of the time because they know you will rage at the answer lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGCookies Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, St1ckyBandit said: Wait....? You mean you cant draw a definitive conclusion off of that extremely vague statement ? Think it was pretty clear statement of they have nothing to say on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlorianX Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Wal62 said: To wipe or not to wipe, That is the question. If you dont you end up with a lot of clingons Conan exiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniak Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, X111 said: I was jokingly referring to the fact he liked the statement and response request on the tweet. I was sitting on the fence initially and handing out kindling to see what takes fire, that's all Lol no worries it will take more than a like to change some people's mind one way or another. Hell, it might even take more than an official statement or.. several Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legislator Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 4 hours ago, GP said: I'm sure that if he does mention the wipe question tomorrow it will result in more activity in this thread. So there will be an official statement by Wildcard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted July 18, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just now, Legislator said: So there will be an official statement by Wildcard? There will be an official "state of the game" on Wednesday which will cover what's happening over the next month. However, whether it will include an answer about a wipe is unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X111 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Insomniak said: Lol no worries it will take more than a like to change some people's mind one way or another. Hell, it might even take more than an official statement or.. several don't give them ideas lol they've already got everyone's imaginations fired up with tomorrows meeting, I'm not going to lie, being in a 2 man tribe, getting a 98% and 65% giga imprint, 150 perfect tames on argy, rex's and quetz as well as the amount of MC and ASC gear and base builds I will be a bit salty after a wipe but it is what it is I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmyth Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 In my opinion a wipe won't achieve anything. Firstly WC will lose a lot of old members. Secondly mega tribes will still be mega tribes. Thirdly if they're releasing new servers that you can't transfer into (Fresh Start Rangarok servers) why can't they do the same for Island / Centre, have Beta Servers and Full release Servers seperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iStephano Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Off topic, got to hand it to GP he's (she?) been on all day answering question with good response. Good job I salute you! (Today's positive feedback) ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniak Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 4 hours ago, YUSHOETMI said: We do allow new players but we have to trust them first which is the biggest issue in this game, if a tribe has a new member incoming we turn of defences in a certain area and let them spawn before putting them up again, and there is even an area people can spawn if they can find it where there is a "safe zone" where they cant really escape but won't be killed instantly, best part is its usually the last place somebody joining a server will spawn so they will have already lost any gear to break out with by then. Granted if the tribes fight again then it could all end in tears but upto now its been more about the outside problems than the internal struggles. Granted yeah a large tribe can do alot in just a few days, but not when it comes to breeding or taming the likes of gigas and whatnot, plus hopefully if they rearrange the servers then some of the large tribes will end up together eventually wiping one and setting them both back by a good while, giving the fresher spawns time to develop further, plus most big tribes are the ones saying they'll quit if they wipe so they will probably have less numbers either way. Time will tell, I just want the game to reach its potential rather than stay at this level of broke its at now. You bring up a good truth here which many overlook and that is defenses on existing pvp servers are not necessarily out to get the new player still trying to figure out controls but to repel (even temporarily) an outside attack that may or may not be with legit assets. Everyone is pointing out the bad with everything on the current servers- overlooked are the alphas on pvp looking out for the smaller tribes and pve, the welcoming of someone who's taken the time to communicate, respectfully, with the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted July 18, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, iStephano said: Off topic, got to hand it to GP he's (she?) been on all day answering question with good response. Good job I salute you! (Today's positive feedback) ?? Thanks, and it's 'he'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lewiatan Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 It is high time to state if there will be wipes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebtessier Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 They should wipe half the servers and keep half. Each being in clusters. Stated "vanilla server" and "launch server". Everybody would be happy. Wamna play with old dino? Move them and go on. Restart without buying a thyla lvl 250 for 150 ingot? They got you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted July 18, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, sebtessier said: They should wipe half the servers and keep half. Each being in clusters. Stated "vanilla server" and "launch server". Everybody would be happy. Wamna play with old dino? Move them and go on. Restart without buying a thyla lvl 250 for 150 ingot? They got you. Everybody would be happy? So how would WC decide which half to wipe and which half to not wipe? Why would the half being wiped be happy that they were chosen to be wiped and the other half not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebtessier Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 minute ago, GP said: Everybody would be happy? So how would WC decide which half to wipe and which half to not wipe? Why would the half being wiped be happy that they were chosen to be wiped and the other half not? The long part of the game is breeding, mating and gathering. The base is very east to do with High dino. Find a new place an settle down. Its better than simply being wipe off from hundreds of breeding/taming hours. I would prefer losing a 20h work on a base than bred rex, quetz and giga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0oNightmareo0o Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 At this point, I really don't even care if its wiped or not, I just wish they would give an answer to the question. The length of avoidance making me lean towards a wipe is gonna happen. As maybe it should with how much the game has changed, exploit fixes, etc. Who knows right?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinuxGyver Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, sebtessier said: The long part of the game is breeding, mating and gathering. The base is very east to do with High dino. Find a new place an settle down. Its better than simply being wipe off from hundreds of breeding/taming hours. I would prefer losing a 20h work on a base than bred rex, quetz and giga Not true, there's a lot of ways to play ark. Some are breeding, effectively, but some others are bases builders (see screenshots section). Building a great base take lot of time, and some creativity too. On pve servers we see lot of great bases. Bases builders wouldn't see their base be wiped at any cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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