Majix Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 So can any dev elaborate on what "rebalance" has been done to BM? We crave details please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWilson Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 lowered timer to 5 min and enrages at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 34 minutes ago, WWilson said: lowered timer to 5 min and enrages at 3 Seems like a troll attempt.. but i wouldnt put it past em lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Either it's element reward rebalance, timer increase on hard, stat reduction on hard or they did none of that and just made gamma brood harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windsinger Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Curious about the changes too, love notes like "Re-balanced <something>" with a hidden note of "Go discover yourself Mwahahahaha". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 ... and lose 20 rexes in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: Either it's element reward rebalance, timer increase on hard, stat reduction on hard or they did none of that and just made gamma brood harder. I hope all but the last part.. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invictus1193 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Beta broodmother gives 14 Element... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifixxed Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Quote AI Improvements. She'll spawn minions more efficiently (also dangerously), the spider webs from these minions are much more effective than they were previously, she'll be better at targeting when people are out of range / too high for her to reach and will shoot skill shots better. Reason for the change was to make the creature not exploitable in the sense that she wouldn't be able to damage ya cause of a height difference or you get it stuck etc, as well as to make it more of a threat. Got this from reddit, here. Testing it in SP, ill let you know how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Jatheish Posted June 6, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 6, 2017 ^ Bingo. Though there's a possibility it can still change in the coming days as we're also running it through its paces to see how it fairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UDGxKnight Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Well all I know is hard Broodmother hits like 10 18-wheeler big trucks and it scares me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWilson Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jat said: ^ Bingo. Though there's a possibility it can still change in the coming days as we're also running it through its paces to see how it fairs. why cant this kind of thing be included in detailed patch notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Jatheish Posted June 6, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, WWilson said: why cant this kind of thing be included in detailed patch notes? Depends on who edits the notes really, I was having a nap when this build was made but I am going to adjust the notes to include these changes Just a note, there was also a reduction to its health and damage (and as I mentioned previously, it may see additional changes going forward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I've tested the Gamma and Alpha B-mom. Unofficial server but vanilla settings, no damage or damage resistance reductions. The spider minions use their web while moving. If you're on a Rex, don't count on ever getting free of the web debuff. It's a bit overkill at the moment On Gamma she seem to do a bit less damage, 250 damage per Acid Ball. Can't say for sure. On Alpha she also seem to do less damage. "only" 1250 damage per Acid Ball. I seem to remember it being a lot higher as previous Rex armies used have melted away in less than a minute at one point. The Alpha version has A LOT less HP. Gamma version had 1.1 million and the Hard version only had 2.3 million. That's more than half the HP last time I fought her where she was at 4.5 million HP. Did I just roll horribly bad on the HP before? Getting her into the trench and shooting at her from above won't work as before. She will attempt to get around and up onto the bridge now, while also spitting waaay higher with both web and acid balls, so beware. Her minions will also spit from all the way down on the floor They won't hit their target but A for effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifixxed Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, HighFlyer15 said: The Alpha version has A LOT less HP. Gamma version had 1.1 million and the Hard version only had 2.3 million. That's more than half the HP last time I fought her where she was at 4.5 million HP. Did I just roll horribly bad on the HP before? Yes, Yes you did. Just spawn ALpha her a couple times out of the arena then kill it and check health. Its roll per lvl might have gone down a little but not much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, ifixxed said: Yes, Yes you did. Just spawn ALpha her a couple times out of the arena then kill it and check health. Its roll per lvl might have gone down a little but not much Jat just confirmed less HP above my comment, so hopefully I'll see a lot less HP in the future *crossing fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifixxed Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 hours ago, HighFlyer15 said: Jat just confirmed less HP above my comment, so hopefully I'll see a lot less HP in the future *crossing fingers* Hate to say it but I dont think Alpha got the less HP. If you spawn it in at lvl 1 it has the base health that the wiki states. I spawned a lvl 2 till I saw a change in the health and it happened to be 620,000, meaning it got 200,000 from a wild lvl into health. I then went into the arena and killed her then spawned her in and killed it to check health, here are the results, 4820000 = 22 points into health 4620000 = 21 Points into health 4020000 = 18 points into health 3820000 = 17 points into health 2820000 = 12 points into health I spawned her in around 25 times and got multiple 4620000 health versions. This would mean your 2.3m health would be 9 or 10 rolls into health... So, again Yes, you did have a low health roll. Also worth note, the element you get from the modes has been reduced. Easy gives 7 Medium gives 14 Hard gives 30 (Yes, 30) This appeared to be a very temp reward, it is not back to normal Ill keep testing and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, ifixxed said: Easy gives 7 Medium gives 14 Hard gives 30 (Yes, 30) @Jat This can't be intentional, can it? The Broodmother is the hardest of the bosses right now. The Mega's HP pool is fair and a rock you can see coming The Dragon has an easy to move accordingly to pattern but annoying Dimorphs. Fire breath can be dodged if you count the bites, so not pointing it as a B-mom has web with slow effect, a ton of minions with slow effect and the most damaging attack in the entire game with her acid spit which pierces armor and the biggest HP pool of them all. She's the one I like farming the least, not even on Easy, and yet she gives the least Element too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Moderator GP Posted June 6, 2017 Volunteer Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, ifixxed said: Also worth note, the element you get from the modes has been reduced. Easy gives 7 Medium gives 14 Hard gives 30 (Yes, 30) Ill keep testing and report back. This sucks for officials. I mean 7 can't even be shared between 10 players, not that you need 10 players for easy Brood. Unofficials for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Jatheish Posted June 6, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 6, 2017 We'll probably be adjusting as we go along, just want to make sure that there aren't any exploitable/abusable ways to kill the bosses. 27 minutes ago, ifixxed said: Hate to say it but I dont think Alpha got the less HP. If you spawn it in at lvl 1 it has the base health that the wiki states. I spawned a lvl 2 till I saw a change in the health and it happened to be 620,000, meaning it got 200,000 from a wild lvl into health. I then went into the arena and killed her then spawned her in and killed it to check health, here are the results, 4820000 = 22 points into health 4620000 = 21 Points into health 4020000 = 18 points into health 3820000 = 17 points into health 2820000 = 12 points into health I spawned her in around 25 times and got multiple 4620000 health versions. This would mean your 2.3m health would be 9 or 10 rolls into health... So, again Yes, you did have a low health roll. Also worth note, the element you get from the modes has been reduced. Easy gives 7 Medium gives 14 Hard gives 30 (Yes, 30) Ill keep testing and report back. Positive you're on the latest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vantheman Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just happy to hear that BM's health was reduced, will see if I can get enough ppl from my server to give alpha difficulty a try :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jat said: We'll probably be adjusting as we go along, just want to make sure that there aren't any exploitable/abusable ways to kill the bosses Makes sense. The lower amount of Element was simply the last of all things I had imagined seeing Btw, I just went up against the Hard Broodmother 4 times more and every time she had 2.3 million HP. Newest patch. I can only assume spawning her in gives her the wrong values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifixxed Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, HighFlyer15 said: Makes sense. The lower amount of Element was simply the last of all things I had imagined seeing Btw, I just went up against the Hard Broodmother 4 times more and every time she had 2.3 million HP. Newest patch. I can only assume spawning her in gives her the wrong values? What lvl was she when fought her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer15 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, ifixxed said: What lvl was she when fought her 124 every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Jatheish Posted June 6, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 6, 2017 ifixxed - Are you hosting on a Linux server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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