Milsurp Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I've recently tamed two birds on the unofficial server I play on. It's completely unmodded, same as an official except 2x taming rate and shorter night. The 140 Argent I tamed only got 55 levels instead of 69 and the 120 ptera I just tamed only got 17(!!) levels instead of 59. They were both standard tames with a 160% tranq crossbow. Using the Ptera as an example, I bola'd it, put two tranq arrows into its head spaced about 8 secs apart, then built a thatch shelter over it and stayed with it for the tame. I did nothing else but feed it tranqs and wait until its food was down about 700 before feeding it kibble (forgot we are on 2x tame). Has there been any changes anyone else has noticed? I did see that the health of the birds only went up a tiny bit and then they stopped healing. Didn't they used to keep healing through the whole tame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I haven't noticed anything, with 160% crossbow you might have only needed one headshot? Did effectiveness start at 100% and drop? Or was it already below that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbrat Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I have noticed same thing. I play on official .. I have tamed 3 level 150 dodo birds... one during a non event.. knocked it out with 2 shots using normal tranq darts.. used nacro berries and mojo and it stood up at 180 (should have stood at 191). A week later during the 1.5 event.. I knocked out two more dodo's level 150.. used narcs on it and one mojo and one mojo and a few other berries.. one stood at 195 and the other 192. both should have stood at 205. This happened with a few other tames using kibble... Also noticed when they did the flyer nerf, that some of my dino's are now at a lower level than what they stood up at when I tamed them.. go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valys Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Yes, it's happened to me a few times as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 could it be related to the loss of MS on fliers? ive noticed it too on argy and ptera tames since the balancing changes but not on other dinos - maybe the points are not spread back in from the loss and are just "wasted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 13 hours ago, Bearbrat said: I have noticed same thing. I play on official .. I have tamed 3 level 150 dodo birds... one during a non event.. knocked it out with 2 shots using normal tranq darts.. used nacro berries and mojo and it stood up at 180 (should have stood at 191). A week later during the 1.5 event.. I knocked out two more dodo's level 150.. used narcs on it and one mojo and one mojo and a few other berries.. one stood at 195 and the other 192. both should have stood at 205. This happened with a few other tames using kibble... Also noticed when they did the flyer nerf, that some of my dino's are now at a lower level than what they stood up at when I tamed them.. go figure! Narcoberries are bad for effectiveness. That's why. OP, clearly something hit your tames while they where KO'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valys Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said: Narcoberries are bad for effectiveness. That's why. OP, clearly something hit your tames while they where KO'd. When it's happened to me, I was standing with it, nothing hit it and most of my starve tames are done without even using narcotics, only a few ever need them. Never use narcoberries and I always kibble tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthaNyan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said: Narcoberries are bad for effectiveness. That's why. Narcoberries/Narcos/Toxin do not affect TE in any way or form when force-fed from dino's inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaralDoBruxo Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Were you using Dododex to predict tamed levels? I've begun to notice some discrepancies between a correctly configured Dododex and Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Valys said: When it's happened to me, I was standing with it, nothing hit it and most of my starve tames are done without even using narcotics, only a few ever need them. Never use narcoberries and I always kibble tame. That is very strange then. Have you been able to reproduce the bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDynamicMan Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 hours ago, DarthaNyan said: Narcoberries/Narcos/Toxin do not affect TE in any way or form when force-fed from dino's inventory. As far as I am aware narcoberries did. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbrat Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 6 hours ago, MrDynamicMan said: Narcoberries are bad for effectiveness. That's why. OP, clearly something hit your tames while they where KO'd. If you completely read my post, I used both narco berries and narcotics and had the same thing happen.. :-) Nothing came around them while knocked out.. I stood over each of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoredgost Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 narco berries or narcotics neither drop effectiveness the only diff how much torpor they give per bite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milsurp Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 hours ago, MrDynamicMan said: Narcoberries are bad for effectiveness. That's why. OP, clearly something hit your tames while they where KO'd. I was clearly with them in shelters I built - no hits from anything that I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milsurp Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 hours ago, XaralDoBruxo said: Were you using Dododex to predict tamed levels? I've begun to notice some discrepancies between a correctly configured Dododex and Ark I was not. I used a different calc'er, but the formula is easy - 1/2 levels at 100%, minus 1 cause you only get 99.x percent. So I should have seen 69 levels on the argent, 59 on the ptera (and with the flyer nerf, that really matters. He's useless now.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilNastyGurl Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 14 hours ago, DarthaNyan said: Narcoberries/Narcos/Toxin do not affect TE in any way or form when force-fed from dino's inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog1986 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Considering we still have quite a few people who believe otherwise, this is a line straight from arks gamepedia website " Narcotics and Narcoberries currently do not affect the Taming Effectiveness. " I have never seen the taming effectiveness affected like that ever from narcs, i've gone well over 100 past the required amount and had no ill effect. That being said, my next question, especially towards the argy tame is, being that speed is set at a locked value, is it possible, when taming creatures, points still go towards the speed value but don't increase it, thereby not increasing the levels? The ptera I cannot explain, willing to believe something hit it at least once, but the argy might be explained by what I said here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valys Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 18 hours ago, MrDynamicMan said: That is very strange then. Have you been able to reproduce the bug? I've not set out to reproduce it, who wants to purposely lose levels on a tame? But it has happened to me at least twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryMan Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Valys said: I've not set out to reproduce it, who wants to purposely lose levels on a tame? But it has happened to me at least twice. Had the same thing happen wth wild rex. Standing guard the entire time and it came out 221 instead of 224 for no apparent reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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