Tiamat Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Golem Petition IMPORTANT!!! Pls visit https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/kited-rock-elementals-smashing-base-pve-ark- which is my online petition. With this we want to get a Petition running to change the mechanics that allows random players to destroy other people bases on PvE Server Thx for your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ilShadow Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Its PvE, they are just bringing the E to you. There are also a million and one ways to keep a golem away from your base, including building 2-3 high stone pillars, wont stop them completely, but if you do it right, will seriously slow them down, until either A. the kiter gets bored or B. you kite it away or C. build a cannon and tame it, that will teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGoodNamesWereTaken Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I wont sign because theres no way to wipe the griefers, trolls or thieves from the server otherwise. If you are not lazy and actaually use metal gates, then you have nothing to worry about. im sure the ppl signing this petition have stone tier/adobe and have been kited to in the past and still are building in stone/adobe. USE METAL GATES, KITING THREAT IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracul Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hah you think youve got problems, try playing on primitive pve, we dont even get to play around with fire arrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevmol Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dracul said: Hah you think youve got problems, try playing on primitive pve, we dont even get to play around with fire arrows. #feelsbadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Why do I have the feeling your story did not happen the way you tell it. P.S. Adapt to it and build with Metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer5188 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I read the petition. I dont understand part of that story. "Kited 2 golems though the walls, and inside the base" (which in your story is fully closed with a roof). So how did the golems get inside? Also, making double walls kinda solves this issue. If they are too far from the inner part where the dinos are, then they cant agro them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Archer5188 said: I read the petition. I dont understand part of that story. "Kited 2 golems though the walls, and inside the base" (which in your story is fully closed with a roof). So how did the golems get inside? Also, making double walls kinda solves this issue. If they are too far from the inner part where the dinos are, then they cant agro them. Apparently you've never seen someone kiting a golem. It has nothing to do with agro distance from the dinos inside. A base and dinos can be destroyed even if all on passive, although in this case some were on neutral. The neutral or passive only matters for wild golems. Honestly, I've never heard of a wild one on its own destroy a base, since they seldom move very far on there own and don't generally spawn near a base. The kiting of a rock golem happened to my base twice. The first time they destroyed 1/2 of the base and killed all of my wyverns in it (about 7). The 2nd time I was in the base and came out and they stopped. They had come close to destroying part of it, even though I had put metal pillars all around the base. This 2nd time I think was someone just being stupid and not actually trying to destroy my base. Both time all my tames were on passive. The golem does not have to agro to any of the tames. It only needs to be agro'd onto the person kiting it. It will continue throwing rocks as long as it is agro'd and if it is throwing them in the direction of a base or a tame, it will eventually destroy it or kill the tame. The attack is very powerful and has a wide AOE. So it can destroy the base and kill things at the same time. After that 2nd time, I added additional metal pillars, metal gates, and some metal foundations around the perimeter. I haven't been kited to since that. After the first time I added a lot of metal pillars, but wasn't sure about what distance from my base was needed, from the 2nd attack, I realized it was not adequate. BTW, there is always 1 or 2 wild rock golems within sight of my base almost all of the time. Never once did they attack randomly on their own, since all my dinos are inside walls where they can't be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Ive seen it happen on SE servers before. All the large bases and there tames destroyed and kill in less than an hours time. Golems are everywhere and able to destroy stone with their stone throw attack with 3 or 4 throws it doesnt matter what aggro it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer5188 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Woodsman said: Ive seen it happen on SE servers before. All the large bases and there tames destroyed and kill in less than an hours time. Golems are everywhere and able to destroy stone with their stone throw attack with 3 or 4 throws it doesnt matter what aggro it Oh ok. Now I understand. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeEmCrusty Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I read the petition and you sound soft homie. Get better at the game. If you played on my server I'd wipe you dawg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletForce Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is just the survival part of the game coming to your base. You really want to live in a bubble free of any danger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, BulletForce said: This is just the survival part of the game coming to your base. You really want to live in a bubble free of any danger? Remember, this is PVE, not PVP. When someone kites a rock elemental to your base and destroys it, this is something it almost never would do on its own, this is a player destroying another player's base, hence, PVP on a PVE server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletForce Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, wildbill said: Remember, this is PVE, not PVP. When someone kites a rock elemental to your base and destroys it, this is something it almost never would do on its own, this is a player destroying another player's base, hence, PVP on a PVE server. Kiting is a legitimate part of PVE. Since its not the player attacking their base but AI it's a legit PVE encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, BulletForce said: Kiting is a legitimate part of PVE. Since its not the player attacking their base but AI it's a legit PVE encounter. Seriously? its like the reverse of saying guns dont kill people its people that kill people AI is just being used as a weapon Its like if I push u off a cliff Im not guilty of murder because its gravity that killed you not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanyelxp5 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Woodsman said: Seriously? its like the reverse of saying guns dont kill people its people that kill people AI is just being used as a weapon Its like if I push u off a cliff Im not guilty of murder because its gravity that killed you not me And even then, technically, inertia killed you, not gravity. Gravity merely pulled you toward the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletForce Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Woodsman said: Seriously? its like the reverse of saying guns dont kill people its people that kill people AI is just being used as a weapon Its like if I push u off a cliff Im not guilty of murder because its gravity that killed you not me According to your logic wild dinos attacking your tames should also be stopped. If someone can kite a Golem to your base, the player that owns the base can also kite it away. It's a two way system. Also who makes their base out of stone anyway? Stone is for beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, vanyelxp5 said: And even then, technically, inertia killed you, not gravity. Gravity merely pulled you toward the ground. technically gravity is the warping of space time Its the action of the other person out of purpose or negligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, BulletForce said: According to your logic wild dinos attacking your tames should also be stopped. If someone can kite a Golem to your base, the player that owns the base can also kite it away. It's a two way system. Also who makes their base out of stone anyway? Stone is for beginners. U notice how its always rock golem or only rock golems are used to kite to peoples bases because no other animals has the same ability to destroy someones base in very little time if some other wild dino attacks ur tames there is a good chance ur tame will end up winning and not being kill but against a rock golems they have no chance thats why griefers use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarell Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Seems like a common problem, but let the metal building begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletForce Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Woodsman said: U notice how its always rock golem or only rock golems are used to kite to peoples bases because no other animals has the same ability to destroy someones base in very little time if some other wild dino attacks ur tames there is a good chance ur tame will end up winning and not being kill but against a rock golems they have no chance thats why griefers use them A Giga would do a lot of damage not only to stone but to dinos. A high level Rex likewise is deadly to dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yea true but u dont see gigas all over the map, they are very rare spawns Rock golems are everywhere im going to estimate at least 100 on a map at one time it doesnt take much time to find one maybe 3 to 5 minutes and lure it somewhere How long would it take to find a giga or high enough rex to kite somewhere? probably more than 1 day of constant searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, BulletForce said: Kiting is a legitimate part of PVE. Since its not the player attacking their base but AI it's a legit PVE encounter. Yes, kiting is a legitimate griefing tool. What this thread is about, is removing the tools griefers use to destroy bases and kill other player's dinos on a PVE server. PVE - Player vs Environment, not PVP - Player vs Player. If you can't get that, please stay on the PVP servers that you usually play on. Nothing legit about PVP on a PVE server. I don't think you will find a single PVE player that would think kiting is PVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortniechan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I would sign a petition that would give doedi's damage on elementals, theyere freeking stone. Why is this not a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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