Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Alpha Tusoteuthis broken OP My Mosa LvL 238 with 20k HP, 300% DMG and Journeyman Saddle (136 Armour) got killed by an Alpha Tusoteuthis LvL 36. The Alpha Tusoteuthis grabs the Mosa so the Mosa in unable to reach/hit it. I tried to attack it while mounted. After realizing this wont work I escaped, regenerated my Mosas HP and tried it again this time I unmounted my Mosa while it was grabbed and attacked the Alpha Tusoteuthis's beak with my Ascendant Crossbow (283% DMG). My mosa got killed after 20 minutes, the Alpha Tusoteuthis wasn't even bleeding ... wat? how to kill it? PS: this Mosa killed 2 Alpha Mosas (LvL 115 and 35) at the same time within 5 minutes loosing only 3k HP ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crows Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Ouch, I wouldn't even attempt to solo an alpha squid. I have enough trouble with normal glitchy squids as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Crows said: Ouch, I wouldn't even attempt to solo an alpha squid. I have enough trouble with normal glitchy squids as it is. My Mosa eats (has eaten) normal Tusoteuthis (up to LvL 150) with no problems, it only takes (took) quite a long time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't dismount and try to attack it with Mosa. That's probably the only way besides having an own high-level Tuso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtmorris Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Apparently plesiosaurs can reach and attack while grabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Jostabeere said: Don't dismount and try to attack it with Mosa. That's probably the only way besides having an own high-level Tuso. does not work, the mosa is too small to reach it while it is grabbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Jtmorris said: Apparently plesiosaurs can reach and attack while grabbed. But is's quite nonsense since the tentacles were literally inside my Mosas mouth ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamonster Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 i kill the alpha with my regular squid it works well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Yamamonster said: i kill the alpha with my regular squid it works well Good to know ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sheldor5 said: does not work, the mosa is too small to reach it while it is grabbed Spawned an Alpha Tuso in my Singleplayer world and killed with a 145 Kibble tamed, almost max level Mosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Jostabeere said: Spawned an Alpha Tuso in my Singleplayer world and killed with a 145 Kibble tamed, almost max level Mosa. Troll another post please. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Sheldor5 said: Troll another post please. Thank you. Don't call me a troll because you're a bad player and cannot kill an Alpha Tuso. Edit: I even made the effort and recorded it. Now tell me again you cannot kill an Alpha Tuso with a Mosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFFKimgy Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Best way is with a squid, even a pathetic low one can kill a low alpha, guess you could use anything else that cant be grabbed by a squid, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtmorris Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Sheldor5 said: But is's quite nonsense since the tentacles were literally inside my Mosas mouth ... I haven't fought an alpha yet. Is there a hitbox on the tentacles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 You could try using a basilosaurus. They have an extreme amount of hp: I tamed a 145 and it ended up at 22500 or so hp after tame with no xp. It is possible to kill an alpha tuso with a mosa, ive done it myself. I think the issue is that half the time it does not properly grab you, dealing no torpor but likely messing up the hitbox. This also happens with normal squids and doesnt let you tame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Wazzamaniac said: You could try using a basilosaurus. They have an extreme amount of hp: I tamed a 145 and it ended up at 22500 or so hp after tame with no xp. It is possible to kill an alpha tuso with a mosa, ive done it myself. I think the issue is that half the time it does not properly grab you, dealing no torpor but likely messing up the hitbox. This also happens with normal squids and doesnt let you tame them. I am pretty sure a Basilosaurus, if not imprinted and mate boosted won't be able to outdamage and outtank mid to high level Alpha Squid. I mean, maybe if you get a real good one, maybe. But the key to killing an Alpha is damage, not health, since when it grabs you, it starts heal itself. And if you don't dish out enough damage to counter its damage done to you and the healing it does to itself, it will outtank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Jostabeere said: I am pretty sure a Basilosaurus, if not imprinted and mate boosted won't be able to outdamage and outtank mid to high level Alpha Squid. I mean, maybe if you get a real good one, maybe. But the key to killing an Alpha is damage, not health, since when it grabs you, it starts heal itself. And if you don't dish out enough damage to counter its damage done to you and the healing it does to itself, it will outtank you. Ah, but the key is this: squids can't grab the basilosaurus. Unless it's different for alphas whih I doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Wazzamaniac said: Ah, but the key is this: squids can't grab the basilosaurus. Unless it's different for alphas whih I doubt. Well. The Alpha still does a lot of damage. And has 30K+ health. A mid-level Alpha Tuso can have 70-80K health. I will try it out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: Well. The Alpha still does a lot of damage. And has 30K+ health. A mid-level Alpha Tuso can have 70-80K health. I will try it out though. What I don't know, however, is if the alpha tuso can be coaxed into leaving the crush depth for the basilosaurus. If it can, you could fight it closer to the surface where you get an extreme amount of regen (we're talking like 50-100 per one or two seconds of regeneration). You could always just fight, surface for a minute, and swim back down again for more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memeOverdose Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 15 hours ago, Jostabeere said: Don't call me a troll because you're a bad player and cannot kill an Alpha Tuso. Edit: I even made the effort and recorded it. Now tell me again you cannot kill an Alpha Tuso with a Mosa. Lmao this is pure gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawsh Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 k some Tuso truths, the tuso unfortunately is still buggy AF, from what we have seen on our official server: if the Tuso is too close to the ground or a rock, so that during the grab it pulls the tamed dino under the map or inside a rock it can bug, sometimes it just never lets go, and basically kills your tame instantly since your tame dies when the tuso dies aswell, even tho it might not look like its taking dmg, OR it can flatout despawn your mount: Grab -> Gone, so when taming or fighting tusos make sure you are always as high up as possible (when taming you should always do that since turtles are poop at swimming up), all i know so far, regarding those rules weve killed a few alphas and tamed 2 decent level tuso ourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Wazzamaniac said: What I don't know, however, is if the alpha tuso can be coaxed into leaving the crush depth for the basilosaurus. If it can, you could fight it closer to the surface where you get an extreme amount of regen (we're talking like 50-100 per one or two seconds of regeneration). You could always just fight, surface for a minute, and swim back down again for more Well. I tried to fight an Alpha Tuso with a Basilosaurus. 40K health and 446% damage. Standard saddle. If you manage to position yourself right, you can avoid a lot of damage. The Tuso still deals heaps of it. The other issue is, as you mentioned, the depth. I tried to, and failed to lure the Tuso to to the ocean surface. So you have to deal with constant damage. I survived an Alpha Tuso lvl 35 with barely any HP. If I had the choice, I'd take the Mosa over Basilo any day and don't see the fat dolphin viable if you play alone. But if you got multiple really high ones, you can kill it. But then, you can get multiple high Mosas and kill it easier. @memeOverdose What do you exactly mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynnd Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just Tame a High LvL Tuso. Its no Problem then... Tamed 3 Already at a Official Server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzamaniac Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jostabeere said: Well. I tried to fight an Alpha Tuso with a Basilosaurus. 40K health and 446% damage. Standard saddle. If you manage to position yourself right, you can avoid a lot of damage. The Tuso still deals heaps of it. The other issue is, as you mentioned, the depth. I tried to, and failed to lure the Tuso to to the ocean surface. So you have to deal with constant damage. I survived an Alpha Tuso lvl 35 with barely any HP. If I had the choice, I'd take the Mosa over Basilo any day and don't see the fat dolphin viable if you play alone. But if you got multiple really high ones, you can kill it. But then, you can get multiple high Mosas and kill it easier. @memeOverdose What do you exactly mean? Hmm... that's a shame... It would also help if higher tier saddles were available for it. I suggedted basilo because unlike the others you can back out and heal whenever you please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldor5 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 15 hours ago, Jtmorris said: I haven't fought an alpha yet. Is there a hitbox on the tentacles? Apparently not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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