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So it's been months since the change was made to 1/3 Anky weight transfers to the quetzal.  That's still a 3x weight advantage quetzals don't need or deserve.

When is this going to be made 100%?  When the servers all get wiped?  That would be good I guess, it will help bring back that pre-quetzal feel to Ark when this game was at it's peak.

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I know. Some people think it's not a big deal but on some servers the alphas doesn't allow people to have quetzals at all just for that reason. They get to still use the weight glitch but yet nobody else can even have a quetz for weight. Very sad

EDIT they did the 1/3 so the alphas wouldn't get too mad about it

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20 minutes ago, Jostabeere said:

Another disguised Alpha rant I see. Do you have secret meetings like Illuminati does? Can I join them? :Jerbfat:

Uh oh another non helpful post by you.

on a helpful note to the op. Yes I completely agree with you OP. Having said that I am pretty sure that is something very low on their priority list.

see jost, that is contributing 

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6 hours ago, Volcano637 said:

I know. Some people think it's not a big deal but on some servers the alphas doesn't allow people to have quetzals at all just for that reason. They get to still use the weight glitch but yet nobody else can even have a quetz for weight. Very sad

EDIT they did the 1/3 so the alphas wouldn't get too mad about it

I dont understand why you would stay on that server then. I would move on. How can you enjoy the game and progress if the alphas wont let you have what you need.

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6 hours ago, Ugodzilla said:

Doesnt matter if 30% or 100% of ankyweight is transfered, as long as you are able to bug it to 0%

And the worst thing about that is, they wont be ever able to fix it. 

I don't understand why you think they won't be able to fix a bug/exploit that allows you to trick the weight to 0%  ?

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1 hour ago, Volcano637 said:

Uh oh another non helpful post by you.

on a helpful note to the op. Yes I completely agree with you OP. Having said that I am pretty sure that is something very low on their priority list.

see jost, that is contributing 

I disagree with you and OP.

Don't you think they should permanently ban people who make topics about Alpha hate or wipes? That was sarcasm. Totally.

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Everything that has been said about Quetzal Mining has been said already in other threads, so I'll avoid beating (and sensually licking) that equus corpse.

I like Quetzal mining because it eliminates all of the garbage involved with mining the unscalable mountains and trying to get a Anky, whose sprint speed is 264, to the nodes you need.

The only way they are going to discourage Quetz mining, is to take away the Quetz completely.

Too late for that. It's part of the game now.

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I'd say instead of OP maybe it's too efficient?  But what alternatives are there. Doing normal weight quetz with 4500 weight fills fast. That just means you have to farm longer. BUT I feel maybe this will be addressed with tek release because who knows how strong that will be, or if we get new building structures? 

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Wish that WildCard actually put these as options, so we don't have to have these changes affect anyone else except for those who WISH to have it happen...

Ptera nerf, giga nerf, Quetz Nerf, Quetz box nerf, e.t.c.... Some of us have no issue with it, and aren't actually posting about it on the forums every day.

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4 hours ago, Igloo said:

Smash, put a sock in it already. I swear some people just wanna see the world burn and Smash is one of em.

Um, no.

2 hours ago, seXikanac said:

How do you use bug?

Becouse Wildcard Studios don't fix bugs. See how many people complains about Allos spawning in bases or how people fall trough foundations or ceilings ;)

You used to be able to go out of render and then come back.  As long as the Anky didn't move it could then just mine until it ran out of slots.  Not sure if they' fixed this yet.  Would be a cinch to fix.  You just need to change when the platform checks to see if there's anything on it. 

2 hours ago, LilNastyGurl said:

Everything that has been said about Quetzal Mining has been said already in other threads, so I'll avoid beating (and sensually licking) that equus corpse.

I like Quetzal mining because it eliminates all of the garbage involved with mining the unscalable mountains and trying to get a Anky, whose sprint speed is 264, to the nodes you need.

The only way they are going to discourage Quetz mining, is to take away the Quetz completely.

Too late for that. It's part of the game now.

There's no reason you can't mine those hard to reach nodes with a quetzal with 100% weight transference.

14 minutes ago, Hauven said:

Is this another PvP thread where some people want a nerf applied on the game but also don't care or realise how it might affect PvE players? :P

Why anyone would even tame a quetzal in PVE astounds me.  It's the number one way to remove the 'E' in PVE.

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42 minutes ago, Smash said:

Why anyone would even tame a quetzal in PVE astounds me.  It's the number one way to remove the 'E' in PVE.

oh sure, no problem, I will just walk up to metal nodes and use my fist and mine metal. and then walk back to my forge. I don't even need the anky. it's the number one way to remove the P in my bladder

 

that being said, as a PvE player, the quetz mining method is is kinda beneficial. I get to get my mining done for the day and it gets to regen quickly to make way for other players. the game is not all grind and grief ya know

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30% or 100%, a large well orgainsed tribe will still be able to gather much, much more metal than other smaller tribes in the same amount of time. The 0% glitch needs to be fixed yes, but boosting it to 100% would only punish smaller tribes, PvE players and and those who do this strange thing called playing a game for fun, whilst not actually effecting the full time dedicated large tribes in any way apart from a niggling annoyance.

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8 hours ago, Jostabeere said:

Another disguised Alpha rant I see. Do you have secret meetings like Illuminati does? Can I join them? :Jerbfat:

 

2 hours ago, CBMPrimate666 said:

I wouldn't say it was OP, it is very helpful to have a better way to get more metal, also it isn't just useful for the Alpha tribes. Any tribe can have a quetz even single player tribes(With enough commitment) 

So I don't see why this would be an issue for anyone as it benefits everyone.

 

1 hour ago, Kraken said:

30% or 100%, a large well orgainsed tribe will still be able to gather much, much more metal than other smaller tribes in the same amount of time. The 0% glitch needs to be fixed yes, but boosting it to 100% would only punish smaller tribes, PvE players and and those who do this strange thing called playing a game for fun, whilst not actually effecting the full time dedicated large tribes in any way apart from a niggling annoyance.

Every thread always seems to come down to people discussing mechanics and then those that don't like the discussion accusing those wanting change of fearing or being jealous of Alphas.  It's simply not the case.  I've tamed and bred countless quetzals and been Alpha for most of my time in this game, I wasn't wiped but the game has become such a snorefest that I've stopped playing it.  The survival or 'E' component of this game is what makes it interesting.  Why do people play it if they just want everything to be easy?  There's countless PVP games out there where there is no farming or building.  If you hate farming and building so much why not just play one of those?

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@Smash 

Do you play on official or dedicated? 

2 hours ago, Smash said:

There's no reason you can't mine those hard to reach nodes with a quetzal with 100% weight transference.

I think all that will accomplish is increase the amount of time spent flying and flying is very boring in this game. When I do a metal run, I don't stop farming because the quetzal is full, I stop when I have how much I need. Just means more cancerous grinding.

Also the quetz platform saddle is level 80 and warrants having a weight perk that sets it apart from a normal saddle. An oft requested feature has been things like carts and saddle bags and wheel barrows and such, which if implemented are essentially the same thing: an engram that grants some extra weight buffs to our dinos.

 

@Kraken @Dam Son @LilNastyGurl are all right. It won't matter if you nerf this. The imbalance between tribe size will remain. So say it goes to 100%, and the quetz is only getting one third the metal, well the tribe 3x bigger than me is still getting my old rate and I'm nerfed to hell. The difference is do only big tribes get to have fun or everyone.

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12 minutes ago, waterKeeper said:

@Smash 

Do you play on official or dedicated? 

Neither.  As I said above.

12 minutes ago, waterKeeper said:

I think all that will accomplish is increase the amount of time spent flying and flying is very boring in this game. When I do a metal run, I don't stop farming because the quetzal is full, I stop when I have how much I need. Just means more cancerous grinding.

Then don't fly.  The game would be far more interesting if tribes went on escorted mining missions with land dinos rather than a quetzal with a protected rider and 400% speed rubbish.  i would hope that they up the weight of land pack animals significantly once they get rid of the platform weight advantage.

Before quetzals you just built a smaller base with less than 10k turrets.  Which made raiding more fun and with less cancerous turtle tanking.

12 minutes ago, waterKeeper said:

Also the quetz platform saddle is level 80 and warrants having a weight perk that sets it apart from a normal saddle. An oft requested feature has been things like carts and saddle bags and wheel barrows and such, which if implemented are essentially the same thing: an engram that grants some extra weight buffs to our dinos.

Building houses on it, placing turrets, and being able to carry multiple dinosaurs isn't enough features?

12 minutes ago, waterKeeper said:

@Kraken @Dam Son @LilNastyGurl are all right. It won't matter if you nerf this. The imbalance between tribe size will remain. So say it goes to 100%, and the quetz is only getting one third the metal, well the tribe 3x bigger than me is still getting my old rate and I'm nerfed to hell. The difference is do only big tribes get to have fun or everyone.

I have never once said that my want for this change was based on a belief that it will narrow the gap between Alphas and the rest of the player base.

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8 hours ago, Morning32 said:

I dont understand why you would stay on that server then. I would move on. How can you enjoy the game and progress if the alphas wont let you have what you need.

Oh believe me I didn't lol I was just letting him know how bad it could be. I left the minute I found out. I am just thankful I found out early and not right when I was going to get a quetzal lol

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