ThesaurusRex Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Seriously. For a dino advertised in its dossier as 'solitary', it's surprisingly comfortable in groups of 3-5...all of which are more than happy to back their buddies up contrary to its description. Not only that, but there's always another group of 3-5 just a couple tens of meters away. The population density of zinos on the map is probably more than the Dodo. What's up with that? Despite probably the same basic temperament AI as gorillas, chalicotheres and bears, they seem to be more aggressive than all 3; probably because of how common they are making encounters. I'd be pretty okay with their deadly personality if it weren't for the fact that tame dinos minding their own business got caught up in their rage. The theriz just needs to bump into one to rip it to shreds, and you never saw it coming. It's usually when you're out on a resource/crafting run that this happens. It would be better if the Therizinosaurus was slightly less common, making it more of a mystical forest giant you don't want to come across unprepared. The rarer it is, though, the more fun it is to encounter. Alternatively it could just not aggro on tamed dinos. I'd prefer the former, though. Honestly, I don't understand its personality in this game. I've always imagined the real-world Therizinosaurus as kind of a gentle giant dinosaurian ground sloth, dragging its bristly, bushy tail across the ground and using its claws to pull trees down or rip bark apart. Its implementation as a seriously moody hellbeasts though does seem to have its fun parts. Just...in moderation. I don't see why these need to be the most common beasts in ARK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, ThesaurusRex said: Seriously. For a dino advertised in its dossier as 'solitary', it's surprisingly comfortable in groups of 3-5...all of which are more than happy to back their buddies up contrary to its description. Not only that, but there's always another group of 3-5 just a couple tens of meters away. The population density of zinos on the map is probably more than the Dodo. What's up with that? Despite probably the same basic temperament AI as gorillas, chalicotheres and bears, they seem to be more aggressive than all 3; probably because of how common they are making encounters. I'd be pretty okay with their deadly personality if it weren't for the fact that tame dinos minding their own business got caught up in their rage. The theriz just needs to bump into one to rip it to shreds, and you never saw it coming. It's usually when you're out on a resource/crafting run that this happens. It would be better if the Therizinosaurus was slightly less common, making it more of a mystical forest giant you don't want to come across unprepared. The rarer it is, though, the more fun it is to encounter. Alternatively it could just not aggro on tamed dinos. I'd prefer the latter, though. Honestly, I don't understand its personality in this game. I've always imagined the real-world Therizinosaurus as kind of a gentle giant dinosaurian ground sloth, dragging its bristly, bushy tail across the ground and using its claws to pull trees down or rip bark apart. Its implementation as a seriously moody hellbeasts though does seem to have its fun parts. Just...in moderation. I don't see why these need to be the most common beasts in ARK. Very thought out and worded nicely! I havent had time to check it yet but will soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshkel Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I meet 3 of them near to red obelisk in same time (not in group, but quite close) they appeared more frequently than trikes (very common in this area). And once I gathered resources and have Rex followed by me on neutral, it stays while I gathering and the Therizinosaurus level 10 (I checked with magnifying glass and thinking is it worth to tame it) walk right to Rex and start bite him. Finally Rex eat the Therizinosaurus and literally I couldn't react, everything happens fast. But Therizinosaurus abnormally aggresive and a lot of them on Sourth that supposed be safe place (the carno is rare visitor there, but not so deadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiDarko Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I agree with the agression-issue. I set up a new base on the most southern mountain because of the metal nodes and it seems, that there are more and more Therizinos spawning - no matter how many I kill. I have to upgrade my fence around the base to metal soon, because they destroy even stone and aggro every once in a while on one of my creatures. Good part about my base location: I find so many that I tamed and bred enough to have level 272 offsprings right now. Even with the primitive saddle I took out a lvl 70 Alpha Rex and a lvl 140 Alpha Carno without any health issues (put 5 veggie cakes on the Therizino, but it only needed 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffeleisen Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, DomiDarko said: I agree with the agression-issue. I set up a new base on the most southern mountain because of the metal nodes and it seems, that there are more and more Therizinos spawning - no matter how many I kill. I have to upgrade my fence around the base to metal soon, because they destroy even stone and aggro every once in a while on one of my creatures. Good part about my base location: I find so many that I tamed and bred enough to have level 272 offsprings right now. Even with the primitive saddle I took out a lvl 70 Alpha Rex and a lvl 140 Alpha Carno without any health issues (put 5 veggie cakes on the Therizino, but it only needed 2). I'm looking for them, currently on the Center and they are very rare. But I have another base on the Island. Could you give me the coordinates of your base please? I would really like to finde some for breeding purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionwinterfire Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Waffeleisen said: I'm looking for them, currently on the Center and they are very rare. But I have another base on the Island. Could you give me the coordinates of your base please? I would really like to finde some for breeding purposes I see plenty on the center in the eastern half of South jungle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephir1449 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I play on Xbox, which Therinzos are not out on. It seems from their base damage and health that these things should not be quite so common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilShadow Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Zephir1449 said: I play on Xbox, which Therinzos are not out on. It seems from their base damage and health that these things should not be quite so common. Yes they are. We caught and/or killed 10 this morning at 7am EST. So yeah they are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffyPony Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I think it would be neat to change their aggression so that they only preemptively attack creatures that they may perceive as threats (Rex, Spino, etc). Smaller creatures and herbivores get left alone as long as they don't physically bump into the Theri, or just left alone altogether unless they damage the Theri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mleii Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, ilShadow said: Yes they are. We caught and/or killed 10 this morning at 7am EST. So yeah they are out. LOL Yeah definitely out, a fellow person on Trop Island North on the center was toasted along with his carnos by a 150 level one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilShadow Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, mleii said: LOL Yeah definitely out, a fellow person on Trop Island North on the center was toasted along with his carnos by a 150 level one. Ouch. they are billed as able to go toe to toe with a Rex, so there is that. Highly unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mleii Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, ilShadow said: Ouch. they are billed as able to go toe to toe with a Rex, so there is that. Highly unfortunate. I know, I was like how did that happen, then I looked up their base damage and knowing his carnos I knew why things went bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostabeere Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 The thing that bugs me is that it seems they can attack the rider on a small dino. I fought a Therizino on my own and this damn thing nearly killed me while I mounted my Theri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilShadow Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, mleii said: I know, I was like how did that happen, then I looked up their base damage and knowing his carnos I knew why things went bad for him. Herbivore monsters. Just wait till the kentos are out, they are going to wreck shop too i am betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mleii Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 About the only pain in having them would be getting health back, at least in comparison to a meat eater. Regardless this is on my list of to tame now on the Xbox. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1nk Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, PuffyPony said: I think it would be neat to change their aggression so that they only preemptively attack creatures that they may perceive as threats (Rex, Spino, etc). Smaller creatures and herbivores get left alone as long as they don't physically bump into the Theri, or just left alone altogether unless they damage the Theri This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ymhotep Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 The aggression is weird becouse it ignores most dinos but sees humans as a threat... But the real problem are its numbers, like was already written here. There are allways 5-10 around my base in the Center.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 7 hours ago, DomiDarko said: I agree with the agression-issue. I set up a new base on the most southern mountain because of the metal nodes and it seems, that there are more and more Therizinos spawning - no matter how many I kill. I have to upgrade my fence around the base to metal soon, because they destroy even stone and aggro every once in a while on one of my creatures. Good part about my base location: I find so many that I tamed and bred enough to have level 272 offsprings right now. Even with the primitive saddle I took out a lvl 70 Alpha Rex and a lvl 140 Alpha Carno without any health issues (put 5 veggie cakes on the Therizino, but it only needed 2). Are you saying you can tame the Therizino with the veggie cake? I don't see any information on this in the wiki or any taming calculators. I'd sure like one of these, but the amount of time it takes to tame is discouraging me. Also the kibble I think is very hard to come by. I suspect you are talking about healing them after they kill something. But how do you find the time to tame these things? A level 150 takes around 10 hours and like 3000 narcotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilShadow Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, wildbill said: Are you saying you can tame the Therizino with the veggie cake? I don't see any information on this in the wiki or any taming calculators. I'd sure like one of these, but the amount of time it takes to tame is discouraging me. Also the kibble I think is very hard to come by. I suspect you are talking about healing them after they kill something. But how do you find the time to tame these things? A level 150 takes around 10 hours and like 3000 narcotics. No he healed it with veggie cake after using it to beat up some predators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ilShadow said: No he healed it with veggie cake after using it to beat up some predators. Ah, thanks. No I just got to get one I have a base near the red oby on the Island. The other day there was a therizino right outside the gate. The thing that worries me the most about taming one of these, is the fast torpor drop that they have. I can just see being 6 hours into a tame and miss feeding it more narcotics or narco berries and then have it wake up on you and have to start all over again. Wish is was like the giga with such high torpor, you can just feed it a bunch of narcotics and then walk away from it. I guess this is meant to be kind of like taming a beaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLADONOS Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, wildbill said: Wish is was like the giga with such high torpar, you can just feed it a bunch of narcotics and then walk away from it. I guess this is meant to be kind of like taming a beaver. Yea i agree, and i wish taming the diplo was easier. I mean why can't it be like the onyc where it just stands there and lets you feed it? /Sarcasm Have you ever actually tamed a giga? It loses its torpar in 2 minutes even alt tabbing real quick is a sure way to waste 100s of tranq darts and an hour of chasing the raptorer around let alone walk away(LoL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtBurt Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, GLADONOS said: Have you ever actually tamed a giga? It loses its torpar in 2 minutes even alt tabbing real quick is a sure way to waste 100s of tranq darts and an hour of chasing the raptorer around let alone walk away(LoL) What he's saying is that once you let the torpor of the giga drop low you can give it all the narcs it needs to tame in one go. The fast rate that it drops means it takes ages to consume the hundreds/thousands of narcs you spam into it. Giga is by far one of the easiest tames after it has been knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, GLADONOS said: Yea i agree, and i wish taming the diplo was easier. I mean why can't it be like the onyc where it just stands there and lets you feed it? /Sarcasm Have you ever actually tamed a giga? It loses its torpar in 2 minutes even alt tabbing real quick is a sure way to waste 100s of tranq darts and an hour of chasing the raptorer around let alone walk away(LoL) Well, no, never tamed a giga, been killed by them plenty of times though I've watched videos though. If you are doing it right, you wait for the torpor to get to almost 0, then you start remote feeding either narcotics or narco berries. You do this until you have feed enough for it to reach maximum torpor. This takes so long then by the time it does, it is done taming (assuming you use kibble). So that is what I was talking about. Not sure how you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekasaurus Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I just can't wait 'till the devs fix up the creature populations to make them more realistic. I really wanna see certain creatures only appearing in certain biomes (meaning no Rex in the snow biome). The density of the Theri population is pretty wacky, but so is the Pteranodon and the Raptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThesaurusRex Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 At first I thought its high density was just for the first couple of updates for testing and/or showoff purposes, because they seem to have done this for a couple dinos. For now, it looks like they are continuing to stick around as usual. I hope it isn't the intended final decision for its implementation... 19 hours ago, Waffeleisen said: I'm looking for them, currently on the Center and they are very rare. But I have another base on the Island. Could you give me the coordinates of your base please? I would really like to finde some for breeding purposes Southern jungles and South Tropical Island, they should be everywhere. 16 hours ago, PuffyPony said: I think it would be neat to change their aggression so that they only preemptively attack creatures that they may perceive as threats (Rex, Spino, etc). Smaller creatures and herbivores get left alone as long as they don't physically bump into the Theri, or just left alone altogether unless they damage the Theri This sounds like a great idea. 15 hours ago, mleii said: About the only pain in having them would be getting health back, at least in comparison to a meat eater. Regardless this is on my list of to tame now on the Xbox. LOL Get ready to wait hours. And hours. And hours. And possibly dying a couple times, too. Also, make lots of narcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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