SirDishcloth Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Put your outcomes/discussion about Breeding Phase 3 here. In particular: What do random mutations actually mean? What are family trees and how do they affect breeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Lets see when it is released, nobody knows, you will have to find out yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiDarko Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 4 hours ago, SirDishcloth said: Put your outcomes/discussion about Breeding Phase 3 here. In particular: What do random mutations actually mean? What are family trees and how do they affect breeding? Random mutation affects the stats by inbreeding, both positive and negative. Family trees may help you to not breed relatives. That's what I'm thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanicEmber Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I would love to have a way to see a Dino's original tamed out stats before levelling as well as how many points have been distributed in each stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobboKirk Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 minute ago, CyanicEmber said: I would love to have a way to see a Dino's original tamed out stats before levelling as well as how many points have been distributed in each stat. Now this has been on my wishlist since I first started breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebraskARK Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Critter said: Maybe it means I can breed a Dilo with a monkey and get a mix breed like Hilary Clinton? Nothing would strike fear into your opponent like an army of rabid Hillary Clintons haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiDarko Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, CyanicEmber said: I would love to have a way to see a Dino's original tamed out stats before levelling as well as how many points have been distributed in each stat. That's why I always wrote down the stats of a new tame by hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanicEmber Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 33 minutes ago, DomiDarko said: That's why I always wrote down the stats of a new tame by hand... Unfortunately many of us did not have such foresight... Though I recently tamed an Argie with over 3000 stamina... which I am pretty sure is really good? That particular stay I pretty much memorized because it was the best I had seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrallox Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 You could also take a screenshot of the stats. It's faster and avoids typos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savvygamer Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, CyanicEmber said: Unfortunately many of us did not have such foresight... Though I recently tamed an Argie with over 3000 stamina... which I am pretty sure is really good? That particular stay I pretty much memorized because it was the best I had seen. 3000 stam is 30 points, which after tame isn't that great if your on a difficulty 5 server. It's decent on a difficulty 4. For difficulty 5, 30 points is what a tame should have minimum before tame and should reach 40+ after tame for it to be a good breeding Dino. On my old pvp center server, we had rexes hatching at 300-305 because the parents all had 40-45 points in all 7 seven stats. It wasnt until fifth generation until we finally got it all on one Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdavid42 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I am also looking forward to see how this changes breeding. Will post any noteworthy results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionray Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I don't know we did not get it for Xbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdavid42 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 There is now a "show ancestry" option in the inventory menu. It does not show any ancestors from dinos bred prior to the update. I have an egg that was fertilized prior and will fertilize an egg to today to hatch them side by side and see if they are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedros Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 8 hours ago, DomiDarko said: That's why I always wrote down the stats of a new tame by hand... Yep. I put it into Notepad, and use the wiki calculator to tell me where they leveled their stats. Just the other day, i tamed a Lvl 116 Bronto (unofficial server is still Difficulty 4) with 99%+ Taming Effective, so 173 after tame. Here's how he looks in my Notepad. MD Bronto 42 (116) Health: 13340.1 24 Stamina: 744 21 Oxygen: 525 25 Food: 36000 26 Weight: 2304 22 Melee Damage: 308.1 42* Speed: 100 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalantyr Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I don't have much knowledge of breeding in ARK, but have you guys all tried the "ARK Smart Breeding" software? It basically does all the calculations for you, tells you how many levels have gone into what once you put in pre-tame and post-tame stats. There are a few bugs here and there but I think it's quite good. Sorry if I'm off track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdavid42 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So I bred 9 argies today: 3 were eggs that I had previously fertilized and 6 were bred today. (Reduced cooldown timers on private server) All eggs and creatures bred prior to 252 have no ancestry. Of the 9 birds bred from the same wild pair, one of them had 1 mutation on it's father's side. Curiously, two of them had the exact same stats (one of which was the mutation) and the "mutated" one was 10 levels lower. I thought the mutations would be a penalty for inbreeding. I plan to do a couple of inbred pairs later on to see if this causes more "random mutations". Previously I have read players who thought that inbreeding affected the ability to pass on stats. I'm interested to hear people's experiences with this. Curiously, I had three good stats on the mother (Health, Food, Weight) and three on the father (stamina, O2, melee) and it took me to the 9th pairing to get 4 stats inherited by the baby. Should I keep trying to get more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krick Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 When the baby is born, can you see the mutations right away, or do their first appear much later, when it reaches adulthood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyUncool Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Krick said: When the baby is born, can you see the mutations right away, or do their first appear much later, when it reaches adulthood? You see it right away. I hatched 21 eggs from various species and got 1 mutation; a baby rex with +2 in stamina compared to her dad and she also got a funky coloured spine on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstall Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just wanted to chime in with my limited experience so far: Bred a wolf this morning and all stats were exactly those of the parents except food. Food was about 30 points higher than either of the parents. No inbreeding, both parents were tamed wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriD Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Tip for breeders, once you tame or breed, and you go to check stats, while in inventory simply create a folder for each stat. It won't go away, and its on the dino so always know where to look Plus I like my Inventories organized with spare gear n such, so having folders is a good way to keep what you may need easy access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rancor Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 11/24/2016 at 8:02 AM, DomiDarko said: Random mutation affects the stats by inbreeding, both positive and negative. Family trees may help you to not breed relatives. That's what I'm thinking. From what I'm hearing they didn't add the negatives yet, is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyUncool Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 26/11/2016 at 6:58 PM, Jstall said: Just wanted to chime in with my limited experience so far: Bred a wolf this morning and all stats were exactly those of the parents except food. Food was about 30 points higher than either of the parents. No inbreeding, both parents were tamed wild. Check the ancestors' list and see if it says 1/20 in mutations on either of the parents. If it doesn't, then it's just an "ordinary" increase in the food stat as melee and food are the only two stats where the baby can have more than either parent (except for mutations that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiDarko Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 26.11.2016 at 9:02 PM, Rancor said: From what I'm hearing they didn't add the negatives yet, is that true? If that's true, I have to inbreed the hell out of my Spinos!!! :-O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skellri Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 11/26/2016 at 1:26 PM, CriD said: Tip for breeders, once you tame or breed, and you go to check stats, while in inventory simply create a folder for each stat. It won't go away, and its on the dino so always know where to look Plus I like my Inventories organized with spare gear n such, so having folders is a good way to keep what you may need easy access. @CriD hope you don't mind me asking, but could you provide an example/screenshot of what you mean with creating a folder for each stat?? that seems like a super easy idea compared to what I've been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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