Community Crunch 134: Small Tribes Servers, Upcoming Structure Changes, & More!

What is considered minimum for structures now so we can fix what we have down?

I have same question^

Great so instead of making pillars with ladders that do not affect (and often protect) resource spawns, people will now (have to) build small houses that will block them...

Just now, Eanaya said:

Great so instead of making pillars with ladders that do not affect (and often protect) resource spawns, people will now (have to) build small houses that will block them...

Sounds like it. Or some ridiculous pillar mess that causes more lag and unintended consequences. But I’m hopeful the master race PC crew will not suffer too much from this so the console players can see this change quickly. Our SE server literally has over 10000 pillars covering the blue ob and desert towards green. 

Devs, you seem to be ignoring one very valuable use of pillering:  to protect valuable spawn areas that everyone uses.  When a player builds on a high resource area then everyone loses out.  We are not claiming land, we are trying to protect it.

For the Small Tribe Servers for the Ps4 or all platforms do you have to start from scratch or can you transfer your character and  equipment over. ? 

Grief spamming will become grief paving. This won't solve the problem it will only make it worse. Now it will be harder to even prevent any enemy from paving ur territory because pillar+ladders aren't going to last long enough.

 

I swear you devs are the biggest morons ever. You are just going to make things much worse because everyone will find out what the minimum is and just spam that instead. Also tribes wouldnt find a need to spam so much if you guys actually gave defenders more tools to use.  Spamming is one of the few things that can slow down a raid or give some warning at the very least.

If the pillars go you may need to consider expanding the no build radius between tribes and make more no build zones to ensure there will still be dino spawns. This is main reason most players use the pillar method.

i want know they will how to change the rules?

 

What does this mean for fences, gates, spikes, curved/triangle structures, large enclosed yards with pillars to keep others from building inside fencing....

Say goodbye to all metal, stone, wood, obsidian, ext. Spawns in ark, also this is going to make th e lag issues  even worse, there is nothing that causes more of a DC zone tha n two massive basses right next to each Other, and now there will not be a way to keep morons from building two feet from your front door.

Yeah pretty much every server will be void of territory for meat runs or resources. And good luck trying to get around on any big land dinos because your gonna get stuck on the huts spammed everywhere, if you can even get it out your base with all the newb thatch huts that will be outside our gates. Not that you'd ever want to leave your base for fear of being killed by the Godzilla sized Laggosaur from the trillions of new structures built to replace the pillars.

1 hour ago, Andy95 said:

For the Small Tribe Servers for the Ps4 or all platforms do you have to start from scratch or can you transfer your character and  equipment over. ? 

Small tribes servers will be completely fresh and only have transfers between the other small tribe servers. This goes for PC and consoles. Transfers will however be both ways between the ones in the cluster (allowing transfer in and out).

Thanks for the feedback regarding our structure announcement folks, we appreciate it. Keep it coming. 

1 hour ago, chrissytheblesser said:

Devs, you seem to be ignoring one very valuable use of pillering:  to protect valuable spawn areas that everyone uses.  When a player builds on a high resource area then everyone loses out.  We are not claiming land, we are trying to protect it.

im agree with this... some people dont know(cant use english/never chat) and will build close to Valuable thing... 

we protect resource

I can only see this being a bad thing, people need to be able to protect their land and important resources, if you take this away from us you are just asking for every server to get ruined by trolls and people who do not care that they are stopping everyone else from playing, ie: killing resource spawns, dino spawns, and building so close to each other that the lag constantly crashes your game

What time do the small tribe servers start?

 

In the worst case, it also means that those pillars which protect areas which should be (arguably) unbuildable in the first place are now unmaintainable.  Case and point, I've had to pillar off a great deal of charge nodes on our aberration server to prevent unresponsive tribes from completely enclosing all the easily available charge nodes.  It would be nice if you could at least fix problematic situations like that prior to wiping out those protective structures!

 

(PS @lilpanda on an unrelated note, ping's been great on PVE NA Ab 380 since you took a look at it.  Thanks for all the help!)

My server is at constant tame cap almost every single day, one of the only things keeping the flood of constant new people from keeping us at game cap ALL THE TIME! Is the pillars stopping them from building in the first place. So basicly WC just wants the money for people buying the game without anyone being able to actually play the game. If y'all want noobs to have more places to go maybe you should open new servers or increase the quality of the ones you have so they can actually handle having more people on them instead of crashing all the time

1 minute ago, TyphoidBeaver said:

My server is at constant tame cap almost every single day, one of the only things keeping the flood of constant new people from keeping us at game cap ALL THE TIME! Is the pillars stopping them from building in the first place. So basicly WC just wants the money for people buying the game without anyone being able to actually play the game. If y'all want noobs to have more places to go maybe you should open new servers or increase the quality of the ones you have so they can actually handle having more people on them instead of crashing all the time

I think the point is that WC has determined that the excessive structures via pillaring are causing server lag issues, which none of us are in a great position to confirm/deny.  However, the sentiment's all the same, in that pillaring is a natural response to several other issues which need to be addressed at the same time (building on strategic resources, griefing via structure proximity, overpopulation of sections of map due to spawn zones, etc)

I also have to agree that this will only worsen the problem.  I have Swamp pillared off on my server simply because all the other nearby meat spawn areas are ruined due to bases.  I have at least 4 tribes and myself come and leave gigas in swamp just so that we can get meat.

If you increase the structure requirements, we wind up having to build more to save what we own, therefor ruining the spawns and creating more lag.  If we don't build more, they decay and make it available for someone new or a troll to build on precious resource spawns.  For certain maps such as Ragnarok, we have to do this because we hit server cap constantly and we simply cannot afford to have more people on it.

There are also portions of the map that need that land claimed just so that tribes won't get blocked in or have a neighbor only feet from their door.  I have a huge base, I try to isolate it so that one, people with their own bases don't add on to my own lag, two, so that if needed I can expand a little, and three, so that people don't fly overhead and get hammered with so much stuff loading in from multiple bases that they crash.  Also what does this mean for those with a yard that needs to be spawn blocked so we don't have stuff spawning and eating our dinos?

It's a struggle, I know.  But right where it is, is a delicate balance of being able to claim land while not ruining the spawns and also being able to block the spawns for inside bases.  A balance that shouldn't be disturbed.

Edited June 5, 2018 by Psychowing

Alright guys talking about buildings is terrific and all for you mega tribe fellas but like when do the small tribe servers go live 

 

Pillars are used to protect resource spawns. As many have mentioned. Some of those spawn points include: beaver dams spawn points. Spinosaur spawn points. Metal/obsidian spawns. Giga spawns. Oil nodes. Penguin spawns. (339 has a whole penguin island completely destroyed by a player building). Hidden lake. Smugglers pass. As suggested earlier in a post by another player. I will agree. Expand the no build zones around other players. Create no build zone for these resource spawns. Expand the no build zone around the obliesks. 339 has an issue with a massive build that has green obliesk nearly impassable on foot. And red obliesk and surrounding land is completely pillared and preventing new players from building anywhere near it. Plan to change build zones. Give us that 2 week warning like when you added the new snow zone to island. 

On a side note. Rag maps stay capped with dinos. Its such a large map. Maybe consider something to fix it.

Regards

Aphy

4 minutes ago, Psychowing said:

I also have to agree that this will only worsen the problem.  I have Swamp pillared off on my server simply because all the other nearby meat spawn areas are ruined due to bases.  I have at least 4 tribes and myself come and leave gigas in swamp just so that we can get meat.

If you increase the structure requirements, we wind up having to build more to save what we own, therefor ruining the spawns and creating more lag.  If we don't build more, they decay and make it available for someone new or a troll to build on precious resource spawns.  For certain maps such as Ragnarok, we have to do this because we hit server cap constantly and we simply cannot afford to have more people on it.

There are also portions of the map that need that land claimed just so that tribes won't get blocked in or have a neighbor only feet from their door.  I have a huge base, I try to isolate it so that one, people with their own bases don't add on to my own lag, two, so that if needed I can expand a little, and three, so that people don't fly overhead and get hammered with so much stuff loading in from multiple bases that they crash.  Also what does this mean for those with a yard that needs to be spawn blocked so we don't have stuff spawning and eating our dinos?

It's a struggle, I know.  But right where it is, is a delicate balance of being able to claim land while not ruining the spawns and also being able to block the spawns for inside bases.  A balance that shouldn't be disturbed.

I agree here. I have a large yard and have had to build cubes to keep wild spawns out and excessive boulders and trees out that showed up a year after I enclosed the yard.